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Old 04-09-2010, 05:30 AM   #1
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Why the enforced stereotypes of seniors driving big luxury cars?...?

I'm 71 1/2, and a proud owner of Ford products for over 26 years...the last two times I tried to buy a Ford vehicle at our local dealer, I was pressured to buy a Lincoln instead(the stupid sales manager just wouldn't take "NO" for an answer, and was truly STUPID to the umpteenth degree!)...the manager insisted I buy a Lincoln to "cement" my social status with my fellow seniors, as well as mainly to appease the advertising agency handling their account...

Why are the advertising agencies trying to reinforce this stupid(and socially correct) stereotype on us seniors?...

Thanks from Pauline(proud owner of an '84 Mustang LX, '93 Escort LX wagon, '98 Ranger XLT, and currently a '07 Escape XLT!)...
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:15 AM   #2
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No idea... I drive a stick shift Nissan Frontier Pickup.... cant get it away from me.... dont want to drive anything else. I'm right at retirement as far as age. Hope that helps.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:07 AM   #3
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...cement your social status with your fellow seniors.... And unload a guzzler in the process. Will tell ya one thing though, in defense of Lincolns. You must be in great shape with few hitches. A car as low to the ground as a Ford Escape hurts my hip joints getting out of. And on a long trip, you can arrive unbent in a Lincoln, if you've got hitches like me.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:53 AM   #4
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Being 71, you've been around long enough to know that stereotypes don't just pop out of thin air. They come about through repeated observations of a particular behavior. In your situation.....old folks driving giant, cushy, land yachts. Go drive by a lot during early bird hour and tell me what you see. Lincolns, big old Cadillacs and Buicks. One set of my grandparents had a huuuuuge Chevy Caprice, the others had a Buick Park Avenue (with sofa seat in the front)

You're simply going against the norm.
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Old 04-09-2010, 08:44 AM   #5
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obnoxious,isnt it? i drive a jeep.and,my husband and i have scooters for zipping the 2 miles to work,if we dont feel like walking or bicycling.wow,that car salesman was so out of touch-unbelievable !!!!!!ps-former vehicles include-2 saab '96's,and a bmw.i like the current,jeep best.its "zippy",its "Me",plus,i go camping a lot,so its useful.i'll bet in that car dealers world,no one over 45-55 camps,either.....
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:12 AM   #6
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My my, you seem to have your tail in a twist. I just bought a new car myself, I am 63 and no one tried to pressure me. For one thing, after they know me for a few minutes they keep quiet. When people try to put pressure on me I get really stubborn and will just stare at them until they become quiet and then they let me talk and if I find what I am looking for then it is a done deal. I am not mean, I just don't put up with a bunch of pushy people. Poppy
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:28 AM   #7
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guilty as charged..but being handicapped, I can easily get in and out of it without help..this is my 2nd Lincoln and once you drive/ride in one you don't want any thing else..will probably buy a small van next time as Town Cars are not made any more..and I need something big enough to get my scooter in and out..
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:26 AM   #8
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I love big cars!

I had a Lincoln. It was lovely to ride in. At first my wife wasn't so sure. Then she rode in it for a week and loved it.

Big cars rule. So comfortable to sit back and to enjoy the ride. Lovely.
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:24 AM   #9
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You tell 'em, Pauline!...

My elderly neighbor drives an Escape like you(an '06), and proud of it!...sure her "senoir" friends are angry at her for "going against the grain", but they can go to you-know where for HER choice of car!

Keep up the fight, Pauline!
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:07 PM   #10
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I drive a really nice mid-size truck, Nissan Frontier. It is a great vehicle. In southern Illinois many seniors drive nice full size pick up trucks. Most are better looking and better driving than the typical oldster-mobile.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:17 PM   #11
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Just your typical salesperson using any means to make commission, I have a Thunderbird, Jaguar, and motorcycle of my own choosing and am a ordinary guy 68 years old
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:40 PM   #12
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I buy used cars (usually chebbies), so don't get much hastle over status.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:26 PM   #13
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Don't know........I drive a pick up truck!


