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Old 07-04-2007, 12:15 PM   #1
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Saw a c6 vette get owned today

I remember reading about the cars but I saw one in action at a light (I just missed a green so had to stop.. these cars were crossing the road right in front of me) they both got on it...

All i could hear was a whistling and a high pitched high-revving-type motor sound (think ferrari..) and the vette was left in the dust

That benz had me drooling, it was a ~07 S 65 AMG, looked up the specs when I got home.. geeze, 604 hp @ 4800 rpm 738 ft-lbs @ 2000 rpm 5000 lb car..

Even with the heft of the car, its no wonder the chebby looked like It was standing still... I think I saw #s saying 11.4 1/4 mile times...

and to think I saw one in south jersey, lmao..
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vettes are slow and overrated.
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I never said that man.. I drive a GM every day, myself

I wasn't talking about the race but more about the $180k car sighting...
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vettes are slow and overrated.
x2... well not really, but having 400 bhp isn't the same as it was a few years ago. Z06's are some bad mofo though, and I think it would be a good race for a stock Z06 against a S65.
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x2... well not really, but having 400 bhp isn't the same as it was a few years ago. Z06's are some bad mofo though, and I think it would be a good race for a stock Z06 against a S65.
Yeah, the fact that they only weigh a tad over 3100 lbs. makes them a lot slower than certain other 390 hp, 3600-3700 lb. cars. Their lack of weight and extremely good aerodynamics makes it hard for them to accelerate.
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Yeah, the fact that they only weigh a tad over 3100 lbs. makes them a lot slower than certain other 390 hp, 3600-3700 lb. cars. Their lack of weight and extremely good aerodynamics makes it hard for them to accelerate.
STFU, my car with just a few boltons is faster than a base model vette or a Foxbody with a 302 without any F/I.
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Their lack of weight and extremely good aerodynamics makes it hard for them to accelerate.
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wouldnt lack of weight and extremely good aerodynamics give them an advantage?
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You apparently missed his sarcasm.
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ah the hangover does that to a person
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That benz had me drooling, it was a ~07 S 65 AMG, looked up the specs when I got home.. geeze, 604 hp @ 4800 rpm 738 ft-lbs @ 2000 rpm 5000 lb car..
I got walked on the interstate by one of those. From about 65-120. He put buslengths on me.
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vettes are slow and overrated.
Compared to a V12 $200,000 S65 AMG your right.
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STFU, my car with just a few boltons is faster than a base model vette or a Foxbody with a 302 without any F/I.
Says the Man in the Big Yellow Hat. That's a pretty broad statement there about the 302's though. I wouldn't be so sure of it Mr. Big Yellow Hat.
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Says the Man in the Big Yellow Hat. That's a pretty broad statement there about the 302's though. I wouldn't be so sure of it Mr. Big Yellow Hat.
yeah especially since a 302 without any FI didnt mean they cant build a motor that runs a 300 shot of nitrous!
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yeah especially since a 302 without any FI didnt mean they cant build a motor that runs a 300 shot of nitrous!
I don't understand isn't Nitrous a form of F/I? But really what is the most streetiable hp you could get from a N/A 302? 400, 450 at the flywheel if your lucky maybe?
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Nitrous is a power adder, but you're not forcing more air into the motor.

I'll race your cobra with my bolt on 302 block motor..
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I don't understand isn't Nitrous a form of F/I?
no, Forced Induction (F/I) means something is forcing air into the motor.
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Nitrous is a power adder, but you're not forcing more air into the motor.

I'll race your cobra with my bolt on 302 block motor..
I would love to race, but we don't really live next to each other. Still if you want to make the trip I'm down to run you.
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no, Forced Induction (F/I) means something is forcing air into the motor.
Oh, well I'm sorry, what I meant was without a poweradder you would be hard pressed to make enough power with a stock displacement 302 in a Foxbody Mustang to be able to out accelerate a 03/04 Cobra with the basic bolt ons. Don't get me wrong you could easily make it outlaunch a Cobra with the stock IRS, but I'm speaking interms of just having the power to outpull one. Believe me I know that a bolton 5.0 Foxbody is a pretty fast car as I've ridden in a few.
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ok well the first time you kind of shot yourself in the foot with a claim like you can take any non f/i 302. maybe if it was "any non power-adder 302 without 10k$ invested into a track only n/a setup" i wouldve agreed.
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ok well the first time you kind of shot yourself in the foot with a claim like you can take any non f/i 302. maybe if it was "any non power-adder 302 without 10k$ invested into a track only n/a setup" i wouldve agreed.
Oh well I think that you are being extremely petty about N2O not being a form of F/I and you probably knew what I was talking about Oh defender of the 03/04 Cobra.
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I can take a 5.0, as long as its a non h.o. and its in my dad's van.
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Why are y'all arguing about NA 302's and blown Cobra 4.6's? If the Cobras in the argument get boost why can't the 302s (or if the 302s have to be NA, why don't we pull the Cobra's blower...)? It's not really a fair comparison.
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+1^ thats exactly what i was thinking...the cobra IS F/I'ed from the factory, so it's not much of a comparison for a N/A 302 to run a F/I 4.6?
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What does a bolt-on 03 Cobra have in common with a 700 hp Supra?

