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Old 09-28-2015, 02:08 PM   #71
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Yeah. My GPU is old, bought it used, but works for what I have.


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Went a little crazy in the end... Just upgrading my processor turned into a new processor and motherboard and then new case since mine sucked and since I now had a new mobo and cpu I put my old setup in another case with a 3TB drive for movies and such which is now my media computer.

Now that I have an old case and all other parts minus another mobo to build a 3rd computer with a 3ghz Athlon 2 and a 500gb drive for my kid... Yeah...

$45 for an ASRock 970 chipset micro atx to replace the 5 year old Gigabyte mobo in my wife's computer that has a 3.4ghz dual core Phenom II and then my kid will get my old case, wife's old mobo, spare 3.0ghz Athlon 2 cpu, 8 gigs of spare RAM.

So that happend and I got sorta carried away. Just sorta. Wife has been wanting a Netflix and movie machine for downstairs and my daughter has been asking for her own computer too so it's all good. And my gaming PC is still waiting on the liquid cooler... Grumble...

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Under water! 140mm unit fit perfectly I was amazed. I will be doing initial fire up when I get home. Please please please please don't let anything be DOA...

Also I was not aware when I bought it but the fans on this cooler are so powerful they each need their own dedicated fan header as they pull .8A per fan lol. CM should not even include a splitter tbth...

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7Lmao every other computer in the house has at least one LED fan because that is what came with the case. This one I bought 4 120mm pwm fans that move 77cfm max, 3 140mm fans that move 85cfm max and then the jetflos in the cooler do some stupid amount like 150+.

The pump has a little LED ring tho... Only issue I have run into is fan headers and dasiy chaining since my pwm fans all come with splitters. The two cooler fans have to each have their own dedicated header or they will not get the juice they need. Right now I have the other 140mm fans on a Molex but I would like to have them all controlled by the mobo. Each header is rated for 1 amp but I don't want to push it but the other fans only do .2 or .25 per fan so chaining 3 or even technically 4 per header is fine but I would not do 4.

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Need more power for the fans but as you get more power you need better fans....
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7Lmao every other computer in the house has at least one LED fan because that is what came with the case. This one I bought 4 120mm pwm fans that move 77cfm max, 3 140mm fans that move 85cfm max and then the jetflos in the cooler do some stupid amount like 150+.

The pump has a little LED ring tho... Only issue I have run into is fan headers and dasiy chaining since my pwm fans all come with splitters. The two cooler fans have to each have their own dedicated header or they will not get the juice they need. Right now I have the other 140mm fans on a Molex but I would like to have them all controlled by the mobo. Each header is rated for 1 amp but I don't want to push it but the other fans only do .2 or .25 per fan so chaining 3 or even technically 4 per header is fine but I would not do 4.

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Here is the fan setup in my X99 system.

Four Delta fans attached to a 240mm radiator (for CPU), each pull 4 Amps, 48 Watts and move 253 cfm @ 7100 RPM... a piece.

My eight Noctua fans on the other hand, use .55 Amps, 6.6 Watts each and move 159 cfm @ 3000 RPM. I have four in push pull on two 120mm dual thickness radiators (one for each GPU) and the others as regular case fans.
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Damn... What motherboard is that? Or do you have it on a fan controller jacked into the PSU?

I also still have not tested this thing... Long *** day today. Going upstairs to plug it in and make sure it posts and all the fans are spinning and the pump working.



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It's alive! So far so good the blue 140mm fans are a touch loud tho I am going to take it apart again to inspect everything but so far so good.

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Does anyone know if the ISO is still available and free on MS's website? I can't check that here at work.


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It should be. I have the pro version isos of 32 and 64 bit if not I can get one to you.

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If you are talking about Windows 10, It is .. I just downloaded it this morning.

Thanks, I upgraded my laptop a few weeks ago, but I didn't do a clean install. It's running fine, but I really want to do a clean install. I originally bought my laptop with 8 installed, then upgraded to 8.1, so I'm sure it's pretty messy lol. I didn't even think to check their website at the time to see if they were allowing ISO downloads. That's awesome!

Biggest thing I notice so far is the boot time is improved over 8.1. I like the start menu now too. I'm sure when I do a clean install, I'll notice some other improvements.


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I'm on the Indianapolis west side. Pretty close to Raceway park.


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Thanks, I upgraded my laptop a few weeks ago, but I didn't do a clean install. It's running fine, but I really want to do a clean install. I originally bought my laptop with 8 installed, then upgraded to 8.1, so I'm sure it's pretty messy lol. I didn't even think to check their website at the time to see if they were allowing ISO downloads. That's awesome!

Biggest thing I notice so far is the boot time is improved over 8.1. I like the start menu now too. I'm sure when I do a clean install, I'll notice some other improvements.


