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Old 08-15-2006, 01:57 PM   #1
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Possibilities.........

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im gonna call my insurance and get a quote and possibly go to my bank and see about getting a loan.

Discuss......
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Re: Possibilities.........

no..

it is redfire and there are already like 4 on here
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Nice wish I could afford one
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no, i would wait it out and find one that hasn't been pullied
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no, i would wait it out and find one that hasn't been pullied
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I guess I see your reasoning, if a CAI can destroy an engine then god knows what a pulley would do.
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Exactly Good Luck with the bank
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Re: Possibilities.........

Man, if I had the money I'd buy this in a heart beat.

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a ****ing HEART BEAT...

If I had that ****ing car I'd baby it so much.. slap some awsome mods on there and I can be a very happy boy for a very long time. I'd super charge it, vortech claims 390hp and 396 tq so at that point, it'd be like owning a Cobra
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i love those guages
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I like it, just make sure its in good shape before you buy it, it does have a few miles on it.
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looks pretty good, engine is a bit dirty looking that is usually a sign of the owner not caring about the condition of the car, but it could just be the pic. I would find one that has not been messed with much or at least it was done by someone that did it right.
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Man, if I had the money I'd buy this in a heart beat.

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a ****ing HEART BEAT...

If I had that ****ing car I'd baby it so much.. slap some awsome mods on there and I can be a very happy boy for a very long time. I'd super charge it, vortech claims 390hp and 396 tq so at that point, it'd be like owning a Cobra

He already has a GT
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Man, if I had the money I'd buy this in a heart beat.

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a ****ing HEART BEAT...

If I had that ****ing car I'd baby it so much.. slap some awsome mods on there and I can be a very happy boy for a very long time. I'd super charge it, vortech claims 390hp and 396 tq so at that point, it'd be like owning a Cobra
dude, if i get this cobra, thats around the price range id be selling my GT for, and maybe even a ME homie / cali peep discount price. though mine has 85k on it, and is beginning to show its age.

SpecV, aside from the MSD ignition(which i though most modern ignition systems are good enough for 98% of the populus), all those mods are pretty much what most cobra owners do as far as the cheap bolt ons correct?

the only thing that kinda caught my attention was that he had the injectors flushed, which makes me think there was a reason for him thinking the injectors needed to be flushed, or maybe he has an anal mechanic that loves to jew him.

if i got it, id prolly slap on the stock pulley and tune until i grew into the car(which wouldnt take long, its basically a better version of what i have already).

btw this is the cheapest cobra in california i have ever seen. closest is around 28k. KBB was at 27.5k.
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why?

I guess I see your reasoning, if a CAI can destroy an engine then god knows what a pulley would do.
why risk it?
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why risk it?
risk what?

millions other 03/04 guys run them like its going out of style with no problems. besides, its probably the first mod i would have done anyways, and its done already, plus the tune.
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inspect it for the head tick issue (also caused from high speed prolonged runs so ask him some sneakingly way if he does that stuff) vibration 70-80mph~ caused from driveshaft, check rear for leaks (top much tq and a pos irs design), and what nots. Nothing horrendus just stuff to look for.

Most do pulley, cai, exhaust, dyno tune~ billit flow is #1 and usually a cobra owner in the "know" will have their parts so it seems minus those that pullied their cars before they had pulleys out.
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IF the mods are done correctly (mainly the tune) the mildly modded cars shouldnt be too bad of a purchase. Mine had pulley, catback, tune when I bought it. I took it and had tune checked very soon after getting it.
I put 12k miles on it in a year with NO engine problems. Made many many 130mph third gear blasts. Had absolutely NO problems with engine. (Other than idler pulley that blew apart).

My biggest problem with buying one with a small (2. pulley would be no cooling mods. When you crank up the boost, something HAS to be done with the extra heat.
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shouldnt that heat only be an issue at WOT when youre actually using all that bewst?

though since he has the stock pully, id prolly get home and swap it out for the stocker.

btw Ellie is in Craigslist now. Asking 16k Firm, well see how it goes.
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why?

I guess I see your reasoning, if a CAI can destroy an engine then god knows what a pulley would do.
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well heat is an issue more so on the 03/04 cobras that have not has the revised head installed~ and also it has a roots blower which generates more heat and its VERY easy to get into boost.... if I tap the gas for the most part I go from zero to 8 psi.
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true, plus a smaller pulley spins the shaft more, thusly creating more heat.

aside from revised heads, what else has to be done to bring down temps?
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Biggest thing is bigger more efficient heat exchanger and intercooler tank. There is also a mod done on back side of engine to improve coolant flow-supposed to be very tough to get to unless you pull trans-but equally as beneficial when done.