They both run 12s.

I've seen N/A 306s break into the high 10s. Like such: Marc Arnold's Stats

Notice it doesn't weigh 3700 pounds. It would run even faster if it weighed more.
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Oh well I think that you are being extremely petty about N2O not being a form of F/I and you probably knew what I was talking about Oh defender of the 03/04 Cobra.
no im not being petty, im being realistic.

even being the cobra lover i am, if someone is going to make a brash comment like "oh my cobra can take any non-F/I 302" then yeah, you left yourself open, as nitrous is not forced induction, and youd likely lose to alot of nitrous fed 302's.
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We are comparing bolton 302's to Terminators to show that Terminators are better performance cars.

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no im not being petty, im being realistic.

even being the cobra lover i am, if someone is going to make a brash comment like "oh my cobra can take any non-F/I 302" then yeah, you left yourself open, as nitrous is not forced induction, and youd likely lose to alot of nitrous fed 302's.
Look you are spray Nitrogen and Oxygen from a bottle that is compressed to 1000 psi into a motor to force it to make more hp when the outsider air pressure is maybe 14 psi or something like that so yes N2O is a form of F/I. And don't act like you your somebody who going to take on the bully for picking on the lesser car, because your just a punk yourself. Why was an 03/04 Cobra brought up in the first place, to talk **** about it, to be a smart *** to me. That why I started comparing a 302 Foxbody to a 03/04 Cobra so STFU. :fu1:
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We are comparing bolton 302's to Terminators to show that Terminators are better performance cars.



Look you are spray Nitrogen and Oxygen from a bottle that is compressed to 1000 psi into a motor to force it to make more hp when the outsider air pressure is maybe 14 psi or something like that so yes N2O is a form of F/I. And don't act like you your somebody who going to take on the bully for picking on the lesser car, because your just a punk yourself. Why was an 03/04 Cobra brought up in the first place, to talk **** about it, to be a smart *** to me. That why I started comparing a 302 Foxbody to a 03/04 Cobra so STFU. :fu1:
Oh my GOD! Why can't we just drop this? Dude, no offense, but you are waaay too touchy for online forums... Typically Nitrous is not classified as F/I, even tho it can be argued it is. Traditionally, Turbo and S/C are considered F/I... Can we leave this be now?
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Is blowing into the MAF considered F/I? I'm new so I don't know :shrugs:
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We are comparing bolton 302's to Terminators to show that Terminators are better performance cars.
no, youre comparing a vehicle made in 03/04 that came from the factory with a power adder, to a vehicle made between what, 78 and 93 that comes from the factory in n/a trim and is behind the times as far as fuel-injected performance by about 10 years at best.

then you issue a wide statement that your cobra can take any non forced induction 302 and you got owned bad. and now you resort to this:

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Look you are spray Nitrogen and Oxygen from a bottle that is compressed to 1000 psi into a motor to force it to make more hp when the outsider air pressure is maybe 14 psi or something like that so yes N2O is a form of F/I.
last ditch effort? is that the best you can come up with? its really no different concept than running higher octane fuel or meth/alchohol/h20 injection, theres just more of it. N20 is sprayed into the air stream, however it does not add oxygen until the combustion process breaks down the two oxygen molecules from the nitrogen, which IIRC the nitrogen burns off into nothing, but you get the added oxygen into the combustion process which introduces a leaner burning flamefront or explosion or whatever you want to call it. so no, its not forced induction because the benefits are not from forcing air into the motor, the benefits are only there during the actual ignition of the mixture.

forced induction really is adding fake displacement through the addition of airflow introduced into the cylinder during the intake stroke, thus if a say, 302 has 302ci of displacement at normal atmospheric pressure, if you double atmospheric pressure by forcing double the air into the cylinder, you have doubled the displacement of the motor to 604ci.

nitrous is adding a chemical that enhances the ignition of the air/fuel mixture. the fact that nitrous is sprayed into the intake stream at whatever psi is a moot argument because that amount of pressure doesnt see the cylinder and doesnt raise the amount of displacement. lets get this straight, there is no increase in atmospheric pressure inside the cylinder because of the introduction of nitrous.

