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Old 06-13-2007, 06:12 PM   #1
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How to do an EVO right....

.....yank out that dam 4G63 and toss in an LS1...

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Re: How to do an EVO right....

haha damn... i like how some people are pissed and calling it blasphemy
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Re: How to do an EVO right....

It's ****ing great. The only swaps I don't understand is like an LS1 in a mustang. Here you have basically the same platform both V8 and RWD. Now, this is ****ing cool. I still want to see a roots blown LS1 in a Civic hatchback or a Mazda MX-3.
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Re: How to do an EVO right....

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Re: How to do an EVO right....

poor evo. it couldve been so much, now its just another fad.

i could see a LS1-RX7. youre taking a ****ty rotary out of a light and nimble platform and sticking a light motor good motor thats reliable in it, maintaining its weight ratio and driveline configuration.

i cant see taking a car thats AWD, making it RWD, taking out a motor with more capabilities for a motor with less capabilities stock for stock, and totally ruining the whole reason a Evo is a Evo. now its just a crappy looking camaro, before it was a crappy looking AWD vehicle proven in WRC. now its just some dorifto's wet dream.

shoulve just taken a fwd lancer and done the same, that way theres one more Evo out there for people who want to use it for what it was built for.
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It's ****ing great. The only swaps I don't understand is like an LS1 in a mustang. Here you have basically the same platform both V8 and RWD. Now, this is ****ing cool. I still want to see a roots blown LS1 in a Civic hatchback or a Mazda MX-3.
I can't help you with the Roots Blower part.

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poor evo. it couldve been so much, now its just another fad.

i could see a LS1-RX7. youre taking a ****ty rotary out of a light and nimble platform and sticking a light motor good motor thats reliable in it, maintaining its weight ratio and driveline configuration.

i cant see taking a car thats AWD, making it RWD, taking out a motor with more capabilities for a motor with less capabilities stock for stock, and totally ruining the whole reason a Evo is a Evo. now its just a crappy looking camaro, before it was a crappy looking AWD vehicle proven in WRC. now its just some dorifto's wet dream.

shoulve just taken a fwd lancer and done the same, that way theres one more Evo out there for people who want to use it for what it was built for.

Thomas I'm pretty sure people are pushing 600+ hp or close to it with LS1's on the stock bottom ends without nitrous. :dunno:
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im gonna say im pretty sure theyre not. thats in cobra motor territory, and the cobra motors are forged and 600 is approaching the sweet spot where correct tuning becomes the main issue in motor longevity. 600hp on a non-forged rotating assembly? yeah, im gonna say either no or its not gonna last long.
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poor evo. it couldve been so much, now its just another fad.

i could see a LS1-RX7. youre taking a ****ty rotary out of a light and nimble platform and sticking a light motor good motor thats reliable in it, maintaining its weight ratio and driveline configuration.

i cant see taking a car thats AWD, making it RWD, taking out a motor with more capabilities for a motor with less capabilities stock for stock, and totally ruining the whole reason a Evo is a Evo. now its just a crappy looking camaro, before it was a crappy looking AWD vehicle proven in WRC. now its just some dorifto's wet dream.

shoulve just taken a fwd lancer and done the same, that way theres one more Evo out there for people who want to use it for what it was built for.

You should take a look at the R33 with a twin turbo LS1 on page 4 or 5 then.
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Re: How to do an EVO right....

heres gonna be a interesting combo

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cant wait to see it go LS1 RX7 hunting......
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heres gonna be a interesting combo

[img]http://www.doitbig.org/coltboostin/pics/random****/noncar/2jzTT.jpg[/img]

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cant wait to see it go LS1 RX7 hunting......
So it can get butt hurt by the LS1.
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lol keep telling yourself that..........

its gonna take quite the setup to keep up with this monster, hes looking for round 700whp for starters on the twins to get the project "rolling" and then go single+nitrous later.

he got the motor+harness for 1500$. hes not telling what turbo's they are, everyone is trying to still guess (the first question was "what is this" as he posted that picture, and we all had to figure out it was a RX7 and the pic title gave away its powerplant), so until someone guesses right we wont know what hes running aside from twins for now. 1600cc injectors with twin bosch inline fuel pumps and aem ems (someone already guessed that and he fessed up).
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Sorry but I like an EVO to stay all EVO I imagine it handles like crap now due to the V8 up front.
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Re: How to do an EVO right....

i notice the mod list for the LS1 is severly "generic" and the mod list for the supra is severly "weak". the supra needs to get off the stock fuel system so he can run that turbo how it should. the LS1 needs to really tell what he has, im sure its more than he is telling, which wouldnt suprise me, people do that **** all the time on intraweb videos to make their cars sound better than they are.
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Supra running a good sized turbo at 21 psi. T/A running 13 psi with probably a forged bottom end, maybe some aftermarket H/C, and a upgrade fuel system.