SVTP has several good thread about this mod...quick search should get you some good info.
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ah, thanks for the info snake.

and i just got back from teh bank. $420/mo for 5 years.
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you not going to pay any down, or more than 1k?
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How fast has the dream of Eleanor eluded us all.
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lol

I still dream about buying that Bullitt though
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How fast has the dream of Eleanor eluded us all.
its really become quite a nightmare actually. from strange rear end moans to ****ty charging system to a ****ed up paint job. it looks good, from far away. im hoping whoever looks at it isnt as anal as me, or else im ****ed.

and Spec, its through my bank so i probably wont have to put any down because its direct withdrawl from my checking, though i might put 1000 for ****s and giggles, but that will probably only affect my payment 5-10$ less a month. well know friday after the loan app goes through(gotta get some purchase agreement signed by me and the seller) what my real numbers will be. hell they might even get lower with my credit score of 778 that can possibly bring the APR down, and direct withdrawl option enabled. the above 420/mo was based on 5.59% apr and without direct withdrawl through my checking. also since im buying the car for well under bluebook(car kbb'd at 27,5K), itll be like when i bought the DSM(was worth 12,5k, i got it for 7,5K) the loan process was uber easy and no money needed to be put down there as well.


btw i just returned ellie to stock, aside from the Tri-Ax and UDP which im not gonna uninstall cause theyre a pita. tomorrow or friday i will remove the system and return the stock stereo system to stock(remount the mach rear speaker dohickey under the trunklid, remount amps, etc). cool thing is that system will be a direct swap back into a 03.
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kbb is 27.5k on a hardtop? lol good lord That is a good deal though regardless 22k is lower than I found a 18.5k miles 03 redfire coupe here for. They were asking 23,500 for it. Yours does not have the premium wheels though, not that that matters cheaper for you at least. Dang kbb is high as hell... makes me feel good lol. The bank goes by NADA and loan 80% of that value generally so you are sitting great on the loan amount.

On a side note... there is a black 04 coupe locally that they are asking 30k for and its in meh condition with above average miles... some ****** will pay it...
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yeah i thought it looked like it has the chrome cobras on it from the pics, but i guess its just the normal ones. oh well, no biggie. after the GT is sold and i pay off my paint job debt, ill see about getting rims/tires. plus im selling all the boltons from the gt on the side.

and Spec, gotta remember, its cali, everythings 10-15% more expensive just cause its cali. then again, on average, we get paid 10-15% better than the rest of the nation.
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its a sick cycle of events... pay you more but things cost more so you really only save when you go on vacation lol.
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inspect the car's paint under a UV light or black light for off color area (will be some from factory but...) if its been painted refire is a pita to match.
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lol that would be hilarious, show up with a blacklight.

Guy: "Umm, whats that?
Me: "portable blacklight. just going over the car, you know, standard procedure and all"
Guy: "umm, oooooook"


well the guy has not returned 2 of my phone calls and emails, so hes either dead or sold the car already(which i wouldnt doubt at that price). looks like im SOL once again.
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buy one somewhere else, pay a bit more tax to move it to CA and be done with it lol, fly out and drive it back.
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well i spoke too soon.

after posting, guy called me and said hes still good for today, his email and phone lines to his work were down, which is funny cause he uses the same phone system we do(we use DSL line for internet) and ours was down as well.

so its on.......again.

btw anyone know where i can get a purchase agreement form?
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ok well just got back from meeting the guy, who was in his 40's, and had quite a bit of automotive knowledge. he even knew DSM meant DIamond Star Motors when we were BSin in the parking lot. knew about things like dsmlink, and the ins and outs of playing with mustangs and how parts work and their effects on other things. very knowledgeable and very good with using terminology most tuners stray from.

the Cobra is in pretty dam good condition. he does not have a garage, so it sits outside most the time and just needs a good detailing.

Car was ******** fast. holy mother of god. ive been in 450hp dsm's and they had nothing on the cobra. 2nd gear almost got out from under me. 1st was pretty much useless at wot, had to just barely half it to get moving in a manner other than stationary wheelspin, and that was with nitto 555r's. first time getting on it, i freaked out and thought i was hitting close like redline, when all actuality i was barely pushing it past 3500rpm. it is definately a machine to respect, unlike the GT where you have to try to get sideways and even when youre close to the edge you can still let off the throttle and whip it back. if you **** up with that kind of power, it has the potential to slingshot you into a tree.

his response to me asking "why so cheap" was "eh, not like im strapped, i just paid cash for a 530i and a new jetta for the wifey". only reason hes selling it is cause the wifey doesnt think he can have two badass cars at a time, and he says hes growing out of the loud rough musclecar and craves more quiet refinement of a beamer.

he has all the dyno tune slips for before and after every mod. he has all the maintenance records filled out. 60k maint has been done already. before the 2.93 pulley he had a 3.10(i think) and dyno'd at 430hp/452tq. he hasnt recieved the readout from the shop after the 2.93 pulley tune, but hes guessing 450ish hp/460ish tq. he has a ****load of pulleys too, the 2.93 that on the car now, one in the low 3.10's(i think its a 3.07) and a 3.25 and then the stock one. he has the oversized tensioners that help against belt slip i guess from what he was saying.

