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Old 12-02-2015, 07:07 AM   #141
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I'm not sure how gaming on 2 monitors would be as far as like... actually playing. You'd have the bezels right down the center of the "screen" if you used both. I'd only game on one or add a third like I did. Monitors are dirt DIRT cheap on Newegg right now. Like under $100 for a solid 1080p with 2ms refresh rate. Unless you are completely OCD like me and need to have them all match lol.
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Yeah, I only game on one. I don't have enough space in my desk for three. Haha.


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I'm guessing your motherboard is an Asus Z77 and it looks like an EVGA video card, which means it's Nvidia. Going by the SFF (small form factor) and single 6 pin, I'm guessing a GT 740 or 750 Ti.



If it's a 740, you are looking at AMD 7750 / R7 250 levels of performance. Solid upgrades are available.



If your card is a 750 Ti, it's a few jumps up the ranks with performance on the same level as AMD 7790, R7 260X or GTX 660.



Like Scotty mentioned, tell us the specs on your computer (ram, CPU), what resolution you play at, what games you play, what you expect and how much you want to spend.







As for buying a used SSD. Don't, unless you know the person. SSD's only have a limited number of write/rewrites before they fail. You could buy from someone who never had trim enabled by their OS and ran a defrags on it. Either of those can seriously shorten the life spans of the drive. Also, the first and second gen SSD's were junk, especially the ones with Sandforce controllers. The first and second gen Sandforce based SSD's won't even boot on newer systems. Those are from 2011 - 2012.

Impressive! It's a Asus p-z77-vlk mobo, Intel core i5 3570k over clocked to 4.7 ghz, 16 gb of ddr3, evga gtx 650 ti 2gb which is a CHEAP card. I build it for like $800 2 years ago and I run a Samsung 26" led 1980x1080 single monitor. Looking for a better card to run battle felid 4 for under $300


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Impressive! It's a Asus p-z77-vlk mobo, Intel core i5 3570k over clocked to 4.7 ghz, 16 gb of ddr3, evga gtx 650 ti 2gb which is a CHEAP card. I build it for like $800 2 years ago and I run a Samsung 26" led 1980x1080 single monitor. Looking for a better card to run battle felid 4 for under $300


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You're in a similar boat to me as far as specs although your i5 would probably blow away my FX8350 as far as benchmarks go.

Probably the same thing I got recommended to me which you can see up earlier in the thread which is a non-reference AMD R9 290 or 390. Since the 290s are all sold out except for the reference cards, probably a 390.

PowerColor PCS+ Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 AXR9 390 8GBD5-PPDHE 8GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support ATX Video Card - Newegg.com

I'm still mad at myself for not jumping on a non-reference 290 for $198 on BF before they sold out... ugh...
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You're in a similar boat to me as far as specs although your i5 would probably blow away my FX8350 as far as benchmarks go.

Probably the same thing I got recommended to me which you can see up earlier in the thread which is a non-reference AMD R9 290 or 390. Since the 290s are all sold out except for the reference cards, probably a 390.

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I'm still mad at myself for not jumping on a non-reference 290 for $198 on BF before they sold out... ugh...
A GTX 970 would work too. Only issue with them is that once they go over over 3.5 GB of used Vram, they take a huge hit as that last 512 MB is turd slow. Also, the 290/390 rape the 970 and sometimes the 980 in DX12.

Also, the 970's cost more than the 290's.
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I'm just curious as to whether 390s in a crossfire could actually finally use that full 8GB of memory of if they'd still be too slow. I would not get that setup and for that price one could buy a Fury but still wondering.
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I'm just curious as to whether 390s in a crossfire could actually finally use that full 8GB of memory of if they'd still be too slow. I would not get that setup and for that price one could buy a Fury but still wondering.
They would still be to slow.

The more memory that is used, the memory needs to be synchronized between the cards, which means more overhead.

It's really hard to explain.

It would like having two identical horses.

Each horse can carry 8GB of stuff but can only effectively carry 4GB of stuff.

Each horse can also only move a cart at 40 fps.

