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Old 03-27-2007, 04:11 PM   #1
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... and you guys wonder why those taxes are going up?
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because the rest of the world is weak.

On top of the many social programs that drain our budget every year. We could go to war with China for 30 years and not kill our budget if we just managed the government like a person trying to make a profit on a business.
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If the US goes to war with China, there won't be much population left anywhere in the world to worry about taxes anyway.
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I'm all for war, but eventually we're going to piss off the wrong country/ies. I hope it's not China with their million man army. If that ever happens, it won't be good.
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If the US goes to war with China, there won't be much population left anywhere in the world to worry about taxes anyway.
Well so much for the point I was trying to get across. The point was if the government managed spending we could afford to protect our borders and interests.
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If the US goes to war with China, there won't be much population left anywhere in the world to worry about taxes anyway.
once the US cuts ties with china they wont have much to fight with anyways.
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i dont think china is too big of a threat. we rely too much on each other and pose too big of a challenge to deal with.

honestly, if we are going to war with china it will be indirectly through other countries similar to the cold war.
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i dont think china is too big of a threat. we rely too much on each other and pose too big of a challenge to deal with.

honestly, if we are going to war with china it will be indirectly through other countries similar to the cold war.
There will definitely be some strategic placements and all that kind of stuff on both sides, but the problem with going to war with China is that unlike any other country that you guys have gone to war with, China's pretty black and white... there's not much grey area with them. If it will serve their purpose and give them some leverage, they'll get it done at all costs. God knows that they have the man-power to get **** done quick - they're not a country that will tip-toe around the tulips like most other countries will.
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because the rest of the world is weak.

On top of the many social programs that drain our budget every year. We could go to war with China for 30 years and not kill our budget if we just managed the government like a person trying to make a profit on a business.
That say it all !!!
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There will definitely be some strategic placements and all that kind of stuff on both sides, but the problem with going to war with China is that unlike any other country that you guys have gone to war with, China's pretty black and white... there's not much grey area with them. If it will serve their purpose and give them some leverage, they'll get it done at all costs. God knows that they have the man-power to get **** done quick - they're not a country that will tip-toe around the tulips like most other countries will.
I disagree. The problem with the war we are in now is that Iraq is not black and white. We can't just look at someone and tell if we want to kill them or not.

China would be an entirely different story. I think if we went to war with a China, it would be a very brutal, very short war. There probably wouldn't be much ground fighting involved at all. We would just bomb the living hell out of them.
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I disagree. The problem with the war we are in now is that Iraq is not black and white. We can't just look at someone and tell if we want to kill them or not.

China would be an entirely different story. I think if we went to war with a China, it would be a very brutal, very short war. There probably wouldn't be much ground fighting involved at all. We would just bomb the living hell out of them.
That's pretty arrogant considering the military tradition they have and that you have no clue about what they actually have in their arsenal.... unlike the States who shows off 85-90% of their arsenal on Discovery Channel each week. The one thing that you know for sure is that they definitely have nukes, but how many and what capacity.... who knows

I don't see it anywhere near that cut and dried.If there's going to be a war to end all wars, that would be the one.
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Yeah, I'm a total ****ing idiot. You're right.
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I never said idiot. I said arrogant. Huge difference.
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You said I don't know this and I don't know that. Still, I didn't say you said I was an idiot. I said I was an idiot.

America does not show 85-90% of it's arsenal on the Discovery Channel every week. America shows 25% of it's 5+ year old, out-dated technology on the Discovery Channel every week.

China has an estimated 450 nuclear warheads. Enough to end the human race as we know it. We have about 5,000 that are currently in a usable state. Doesn't really matter though. The fact is that if either of us used nuclear weapons against the other, it would probably lead to the death of nearly every, if not every, human being currently walking this planet. So that's kind of a moot point.

The reason we would destroy China (IMO) is far superior aerial capabilities combined with a much better missile defense system. That's what it's all about these days. I don't care how big your standing army is. In an all out, black and white modern war (which we really haven't seen a good example of yet BTW), ground fighting is just not going to be the focus.
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Hopefully, they'll do Iran like we should have done Iraq. Nothing but air power. If you need to, maybe a few incursions on blackhawks type missions. I feel good about the possibliity of military action against Iran, because I don't think the administration would risk another military invasion.
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Hopefully, they'll do Iran like we should have done Iraq. Nothing but air power. If you need to, maybe a few incursions on blackhawks type missions. I feel good about the possibliity of military action against Iran, because I don't think the administration would risk another military invasion.
I agree. It won't be another Iraq. Support for Iran's President is really low within his own party/country. Our goal is to just upset the country enough to allow for a revolt and for him to be overthrown.
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