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Just be aware if you go straight from the win10 disc and the key is not saved in the bios it will not activate. This is the case with 3 of my machines. I do a clean win8 activated install, get it on 8.1 and then immediately do the win10 upgrade and choose to keep nothing.

Also make sure it you have older hardware there are win10 drivers for it. I cannot get full use out of my HD4850 on my media PC because there are no Win10 drivers besides a half assed win10 compatability driver. Same with my laptop... Those are both still on 7.

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Just be aware if you go straight from the win10 disc and the key is not saved in the bios it will not activate. This is the case with 3 of my machines. I do a clean win8 activated install, get it on 8.1 and then immediately do the win10 upgrade and choose to keep nothing.

Also make sure it you have older hardware there are win10 drivers for it. I cannot get full use out of my HD4850 on my media PC because there are no Win10 drivers besides a half assed win10 compatability driver. Same with my laptop... Those are both still on 7.

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For the legacy hardware, just force install Win 8.1 drivers.

I am running AMD Catalyst 13.4 Beta on my laptop with a test install of Win 10. I had to do this in order to get crossfire working correctly.

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To do it, first, I had to install the 13.4 Beta drivers, then reboot. Nothing will change, catalyst won't run.

Then after the system reboots, go to device manager then display adapter. Drop it down so you can see your card.

Right click on your card, select update driver software, then "Browse my computer for driver software".

Then select "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer".

On the next window, select "Have Disk..."

Then on window that pops up, click "Browse..."

Then navigate the "Locate File" window to (by default) C:\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.4_Legacy_Beta...\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\

Then select the top INF file as the driver.

The system will then install the driver and your screen will flash several times and/or possibly lock up the system. Wait until it finishes the install or it hard locks (check by hitting caps lock on keyboard, if it lights up then system is still responsive), then reboot the system.

Once the system reboots either from lockup or just rebooting, AMD CCC should be operational and the HDMI and everything else should work just like it did in Win 7/8/8.1.
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For the legacy hardware, just force install Win 8.1 drivers.

I am running AMD Catalyst 13.4 Beta on my laptop with a test install of Win 10. I had to do this in order to get crossfire working correctly.

Proof.


To do it, first, I had to install the 13.4 Beta drivers, then reboot. Nothing will change, catalyst won't run.

Then after the system reboots, go to device manager then display adapter. Drop it down so you can see your card.

Right click on your card, select update driver software, then "Browse my computer for driver software".

Then select "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer".

On the next window, select "Have Disk..."

Then on window that pops up, click "Browse..."

Then navigate the "Locate File" window to (by default) C:\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.4_Legacy_Beta...\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\

Then select the top INF file as the driver.

The system will then install the driver and your screen will flash several times and/or possibly lock up the system. Wait until it finishes the install or it hard locks (check by hitting caps lock on keyboard, if it lights up then system is still responsive), then reboot the system.

Once the system reboots either from lockup or just rebooting, AMD CCC should be operational and the HDMI and everything else should work just like it did in Win 7/8/8.1.
I read about that but the step by step you gave is better than the rambling post I saw lol. I'll give that a shot on the laptop to see if it works and if it does I'll do it with the desktop too. I'm having issues with audio out of the DVI-I port on the HD4850 anyway and I know it works because I used to use it all the time. Might just do a DVI-HDMI and a 3.5 cable till I upgrade my 7850s and swap them into that PC.

Now as far as the one I just built with this FX8350... sweet jesus... I thought the one I had was fast with the Phenom II 6 core at 3.6ghz and the ASRock board. This thing eats that one's lunch and its still at 4.0ghz right now...

Also running mega cool, this case has turned out way better than I could have hoped and everything fit pretty much like a glove. That 140mm water cooler might as well have been built specifically for this case...

I'm going to give it a bit to make sure all the different components are working well and then crank it the hell up. Mainly want to make sure the $36 SSD I have running the OS looks like it'll be good. Its a 60GB Mushkin I'm dedicating solely to the OS and so far it has been flying along.
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So... been looking at graphics cards and still not sure if I want to upgrade the 7850s or not... I really would like to be able to run a heavily visually modified Skyrim ENB which I currently cannot... but also hard to justify that price for a single game when everything else I play runs fine.


I do see the 390s coming into the same price range as the 290X and even the 390X is only $100 more although I know it was mentioned before that the 390x can't really take advantage of it.
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Now we're cooking with Crisco.



Overclocked from 4.0 to 5.0ghz right now running P95 blend for the last few hours. Its actually running right now still... Socket and core temps have not gone above 57C.
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Overclocked from 4.0 to 5.0ghz right now running P95 blend for the last few hours. Its actually running right now still... Socket and core temps have not gone above 57C.
Looks good. Nice cable management.
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Heh... The back is a bit of a mess. Mainly because I used two Molex to pwm adapters which is a LOT of cables.

I am still waiting for thermal tape to come in so I can put 3 50mm fans on the VRM and the NB.