So in crossfire, both identical horses can still only carry 8GB of stuff but only effectively carry 4GB. That hasn't changed.

What has changed is that now both horses connected to the same cart can move the cart at 70 fps.

So their usable capacity and maximum capacity hasn't changed, The only thing that has changed is they are now both able to work together to move the cart faster.


It's a stupid analogy but without getting super technical I'm not sure how else to describe it.
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Ok I get it, its like the new engines on the C-5 Galaxy. They're throttled to something like 35-40% of what their max rated thrust is or they'll rip the pylons off the wing. 4 of them in unison move the jet at X speed but can still only achieve that thrust percentage per motor.


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I'm going to see if the bolt holes on my CM cooler line up with the holes in the 290x card and if they do I will probably go ahead and get a reference 290 if the performance gain is what I am expecting and do a full DIY setup. Either use the 140mm I have and keep the air cooler on the CPU or pick up one of the refurb H55s and use that. Unsure if I'd ever want to go custom loop since the AIOs are so cheap and my case is more than large enough for 2 or 3 of them no problem.
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Final upgrade to this thing arrived today.



It isn't top of the line but I'll crush everything at 1080p no problem. And technically it still is a recent release because the new Radeon 390 is just a "re-skin" of this card.

Any extra money I have from now on is going into the blower cam fund.
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Finally got around to getting this sucker in tonight (and returning the one I was borrowing). Out of the box the clock speeds are 947/1250, I turned it up to 1175/1450 mirroring all the settings Ish kindly sent me and its rock solid. Little on the hot side with that rink a dink H50 cooler but doesn't break 70C.

Will be putting it into a push/pull with better CM fans when I swap out the mobo. Either way at a near max OC it runs 20+ degrees cooler than it would at stock speeds with the Reference cooling.

Pulled a 13307 graphics score in Firestrike. Want to get the water cooling and other mobo back in so I can see if going to 5.2ghz on the CPU does anything to this score.
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Replaced the single fan on the H50 with two CM fans that do 90CFM each and I forget the static pressure but its very good. Core temps plummeted during stress tests by almost 20C. I don't break 60C on the core now. VRM1 is still a little sketch but will have to do some real world testing with 3 monitors going at once to see how hot it gets. I may have to swap the stock NZXT fan out with a Noctua or something to get the VRM temps on the GPU where I want them.

Now as soon as that Sabertooth gets back from the RMA I'm going to put the CPU water cooler back and hopefully be done with this thing for awhile.
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Finally got my new graphics card. I got some games for Christmas from the lady and my rig wasn't up to the task. So I just went for it and got a evga gtx 960 ssc. I know I know... The Radeon r9 380 is technically more powerful. But they both had 4 gigs and the clock speed on my 960 is insane. I'm so happy with it so far and it's night and day from my 650. I feel like I've been in the Stone Age with my 650.


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Finally got my new graphics card. I got some games for Christmas from the lady and my rig wasn't up to the task. So I just went for it and got a evga gtx 960 ssc. I know I know... The Radeon r9 380 is technically more powerful. But they both had 4 gigs and the clock speed on my 960 is insane. I'm so happy with it so far and it's night and day from my 650. I feel like I've been in the Stone Age with my 650.


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I've done some messing around with the 960's and they are one of the best performance per watt cards on the market. The one you have, EVGA SSC is one hell of an overclocker, at least the few I have messed with all hit 1460 - 1480 Mhz on the core, under load. One I sold has hit over 1550 Mhz.

I'm sure it's one hell of a jump from a GTX 650.
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I'm thinking about upgrading my 5970 AMD card lol. Probably going with gtx this time around.

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Dont get the 970 if you do. Tbth the 390 is both cheaper and better. I'm loving my 290.

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Ford is probably the only company I'll fan boy. It feels pathetic to be a open fan boy about any company. That being said I'm open to try new company's. I was so close to buying the Radeon r9 380x 4gb but the clock speed on the ones I could afford were like 980 MHz to like 1030mhz oc. Where the 960 ssc is like 1279 with a oc of 1342 which for $20 less than the fastest Radeon I could afford is much much better. Sure I could oc it myself but then the warranty goes bye bye. So the 960 was better in my eyes for the price and it comes with a lot off goodies. I'm sure the Radeon is just as good but it was pretty bare bones for a similar priced one.


