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Old 08-16-2006, 10:56 AM   #1
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New Planets?

Looks like we might start claiming to have 12 planets in our little solar system before too long:

Plan boosts solar system to 12 planets - Space.com - MSNBC.com

What do y'all think? Good idea? Bad?
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Re: New Planets?

retarded. a moon doesn't = a planet
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retarded. a moon doesn't = a planet
If that were the case, then we should be pushing 20 or so with our moon, jupiters moons, and any others that I don't feel like activating brain power to think of.
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whats the strict definition of a planet?
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Re: New Planets?

Not that this helps, but I thought I would be the smart *** for once.

plan·et Audio pronunciation of "planet" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (plnt)
n.

1. A nonluminous celestial body larger than an asteroid or comet, illuminated by light from a star, such as the sun, around which it revolves. In the solar system there are nine known planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
2. One of the seven celestial bodies, Mercury, Venus, the moon, the sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, visible to the naked eye and thought by ancient astronomers to revolve in the heavens about a fixed Earth and among fixed stars.
3. One of the seven revolving astrological celestial bodies that in conjunction with the stars are believed to influence human affairs and personalities.
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whats the strict definition of a planet?
That's what this new thing is trying to define. It defines a planet as a celestial body that's has enough gravity to cause it to be 'round' and orbits a star. So our moon would be a planet, if it didn't orbit the earth.
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That's what this new thing is trying to define. It defines a planet as a celestial body that's has enough gravity to cause it to be 'round' and orbits a star. So our moon would be a planet, if it didn't orbit the earth.
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"A planet is a celestial body that (a) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (b) is in orbit around a star, and is neither a star nor a satellite of a planet."
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Re: New Planets?

cliff notes:

a large mass that has other objects orbiting it = moon
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a large mass that has other objects orbiting it = moon
I thought that was a star? Don't moons orbit objects?
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Re: New Planets?

Moons orbit non-stars.
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Moons orbit non-stars.
Right, but Seph's post says moons are orbited by objects...it is bass akwards
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Re: New Planets?

I really don't care how many "planets" we have. It is interesting that we are finally trying to get a definition of a planet set in stone. I think there should be a size limit. I don't believe that Ceres (which is really an asteroid, just a big one) should be a planet. I don't think Charon should be either since it is a moon of Pluto.

If we were to count moons as planets, than Jupiter alone would give us close to 30, Saturn would give us about that number, Mars has 2, Uranus and Neptune have someting like 4 a piece (but that was a while ago), etc. I think the def should be the gravity issue (enough power to form a spherical object), it must orbit a star and nothing else, and must have a set size limit (to exclude asteroids and random ice balls that make up the Kuiper Belt).

I really think some people are trying to get fame for "finding another planet"
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I don't think Charon should be either since it is a moon of Pluto.
Technically, Pluto is a moon of Charon, too. They kindof orbit each other.
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Re: New Planets?

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Technically, Pluto is a moon of Charon, too. They kindof orbit each other.
Hmm. I'm behind. I need to find time to do some catching up on what all we have discovered.

So they actually determined they are binary? Sweet.
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Re: New Planets?

It seems simple to me. Planets directly orbit stars. Moons directly orbit planets. How is it even debatable? :dunno:
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Re: New Planets?

Pluto and Charon orbit each other. There's a point in space between the two bodies that they orbit. They keep both faces pointed at each other the whole time.
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Pluto and Charon orbit each other. There's a point in space between the two bodies that they orbit. They keep both faces pointed at each other the whole time.
Then they are neither moons nor planets. :dunno:
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They are emo
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lol check their wrists.

and yes I messed up on that last one.

Planets orbit stars, moons orbit planets, the solar system orbits in the galaxy around the nebula, which infact!!!!!!!!! is a blackhole.

Saw it on Nasa and National Geographic channel, it was an awsome bit of information. It looks like a giant star in the middle, only because the blackhole is taking in all the light and gasses from the galaxy.

cool eh?
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Re: New Planets?

There are stars that orbit each other in the way that Pluto and Charon do. Does this make them any less starish?

Just looked up the new moon totals and good Lord I've been out for a while...

Here are the new numbers:

Mercury = 0
Venus = 0
Earth = 1
Mars = 2
Jupiter = 63
Saturn = 56
Uranus = 27
Neptune = 13
Pluto = 3..........?..........WTF!....who is the third one? when did Pluto get an extra moon? I can't find anything on it either....
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Re: New Planets?

There is also a movement to classify the gas planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune) as "failed stars" rather than planets.
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look up stitch theory.
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Yup. 'Cause a stitch in time saves nine. I always knew that saying had a deeper meaning.
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There is also a movement to classify the gas planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune) as "failed stars" rather than planets.
Well, ****. Everything in our solar system is a failed star...well...except the sun. Stars are easy to identify. If you're big enough to start fusing, you're a star. It's a simple question, a baby could answer it. If you were a hot...uhh...nevermind. The lines between planets, asteriods, Kupier belt objects, moons, and everything else is much more blurred. There is no metric. No if your mass is between x and y, you're a planet. If your mass is between y and z, you're an asteriod. If your mass is between j and k and your distance from the sun is f, you're a Kupier belt object. We need a standard system. You can even teach the school kids the original nine planets and then tell them about the new system. You know, in the name of tradition.
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Even the computer geeks are taking notice Photo Galleries > Images: Astronomers see three new planets
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im gonna buy up property on the moon!
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I'm gonna laugh when we keep probing the outer reaches of the solar system looking for more planets and all of a sudden we have some new planet come strolling through between us and Mars and it's like "What's up *****es".
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One day I'm gonna rip out my left nut, throw it into orbit somewhere between Venus and Uranus, and call it a planet. It shall be called "Testus".
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