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And don't act like you your somebody who going to take on the bully for picking on the lesser car, because your just a punk yourself. Why was an 03/04 Cobra brought up in the first place, to talk **** about it, to be a smart *** to me. That why I started comparing a 302 Foxbody to a 03/04 Cobra so STFU. :fu1:
i take on whoever says the dumbest comment first and work my way from there. if it was nate then id go after him, he would tell me how big his eCock was and that would be that. if it was bbunt or bullitt, this would last 10 pages and in the end it would still resemble two monkeys ****ing a coconut and we would still have the same opinions as we started. if it was brent, he would just pm me with "agree or ban.t" so yeah.

you made a bad comparison, left yourself open, and got the truth. Cobras are badass, as i do miss mine, but yeah, theyre not gods gift to the world, because that spots already taken by the LS1.

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farting would then be considered a power adder!
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Haha, that was pretty good... but my... well, you know.
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i take on whoever says the dumbest comment first and work my way from there. if it was nate then id go after him, he would tell me how big his eCock was and that would be that. if it was bbunt or bullitt, this would last 10 pages and in the end it would still resemble two monkeys ****ing a coconut and we would still have the same opinions as we started. if it was brent, he would just pm me with "agree or ban.t" so yeah.

you made a bad comparison, left yourself open, and got the truth. Cobras are badass, as i do miss mine, but yeah, theyre not gods gift to the world, because that spots already taken by the LS1.


Yes, N2O is force iduction. It is sprayed at a high psi into the motor, so me and all the other people I now that know anything about fast cars consider is to a form of F/I.

How in the hell are you going to say that you go after somebody making stupid comments when you make the dumbiest comments on here. And about that LS1 comment you just wrote, please don't take my sayings because I'm the one who is always arguing with you about the LS motors being better than the Mods, and I'm also the one who is always telling you that you think 03/04 Cobra are better than they are and now your trying to flip it on me and your pissing. You were the one a few weeks ago that was saying that you do not respect LS motors because their not built to handle boost and can't handle alot of power stock or something like that, so your being a hypocrite.

My commit wasn't stupid seeing as N2O is F/I. You will not build a N/A 302 Foxbody that will outrun a bolt on 03/04 Cobra and if you are able to it will not be very streetable, maybe a racecar will, but I really wasn't talking about some gutted, torn down car, but I'm sorry that I did not specify that. I'm not talking about being able to go to the track and run a faster 1/8 or 1/4. Sure you can give it a good suspension and some sticky tires, maybe a weight reduction and be able to run some fast times, but with both cars have the same traction the Cobra wins. I might say that you possibly could make a N/A 302 Fox beat a bolt on Terminator in acceleration if you can get the weight down, but you would be doing alot of work to the car.
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Hahaha, you said dumbiest... thats funny... why can't y'all just drop it?
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man yall sure are making my workday go by a lot faster...i am enjoying this soap opera, i must say...

i am curious though as to why you guys are arguing over two engine platforms that are 20+ years apart? I would expect the cobra to be faster as it is a much newer design...but of course any car with any motor can be fast if you have money to put into it...so maybe you shouldn't be arguing over which one is faster but more like which one can get more performance out of a given amount of money? and that would go hands down to the 302 as you can build one of those up for next to nothing...but anyway...

continue with the wild bickering as I am enjoying the show while bored at work...woot!!!
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Yes, N2O is force iduction. It is sprayed at a high psi into the motor, so me and all the other people I now that know anything about fast cars consider is to a form of F/I.
then they are ****ing idiots. there is no increase in pressure in the intake tract nor at the cylinder due to the introduction of nitrous, therefore it is NOT forced induction.

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How in the hell are you going to say that you go after somebody making stupid comments when you make the dumbiest comments on here. And about that LS1 comment you just wrote, please don't take my sayings because I'm the one who is always arguing with you about the LS motors being better than the Mods, and I'm also the one who is always telling you that you think 03/04 Cobra are better than they are and now your trying to flip it on me and your pissing. You were the one a few weeks ago that was saying that you do not respect LS motors because their not built to handle boost and can't handle alot of power stock or something like that, so your being a hypocrite.
it was a argument based on "stock for stock" a 2JZ versus a LS1 in terms of how much power each can handle STOCK FOR STOCK. this is the point you completely missed in that conversation.

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My commit wasn't stupid seeing as N2O is F/I. You will not build a N/A 302 Foxbody that will outrun a bolt on 03/04 Cobra and if you are able to it will not be very streetable, maybe a racecar will, but I really wasn't talking about some gutted, torn down car, but I'm sorry that I did not specify that. I'm not talking about being able to go to the track and run a faster 1/8 or 1/4. Sure you can give it a good suspension and some sticky tires, maybe a weight reduction and be able to run some fast times, but with both cars have the same traction the Cobra wins. I might say that you possibly could make a N/A 302 Fox beat a bolt on Terminator in acceleration if you can get the weight down, but you would be doing alot of work to the car.
seeing that nitrous is NOT forced induction, your argument is moot. yes, a purely n/a 302 will need alot of work to take down a cobra in the quarter or on a roll, but seeing your original comment was for "a non-FI 302 versus bolt-on terminator" you left out the fact nitrous is not forced induction, no matter how many ways you try to cut it.
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