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Old 04-21-2012, 08:34 PM   #631
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+1 people usually over look power to weight
Nobody mentioned power to weight until these last few posts. My point was that 311hp was weak for fully built and high boost. Hondas put down more than that on fully built 1.8 liter motors. Of course power to weight is important. So is drivetrain setups, suspension, weight distribution.. What are we trying to argue?
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:46 PM   #632
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Nobody mentioned power to weight until these last few posts. My point was that 311hp was weak for fully built and high boost. Hondas put down more than that on fully built 1.8 liter motors. Of course power to weight is important. So is drivetrain setups, suspension, weight distribution.. What are we trying to argue?
Someone was talking about it I just agreed with them, didn't mean to start an argument about something as simple as that
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:41 PM   #633
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If you want best details up all over future points to awd with Turbo set ups. Just facts
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:12 AM   #635
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My 9 year old caveman mustang doesn't have any problems with these new fancy cars... Stock engine at that. Drove a 12 5.0 today and wasn't impressed.
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My 9 year old caveman mustang doesn't have any problems with these new fancy cars... Stock engine at that. Drove a 12 5.0 today and wasn't impressed.
C'mon now, can't compare a stock car to a fully modded forced induction vehicle.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:14 AM   #637
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My 9 year old caveman mustang doesn't have any problems with these new fancy cars... Stock engine at that. Drove a 12 5.0 today and wasn't impressed.
And the new FBW system makes them feel slow too......it adjusts to your driving style and also a tune will fix that as well
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:55 AM   #638
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My 9 year old caveman mustang doesn't have any problems with these new fancy cars... Stock engine at that. Drove a 12 5.0 today and wasn't impressed.
Cool story, bro. Was there a point to it other than to try and start a flame-war?
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:08 AM   #639
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My 9 year old caveman mustang doesn't have any problems with these new fancy cars... Stock engine at that. Drove a 12 5.0 today and wasn't impressed.
If you're 9 yr old mustang gt is stock it won't hang with a new 5.0.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:19 AM   #640
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If you're 9 yr old mustang gt is stock it won't hang with a new 5.0.
Who said anything about 'GT' lol
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Who said anything about 'GT' lol
A cobra won't wax a new 5.0 like so many think either. They're about tit for tat. And the 5.0 is naturally aspirated.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:44 AM   #642
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A 5.0 will destroy a stick 03-04 cobra atleast mine did to my friends that being said he got a pully,tune,intake,exhaust and he was faster
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:33 AM   #644
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A 10 year old cobra and a brand new 5.0.....cobra around 10k... 5.0 around 30k I don't think that's bad that they will keep up being way less in money and technology
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #645
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A 10 year old cobra and a brand new 5.0.....cobra around 10k... 5.0 around 30k I don't think that's bad that they will keep up being way less in money and technology
Ehhh. If you can find me a Terminator for 10k i'll drive cross country to buy it. A good 03-04 Cobra is around 20k still, and just to stir the pot, runs about what a new 5.0 does STOCK FOR STOCK... Let the battle begin I guess.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:43 AM   #646
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I'm not talking about a termi I can find regular cobra's on mautofied.com for around that being 10+ years old that will keep up with brand new 5.0s
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I'm not talking about a termi I can find regular cobra's on mautofied.com for around that being 10+ years old that will keep up with brand new 5.0s
Really?? A regular cobra that can keep up with a new 5.0??? Lol. Hmmm. If an 03-04 cobra can barley keep up with a 5.0. I highly doubt an n/a cobra will keep up with it.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:46 AM   #648
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The terminator wasn't anything special front the factory even when it came out, now you put a little but of money into a cobra and that's where they get there reputation from and why just about everybody wants one
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Really?? A regular cobra that can keep up with a new 5.0??? Lol. Hmmm.
I agree here. Without a few grand in mods, a pre-03 Cobra has nothing for a Coyote. We're talking 300HP on an IRS vs. 400 on a log axle. I'd love an older Cobra, but unless you slap a blower on it or buy a Terminator, Coyote is king.

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The terminator wasn't anything special front the factory even when it came out, now you put a little but of money into a cobra and that's where they get there reputation from and why just about everybody wants one
Terminators are 12.9 cars from the factory.. Pretty much right there with Coyotes. I'm factoring in that you "destroyed" one that had a tune and full bolt-ons. Doesn't compute.
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No no when he added mods I wasn't as fast, when the car was 100% for stock the 5.0 is faster
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I found a regular cobra for under 15,000 pushing 450+ horsepower more power and lighter than a new 5.0
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:52 AM   #652
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The terminator wasn't anything special front the factory even when it came out, now you put a little but of money into a cobra and that's where they get there reputation from and why just about everybody wants one
Well it beat the zo6 in the 1/4 mile so yeah i think it was special and had a six speed back then
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Well it beat the zo6 in the 1/4 mile so yeah i think it was special and had a six speed back then
Have you driven and or gone for a ride in a stock one?
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Have you driven and or gone for a ride in a stock one?
I've never driven one. Been in one though and it put me on my ***. Anyway.. they got the name terminator for a reason.
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Ya they did but this thread isn't about the terminator
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Have you driven and or gone for a ride in a stock one?
I have before and after pulley, tune headers. They're impressive, even stock.. To run the same in the 1/4 on an IRS that your car does on a solid axle is a clear indicator that it isn't a joke.

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Ya they did but this thread isn't about the terminator
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A 5.0 will destroy a stick 03-04 cobra atleast mine did to my friends that being said he got a pully,tune,intake,exhaust and he was faster
I'm only trying to state that the high technology of 03 compares to the standard stuff of today.
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Have you driven and or gone for a ride in a stock one?
No im 16 i went buy the car and driver times
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Well it beat the zo6 in the 1/4 mile so yeah i think it was special and had a six speed back then
Oh really?

And a stock termi is no match for a stock 5.0 at the track. Best seen out a stock termi is 12.7 and 5.0 is 12.2.

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I found a regular cobra for under 15,000 pushing 450+ horsepower more power and lighter than a new 5.0
So you want to compare a modded car to an unmodded car. And compare prices..do you secretly drive a Honda.
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Y dont u 2 quit arguing and go drive ur Mustangs?
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Well yea a 5.0 will beat a over 10 year old cobra that doesn't take a very smart person to do that I'm just saying for half the price I can find a cobra that will beat a new 5.0 I can't stand people that think just because they have the best new stuff that there better than other people
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Let's say u got 30k. I'm sure the guy that chooses to buy an older cobra and build it would beat the guy that buys the 30k $ car. But to each his own. I wouldn't mind driving either. I love the new 5.0s
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My Cobra II would dust all of your silly little new age plastic toy cars! Yeah I beat the britches off a slant 6 Firechicken this one time! The look on his face!
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:31 PM   #665
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Point is not everyone has 30k for a new car comparing stock 03 cobra to a 2013 5.0 is pointless there is a 10 year difference yea the 5.0 will beat it stock for stock but with some mods on a cobra it will run with it. If people are worried about times that much by a drag car!
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