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I've already OC'd my 290 and completely voided the warranty by adding the water cooling to it. Although I could probably put the stock reference cooler back on. AMD finally got something right with the recent batch of video cards but it might be too little too late, we'll see. Intel CPUs are so much better now and this is from someone who currently runs an AMD and has run exclusively AMD since 2003. If the Zen chips aren't everything they are cracked up to be, my next build will be an Intel.

As far as GPU pricing... best time to buy was right before/during BF. I missed the boat on a few cards waiting for a deal but it is what it is. Lots of ppl like me got screwed waiting for mega Cyber Monday deals that never happened. I could have paid $198 for a non reference 290 but I would not have been able to OC it nearly as much as with water cooling so I paid $219 for the Reference card and another $80 or so water cooling it.
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Ford is probably the only company I'll fan boy. It feels pathetic to be a open fan boy about any company. That being said I'm open to try new company's. I was so close to buying the Radeon r9 380x 4gb but the clock speed on the ones I could afford were like 980 MHz to like 1030mhz oc. Where the 960 ssc is like 1279 with a oc of 1342 which for $20 less than the fastest Radeon I could afford is much much better. Sure I could oc it myself but then the warranty goes bye bye. So the 960 was better in my eyes for the price and it comes with a lot off goodies. I'm sure the Radeon is just as good but it was pretty bare bones for a similar priced one.


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Different architectures ... megahertz mean nothing.

AMD's GPU's are far faster than Nvidia when comparing at equal clock speeds, generally around 30% faster clock for clock.

Also, you didn't do bad, the 960 is a good chip.

As far as voiding the warranty ... it's EVGA, they don't care ... at all. You can tell them you destroyed it overclocking it on LN2 and they will be like "F'n awesome, what clockspeed and firestrike did you score." Seriously. I've witnessed it. They don't care if you remove the stock heatsink and use another one. They are great. If you are buying an Nvidia card, go EVGA.

This is from their website - https://www.evga.com/support/faq/afm....aspx?faqid=55

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Does overclocking void my warranty?

Answer / Solution

Overclocking our products does not void the warranty as long as there is no physical damage to the product or missing components. However EVGA Support will not be able to assist you in overclocking the product.

You may post in our forums, where other EVGA.com community members would be able to give you advise on how to overclock.
Please visit: forums.evga.com/

Please remember, other product warranties maybe voided by overclocking other products in the computer, such as your processor."



I just finished swapping my old system (EVGA X58 mobo, Intel Xeon X5660 6 core / 12 thread @ 4.8Ghz, 12 GB 1866 DDR3, 290X under water) into a new case..

It's a bit small but it will work..

BTW, that's a 24" monitor.



I also built a new system in an identical case. It's an Asus Sabertooth X99 mobo, Intel 5820K 6 core / 12 thread @ 4.6 Ghz, 32 GB 300 DDR4, 290X under water, 2 TB of SSD.
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That's an awesome build. Yours too Scotty. I have my ivy bridge i5k running at oc 4.3 ghz with a cheapo antec water cooler and its been really nice with the new 960. I also have 16gigs of ddr3 g skill ripjaws. I would over clock the 960 but I feel no need as it runs all my games at 60+ fps without breaking a sweat.


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Eh... mine is a pea shooter compared to Ish lol. It works tho. I've been playing the **** out of some Rebel Galaxy on 3 wide and its 60+ FPS in huge capital ship battles without going over 63 on the core or 81 on the VRM fully overclocked and it still could be a little better. Which is why I made the 290/390 the card I needed to have for my budget. Way faster chipset than the next tier down, 4 gigs of actual usable ram and known to be very good to overclock. I have three 1080p screens so I needed something with 4GB and the ability to actually use it. If I had stuck with one screen I would have just kept my crossfired HD7850s.