Sorry Thomas but a well built LS motor is an pretty awesome, and they are better than a Modular motors. That includes the motors from Terminators, GT500's, and Ford GT's.
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Supra running a good sized turbo at 21 psi. T/A running 13 psi with probably a forged bottom end, maybe some aftermarket H/C, and a upgrade fuel system.

Sorry Thomas but a well built LS motor is an pretty awesome, and they are better than a Modular motors. That includes the motors from Terminators, GT500's, and Ford GT's.
lol umm ok, i didnt know why you brought those motors into the equation but ok. i guess if you want to compare a built LS1 to a stock termie motor, or any other stock motors out there, id hope it would be better.

youre so quick to jump on the LS1 bandwagon it makes me wonder why you have a mustang.....i mean sure, its a cobra, but from the way you talk, a LS1 is so much better than anything. there are far superior motors out there, the world does not evolve around the LS1.
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lol umm ok, i didnt know why you brought those motors into the equation but ok. i guess if you want to compare a built LS1 to a stock termie motor, or any other stock motors out there, id hope it would be better.

youre so quick to jump on the LS1 bandwagon it makes me wonder why you have a mustang.....i mean sure, its a cobra, but from the way you talk, a LS1 is so much better than anything. there are far superior motors out there, the world does not evolve around the LS1.
The LS motors are very bad *** motors and your bashing on them too much. The way you always talk about SOHC mods it make me wonder why you own one. You should buy a Supra. Why I brought the built Mod motors into the equation is because you overrate them. LS motors are better than Mods because you can make much bigger displacement with them.
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Supra running a good sized turbo at 21 psi. T/A running 13 psi with probably a forged bottom end, maybe some aftermarket H/C, and a upgrade fuel system.

Sorry Thomas but a well built LS motor is an pretty awesome, and they are better than a Modular motors. That includes the motors from Terminators, GT500's, and Ford GT's.
Sad but very VERY VERY true....

Even if you compare a Ford 351W to an LS1(346) with like mods and like flowing heads the LS1 is going to show more power.

If I've said it a million times already, I'll say it again, I wish Ford would have spent their time, money, and research on a pushrod. Look where they are with they're pushrod and look where ford is with the modular. It's so sad.
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lol umm ok, i didnt know why you brought those motors into the equation but ok. i guess if you want to compare a built LS1 to a stock termie motor, or any other stock motors out there, id hope it would be better.

youre so quick to jump on the LS1 bandwagon it makes me wonder why you have a mustang.....i mean sure, its a cobra, but from the way you talk, a LS1 is so much better than anything. there are far superior motors out there, the world does not evolve around the LS1.
It's ok to have a preference for a car but realize that there is FARRRR better thing out there... I'm sure you'd take a termie over your car right? That would make me want to say why don't you go get one. But your cards aren't in the right spot for the time being.

Plus, I like the LS1 a lot as well, and if I were doing Hybrid cars like a 2nd or 3rd gen RX7, I'd use an LS1 because it's cheaper than doing a Ford, but when it comes down to what I would drive everyday and prefer to be my flagship car, you better ****ing believe it's going to have a blue oval on it.
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The LS motors are very bad *** motors and your bashing on them too much. The way you always talk about SOHC mods it make me wonder why you own one. You should buy a Supra. Why I brought the built Mod motors into the equation is because you overrate them. LS motors are better than Mods because you can make much bigger displacement with them.
i own a SOHC Modular because i was stupid, but then again i didnt buy the GT to make it fast(which is why aside from the catless exhaust and spintechs and the tune to account for no rear o2's, its completely stock), i bought it because i needed a decent DD that was comfortable for long trips and i didnt want something crappy (like a econobox), because my original plan (that is now reality) was to get a 1g AWD and build that and have a nice DD that i wouldnt be embarrassed to drive around in while gathering parts for the gsx like i would if say, i had a crx for a dd or the like.

if you really knew me and by my posts youd already know what motor is my favorite, and it aint in a ford. i dont overrate the Termie 4.6 motor, i overrate the entire car in general, IMO for the price and what you get, and what you can do and the aftermarket, its a hell of a deal IMO.
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232 3.8L ftw! </discussion>
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232 3.8L ftw! </discussion>
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They should put one of those in a Evo.
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Here's a video of the car. I think it needs more traction.

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Thats rarely an issue with most Evos.
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It's an issue when you have a V8 with cams/supercharger and rwd in an evo lol
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x2. It didn't even look like they had a belt on that S/C.
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If it's the vid with the belt not on, it's a week or two old already if not older. I'm waiting for a vid WITH the belt on.
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