bassani exhaust is nice, but it aint no spintechs. even he was like "dam, had i known they were that good sounding, i would have gotten them instead". they were deep and rumbley until 2kish, but after that all you can hear is the blower whine, and a little voice inside your head saying holy god, does anyone really need this kind of power? eh **** it, gimme more

he has a power acoustic 400w amp powering some really good interior speakers, and it makes the mach460 sound like a playskool tape player. the whole bottom of the car has dynomat(he thought it would allieviate the 2,000rpm drone from the bassani's), and it does make the interior alot more quiet in terms of road noise than the GT, but that drone is still there.

first mods would be
shift knob(he has some weird shaped thingie on there)
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Hyperblack FR500's when i get the money saved.


so yeah. 95% sure im buying it. i figure, my GT is 270 a month, this is 420. i got the GT for a 7 year loan cause i couldnt afford more than 300 a month at the resturant, but now i work at a company where i have a full time career, so whats another 150 a month for a car that is more expensive, worth more, and will be paid off quicker?

insurance might be an issue, but im still under my parents, and if worst comes to worst, theyll just say mom drives the cobra and i drive the tbird, sis drives the neon and dadd0 is still on the tahoe. though i doubt it will be over 150 a month for insurance.

now all i gotta do is sell Ellie. prolly gonna do the whole autotrader thing, thats always worked for me in the past to sell things quick.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:20 AM   #35
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Re: Possibilities.........

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ok well just got back from meeting the guy, who was in his 40's, and had quite a bit of automotive knowledge. he even knew DSM meant DIamond Star Motors when we were BSin in the parking lot. knew about things like dsmlink, and the ins and outs of playing with mustangs and how parts work and their effects on other things. very knowledgeable and very good with using terminology most tuners stray from.

the Cobra is in pretty dam good condition. he does not have a garage, so it sits outside most the time and just needs a good detailing.

Car was crap**** fast. holy mother of god. ive been in 450hp dsm's and they had nothing on the cobra. 2nd gear almost got out from under me. 1st was pretty much useless at wot, had to just barely half it to get moving in a manner other than stationary wheelspin, and that was with nitto 555r's. first time getting on it, i freaked out and thought i was hitting close like redline, when all actuality i was barely pushing it past 3500rpm. it is definately a machine to respect, unlike the GT where you have to try to get sideways and even when youre close to the edge you can still let off the throttle and whip it back. if you **** up with that kind of power, it has the potential to slingshot you into a tree.

his response to me asking "why so cheap" was "eh, not like im strapped, i just paid cash for a 530i and a new jetta for the wifey". only reason hes selling it is cause the wifey doesnt think he can have two badass cars at a time, and he says hes growing out of the loud rough musclecar and craves more quiet refinement of a beamer.

he has all the dyno tune slips for before and after every mod. he has all the maintenance records filled out. 60k maint has been done already. before the 2.93 pulley he had a 3.10(i think) and dyno'd at 430hp/452tq. he hasnt recieved the readout from the shop after the 2.93 pulley tune, but hes guessing 450ish hp/460ish tq. he has a crapload of pulleys too, the 2.93 that on the car now, one in the low 3.10's(i think its a 3.07) and a 3.25 and then the stock one. he has the oversized tensioners that help against belt slip i guess from what he was saying.

bassani exhaust is nice, but it aint no spintechs. even he was like "dam, had i known they were that good sounding, i would have gotten them instead". they were deep and rumbley until 2kish, but after that all you can hear is the blower whine, and a little voice inside your head saying holy god, does anyone really need this kind of power? eh **** it, gimme more

he has a power acoustic 400w amp powering some really good interior speakers, and it makes the mach460 sound like a playskool tape player. the whole bottom of the car has dynomat(he thought it would allieviate the 2,000rpm drone from the bassani's), and it does make the interior alot more quiet in terms of road noise than the GT, but that drone is still there.

first mods would be
shift knob(he has some weird shaped thingie on there)
Spintech mufflers
Hyperblack FR500's when i get the money saved.


so yeah. 95% sure im buying it. i figure, my GT is 270 a month, this is 420. i got the GT for a 7 year loan cause i couldnt afford more than 300 a month at the resturant, but now i work at a company where i have a full time career, so whats another 150 a month for a car that is more expensive, worth more, and will be paid off quicker?

insurance might be an issue, but im still under my parents, and if worst comes to worst, theyll just say mom drives the cobra and i drive the tbird, sis drives the neon and dadd0 is still on the tahoe. though i doubt it will be over 150 a month for insurance.

now all i gotta do is sell Ellie. prolly gonna do the whole autotrader thing, thats always worked for me in the past to sell things quick.

. Damn Right. One of these days I'm going to get one.
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