Rebel Galaxy is a real fun zero learning curve game for like $13 ($20 now?) on Steam. Gets a little grindy after awhile just doing missions to get bigger guns but that's the curse of the space sim/shooter.
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I see everyone posting their rigs but what about the Monitors? Anyone use the ASUS 144hz monitor? Or seen the new ASUS 175hz I believe monitor. I currently use the 144hz monitor and it's gorgeous looking compare to my old monitor.

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3 Samsung Syncs at 1080p. They work well enough. I could never go back to any flight or space sim on a single monitor after this.


Also, please forgive the terrible cable management. I am redoing it all when I take the tower back apart to swap mobos.

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I don't see how people use more than 1 Monitor. Seems rather annoying having to turn your head just to see something. I think 1 monitor is fine with me. Not a huge gamer. Casual League of Legends every now and then but that's about it.

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^same as Scotty, Samsung sync led 1960x1080. Except I only have one. One gripe about my 960.. Not sure if it's even the card or my hard drive is bugging. But after playing black ops 3 for like 4 hours the frames drop From like 45 and back to 60 rapidly and it makes the game run annoying. At the time I immediately switched to battle field 4 and boom it's back to normal. So I'm not sure if the card was getting hot or the game is screwy. I played it this morning on black ops 3 and its back to normal. The card temp then he issue happend was at 65 ish and the fans were on 2 percent lol. So I don't think it was the card.


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I see everyone posting their rigs but what about the Monitors? Anyone use the ASUS 144hz monitor? Or seen the new ASUS 175hz I believe monitor. I currently use the 144hz monitor and it's gorgeous looking compare to my old monitor.

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On my main rig I am running 3 x 24 Asus VG248QE 144Hz. I like how smooth everything is but the colors are really bad. Even after tweaking it, the TN panel looks like crap compared to any IPS panel.

In a few weeks, I plan on buying a 34" 21:9 3440x1440 panel. I would love it if Asus would get off their butts and release a 75+ Hz Freesynch panel. Sadly ... they haven't.

So .. I will likely go with an Acer XR341CK.

I also have an Oculus Rift DK2. I use it when I play racing sims, Assetto Corsa and Project Cars with a Logitech G27, FTW. Once they get VR support in FSX and/or X Plane, I will be investing in a good setup for flight sims.
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I don't see how people use more than 1 Monitor. Seems rather annoying having to turn your head just to see something. I think 1 monitor is fine with me. Not a huge gamer. Casual League of Legends every now and then but that's about it.

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For Lol/Dota2 and first person shooters I use a single monitor. Having side panels on games like that is a liability. But for a space or flight or driving sim it makes it SO much better to the point of you kind of have to have a setup like mine for those sims especially combat flight sims. Being able to look at what is going on out of the "side windows" while you are in a dogfight is invaluable.

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^same as Scotty, Samsung sync led 1960x1080. Except I only have one. One gripe about my 960.. Not sure if it's even the card or my hard drive is bugging. But after playing black ops 3 for like 4 hours the frames drop From like 45 and back to 60 rapidly and it makes the game run annoying. At the time I immediately switched to battle field 4 and boom it's back to normal. So I'm not sure if the card was getting hot or the game is screwy. I played it this morning on black ops 3 and its back to normal. The card temp then he issue happend was at 65 ish and the fans were on 2 percent lol. So I don't think it was the card.


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Download GPU-Z and run it minimized while you are gaming. On the sensors tab you can check your core and VRM1 and VRM2 temps. You can see what they are currently and what the max temp was. This is how I know my 290 that is clocked about as high as it can go safely is running cool enough. Not sure what the fan setup on your 960 is. One thing I might do if I were you would be to pull it out of the case, remove the card cooler that is on it and redo all the TIM with Prolimatech PK1. I've started using that stuff instead of Arctic Silver and I'm not going back.

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On my main rig I am running 3 x 24 Asus VG248QE 144Hz. I like how smooth everything is but the colors are really bad. Even after tweaking it, the TN panel looks like crap compared to any IPS panel.

