So I guess most dealers are moving away from Kelly Blue Book and NADA, and going with Black Book and auction prices for most trade-in values now? Black Book is way below KBB and NADA, and the auction prices? Forget about it. Recently went to trade my wife's 2012 Honda Pilot on a 2015 Pilot, and they offered me 18k for the trade-in. Two different dealers no less. Had the same issue with a car that I traded in back in July. I guess it's getting to the point where if you want ANY value at all, you just have to sell it to someone instead of trading it in.