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Old 04-09-2010, 01:31 PM   #14
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We weren't pushed by our dealer at all. I told him what I wanted, the Ford Fusion and that is what I got. I enjoy driving it, because it is comfortable and gets decent gas mileage. We have two Fords, my dad was a Ford man as are my son and my elderly Mother. We have never had any problems whatsoever with the older 1995 Ford Tauras we drive. I am not advertising and hope this letter gets in the forum. You need to be tougher with the people who sell you the cars. Go in and tell THEM what YOU want. They wanted to sell you the larger care because I imagine. Sorry this happened to you. Who says you are going against the norm...some of just love our Fords and that is that!!! (smile) Good Grief! Who cares about a social status at our age....gee! Go back to the dealer and tell them you were high pressured.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:21 PM   #15
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Women of all ages get the same treatment, I was trying to buy a two door, two seater sports car when I hit 48 and the kids left home and the stupid salesmen kept trying to stir me to a wagon ! I finally told one "I work in Marketing, if you ever want to actually make a living never mind be successful you have to work on your listening skills, what is it about "2 seater, 2 door sports model" that you just DONT understand?" I finally bought my car from a friend who was a car salesman and knew me and didnt even suggest a wagon, wouldnt think of it ! Most sales people, and yes, even sales managers have had NO Marketing or Communication education or training, they sell what they do sell using the old "carnival hawker baffle them with fast talk, double talk, aggressive ram it down their throat" sale pitch - When that happens, leave, inform them they have no listening skills, are not respecting you as a customer and go somewhere else.

My all time favourite is when as a woman, the first question they ask is "will your husband be making the final decision?" or when I was much younger "will your father be making the final decision?" and then asking me what colour car I wanted, like the motor doesnt matter, the features, the mileage, and assuming I want an automatic -

When it comes to dinosaurs, car salesmen are at the top of the list, IMO most are men who couldnt succeed at anything else because they are ignorant, as in uneducated, unaware, cant communicate, etc.

Notice I said "most". There are some good ones out there, and they can be very successful, unfortunately however its a niche that attracts ignorant people who go from dealer to dealer, lot to lot. Young men who think talking fast makes them a good salesperson

Next time ask for a female sales person ! Assuming she is a mature adult, and not 20 I find they listen and they are usually to top sales people at the dealership or auto sales lot ! For that reason !

Blame the stereotypes on movies and TV shows, like the stereotypes of Cdns thanks to the idiot Mackenzie brothers, sadly a lot of Americans now think thats what we Cdns are like. I have never met anyone like the MacKenzie brothers except in Northern Idaho, LOL No offense intended
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:59 PM   #16
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Don't let those bozos get to you, Pauline!

Here in Arcadia, CA, I drive a rare Ford Mustang Pink Power Edition(where each 'Stang sold in this "pink-pinstriped edition" benefits the Susan G. Komen Cancer Research Foundation), and in this case I went to SIX different Ford dealers(yes, Don Kott Ford is FINALLY out of business, thank goodness!) before I picked on world-famous Galpin Ford(yippee!) in North Hills, where I got exactly what I wanted, and the salesman was a young guy who had been working for only six months at that time, and he teamed up with the grand-nephew of the dealer's founder to give me the best deal possible--and NO hassle!...Take THAT, Lincoln!

Anyway, the other five dealers refused to sell me what I wanted because the sales managers insisted that I conform to THEIR strict stereotype(even in Temecula, Lake Elsinore AND Riverside, of all places!);I told them off to their angry faces!

Enjoy your "uniqueness", Pauline!...I'm proud of you!
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Old 04-09-2010, 03:03 PM   #17
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Why the enforced stereotypes of seniors driving big luxury cars?...?

I don't think it's a stereotype, just sales pressure. They sell a more expensive car, it makes their employer more money and they earn a bigger commission. And sometimes yes they try to make YOU think in stereotypes. But I do know what you mean about their assuming what you must like because of your age. When I was much younger and went to buy a car, the salesman insisted on showing me cheaper cars, even used ones, because he assumed I had no money because of my age. He actually thought I was a lot younger than I was. He changed his tune when I told him I'd be paying cash. But no matter which vehicle he was showing me, the first thing he did was turn on the radio, tune it to a rock station, and crank it, as if I would be sold on a loud radio.
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Old 04-09-2010, 03:59 PM   #18
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I think that stereotype is something that was invented by car sellers. Last time I was in the market to buy a car someone tried to sell me a car I couldn't see out of (I'm short). He was really pressuring me when I finally said "Look, I'm not going to put my life and others I share the road with in jeopardy just so you can make a commission off of me". My husband grinned proudly and we walked away with the salesperson looking embarrassed.
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