Now I am severely gpu bottlenecked lol

edit: Run of the mill 1050/1250 overclock of my Powercolor HD7850s gets me right under 9k in Firestrike and 11100 in 3DMark11. I could probably get a little more out of them... Makes me sad that a single 290X will blow this score out of the water at stock speeds...
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This will make all of you guys laugh.

I just rescued a friend's old gaming PC (and I do mean old) from being trashed. All that was wrong was that it was old and boot looping, so he cannibalized a few things and let it gather dust for three years. All I was planning on salvaging was the power supply and case, but after a spare hard drive and some time, it works ok.

It is using the following components:
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Plus the hard drive and OS from my old, dead laptop that had an old enough version of catalyst control center to not boot loop due to incompatibility with the ancient cards.

It does alright for itself, runs iRacing on one monitor fine. Will be watching newegg like a hawk though for a new motherboard, ram and processor. Not a bad computer for the grand total of zero dollars and two evenings of my time (I am truly that cheap).
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Eh... That thing is pretty... Bad lol. The mobo/cpu setup I'm running is under $300 on Newegg right now. Not going to do much better... Ram is cheap too and you don't need more than 8 gig for gaming. Your big expense will be the GPU and all the additional **** like a good case, PSU to power everything, good fans, cooler etc...

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You can also get an ASRock 970M Pro3 micro atx for $50 and then throw a FX8320 or 8350(what I have) on it for like $215 total. Or... Get that mobo and find a NOS 3.4ghz Callisto Phenom II for $50 for $100 total. Most of those Callisto dual cores unlock to quad and will overclock to 4.0ghz no problem. If I was on a mega budget I'd get that 970M board and the Callisto. The Callisto is only an 80w CPU so a 4+1 VRM is fine.

Keep those HD4850s in a crossfire with a SSD and you will be able to run most games on moderate settings for real cheap. I have a few spare DDR3 sticks of ram if you are interested. 8 gigs of Mushkin 10666 Iirc.
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So... I got a screaming SCREAMING good deal on 3 brand new 24" Samsung monitors... but my desk is only wide enough for 2 with stands and a dual monitor setup is driving me up a ****ing wall. Have to turn my head/twist while watching video or gaming which doesn't sound like a big deal but my OCD is going nuts and the big black gap dead ahead of me just has to go.

So... hopefully my cards are good enough to handle some of my games in a FOV setup with Eyefinity. And hopefully the triple setup fits... I have this desk

FREDDE Computer work station - IKEA

Unlike anything else I have ever gotten from Ikea, it is built like a tank, has built in cupholders, the cutout in the middle is great, the black finish on the particle board is actually a real high quality one that is textured and resistant to spills... but problematic for a triple setup with big monitors. The mount I bought has a foot or I can drill a bolt hole in the desk so I'll make it work.

Mount-It! Triple Freestanding Monitor Widescreen Monitors Up to 24" - Newegg.com

Center monitor will be about 12-18" from my face and I am likely going to remove the foot and integrate it right into the desk with a 1x4 piece of wood attached to the metal desk bracing to drill into. Wing monitors will go out past the side posts but not past the side shelves. Cannot wait to play Elite Dangerous with a joystick/throttle setup with FOV... or Skyrim... or Fallout 4. As long as the crossfired HD7850s can handle it. If not its R9 time.
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I've had good luck with Ergotech mounts. They are a bit pricey but they are basically industrial grade.

Ergotech: Innovative Monitor Mounting and Sit-Stand Solutions


Also, you have to use display port for eyefinity to work. Not sure if you know this but it's been a requirement on both Nvidia and AMD since, well.. forever. So if your monitors have them, good. If not, start looking for a proper adapter.
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My monitors all have display port ins and I have an assload of adapters at work just sitting in a drawer if they didn't. I have 2 mini display port outs on my HD7850, not 3... I suppose a MST adapter will have to go on order in that case... I've got the mini to standard and mini to DVI and standard to DVI adapters all at work like I said.

I already got the Mount It mount and I'll see how she does. Even if I can just game on one center screen for right now before I get the Eyefinity thing worked out it'll still be nice to have 3 screens. Plus I'm thinking my current GPU setup will not be able to do anything high stress on 3 monitors anyway.
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Hokai,


So what I am gathering is that you need ONE display port for an eyefinity setup and the other 2 can be DVI or whatever.


This is the exact card I have (2 of them)


PowerColor PCS+ Radeon HD 7850 AX7850 2GBD5-2DHPP 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Newegg.com


So no shortage of outputs. DVI/DVI/DP is what I am going to do. I just don't think crossfired versions of these is going to be enough video card for newer high end graphics games. We'll see...
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You just have to use 1 displayport, the others can be anything. Also, all connections should be on the primary card.

You will hit the Vram limit quickly with a 2GB card at triple screen resolutions. The games will likely stutter simply because of the Vram.
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