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Old 07-08-2008, 07:21 PM   #1
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Cold War Take 2

U.S.-Czech missile deal raises Russian ire - CNN.com
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great.....here we go again.....we need to get him out of office so **** like this doesn't happen
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Re: Cold War Take 2

Yeah, that's true...a European based missile defense shield is a pretty retarded idea.
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stupid. how is a defense system a threat to Russian security?

if they have no intention of using weapons against the US or any other European countries, they shouldnt have an issue with defensive weaponry.

I say put em in, **** p00tin. whats he gonna do, throw sticks across the border now? Hes just mad cause his country that was once feared as a superpower is looking less and less powerful by the day, now not even the europeans will be afraid of them once a defensive system is installed. They wont be able to resort to threats anymore, since it will hold zero fear factor.

Iran wont be so scary either.
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I say don't put them in. Since when did it become our job to defend Europe? It wasn't even our job the first time. If Iran wants to shoot nuclear weapons at France let them. Iran is to Germany what a drop of water is to the ocean.
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well think about it from their side, what would you think if they put issles in cuba or canada... well i mean I know we wont use them on them and all that... just sounds like they are trying to prevent us from doing other future things past this~
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I don't see why they should have a problem with it. It's a missle "defense" system. After seeing this, why shouldn't we put it in? You guys do realize the US has bases all over Europe as well.... It's not just the Europeans we would be protecting.
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Re: Cold War Take 2

^^ Come on now, that's not in line with the new clique that thinks being spineless is cool.

And yeah, I was quite sarcastic with my first reply....
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One reason too, is that Russia is placing anti missile defense in Iran soon so hence Israel doesn't like that. We are bound to protect Israel so maybe that is why we are wanted to put those missile warning systems over there. :dunno:
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well think about it from their side, what would you think if they put issles in cuba or canada... well i mean I know we wont use them on them and all that... just sounds like they are trying to prevent us from doing other future things past this~
if they put defensive systems in cuba or canada thats fine by me. I highly doubt we will need to use offensive missles against russia in the next 500 years, so if they want to waste money they dont have let them.

i think we are just sick of hearing p00tin get all butthurt everytime something doenst go his way and waving the "remember, i still have nukes" flag all around to get attention. this way he can wave that flag all he wants as it holds no value if there is a defensive system that makes such a flag useless. Same with Iran.

however, Iran is different. Methinks when Iran does get a nuke, they will sell it off to the highest bidder, who will smuggle it in with ease to whatever country they want (Israel or America) and detonate it inside.

People who think defensive systems are a bad idea need to play more RTS games. Best offense is a good defense.
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Russia doesn't want them in their area because it does affect their National Security. It strengthens former Russian territories and it strengthens the majority of Europe against any future retaliation from Russia should have to defend their country from an attack by any of the other European, Middle East countries.

On top of that it's not our job to spend billions to protect Europe.
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On top of that it's not our job to spend billions to protect Europe.
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After seeing this, why shouldn't we put it in? You guys do realize the US has bases all over Europe as well.... It's not just the Europeans we would be protecting.
As far as their national security... that sounds like a personal problem. Perhaps Putin should consult Dr. Phil.
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It is a personal problem for them, hence why they are taking it personally. Just like the United States has personal problems, such as our growing national debt due to building up bases over seas and securing other nations. All this while our nation remains vulnerable and our infrastructure is growing old.

So Iran shot a few missiles in the air. None of them can reach the United States. Instead of spending billions defending our bases in other countries, we should save billions if not close to a trillion dollars a year by removing those bases. My tax payer money should be used to improve other countries when our country has so much wrong with it.
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My tax payer money should be used to improve other countries when our country has so much wrong with it.
OK, they can use yours to pay for our country and mine to pay for the bases over there.

I'd rather pay for military bases in Europe than some crack head's habit.
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OK, they can use yours to pay for our country and mine to pay for the bases over there.

I'd rather pay for military bases in Europe than some crack head's habit.
As much as it hurts me to agree with you, I must agree 200%.
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OK, they can use yours to pay for our country and mine to pay for the bases over there.

I'd rather pay for military bases in Europe than some crack head's habit.
I'd rather not pay for either. That's why I won't vote for Obama or McCain. One's the crack head and ones the military base
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