In a few weeks, I plan on buying a 34" 21:9 3440x1440 panel. I would love it if Asus would get off their butts and release a 75+ Hz Freesynch panel. Sadly ... they haven't.

So .. I will likely go with an Acer XR341CK.

I also have an Oculus Rift DK2. I use it when I play racing sims, Assetto Corsa and Project Cars with a Logitech G27, FTW. Once they get VR support in FSX and/or X Plane, I will be investing in a good setup for flight sims.
I think that is where gaming visuals are going honestly, to super wide singles with Track IR or an Oculus. I'm very sketch on an Oculus for me personally with a 6 yr old and pets. Something happens and I have my headsets and that on and I can't hear it and not a good situation... I'd like to get a super ridiculous wide single maybe next year or the year after at 1440 or even 4K depending on what the prices are like. At that point I'll need an upgraded card tho unless DX12 works some sort of wizardry on the current iteration of GPUs.
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Also Ish, do you already have a HOTAS for flight simming or are you going to get one?
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Also Ish, do you already have a HOTAS for flight simming or are you going to get one?
All I have at the moment is an Xbox 360 controller and a Logitech G27 Wheel, 3 pedals and 6 spd H shifter. Nothing for flight sims.

I was looking to get either a Saitek X52/X55 or Thrustmaster Warthog and a decent set of pedals.

I'm not entirely sure what I will get or when I will get them but VR support in either FSX or X Plane will make things happen a hell of a lot faster.


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I think that is where gaming visuals are going honestly, to super wide singles with Track IR or an Oculus. I'm very sketch on an Oculus for me personally with a 6 yr old and pets. Something happens and I have my headsets and that on and I can't hear it and not a good situation... I'd like to get a super ridiculous wide single maybe next year or the year after at 1440 or even 4K depending on what the prices are like. At that point I'll need an upgraded card tho unless DX12 works some sort of wizardry on the current iteration of GPUs.
As far as wearing the Oculus, you are completely absorbed into that environment with a good set of headphones/earbuds. It's hard to describe it but you literally feel like your head was taken off your body and placed where the game wants it. You have freedom of movement up, down, left, right, forward, backward .. it's a strange thing at first but when done properly ... it's OMG awesome.

Project Cars and Assetto Corsa are amazing with a steering wheel. You feel like you are in the car, you can look through the corners, you can move your head to look through your mirrors, you can lean forward, backward or to the side to see around the A pillar in your car, just like you were there ... it's Fn amazing.

The best use of the Oculus that I have found outside of sims, is Alien Isolation.... Mother of God... that game... that game, is something else. Playing on triple screens was at times, intense. Playing it in the Oculus, I honestly, no BS, think someone could kill over dead from a heart attack.

In that game, you can have your character crouch under a desk, box or whatever. With the Oculus, you can do the same thing except you can move your head to look under a desk and see the Aliens feet as it walks by, you can peek around a corner, just like you would in real life. It has to be experienced to understand just how good the tech is.

I let my GF play it a bit and she literally started crying and having a panic attack, I thought it was hilarious, she said she truly felt like her life was in danger. Shes one of those people who enjoys scary movies, going out on Halloween to haunted caves/hospitals/corn fields.. I mean she loves that stuff. I have never seen her shaken up so badly and we have been together for 5 years. She absolutely will not play A:I at all. Just firing up the game she will leave the room. For an experience, especially in a video game to be that traumatic, it just shows how immersive it can become.

If you ever get a chance to try it out, do it. It is something that will change your perspective on just how immersive a game can be.
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Ah crap now I have to get an Oculus... I'm going to assume that the card might not have to be as robust for the Oculus as a triple screen? I mean its a single small screen...

As for a HOTAS. The X52 is a good entry level setup but it needs to be modded because of a pretty noticeable dead zone in the center and the spring is too light for some. Mine has the magnet mod and the spring tension mod although you don't need the spring tension mod on the Pro. The Pro has the same guts as the regular X52 tho and its all plastic insides. I think I have $90 into mine total mods and all because I got it used so as to not void the warranty on a new one doing the magnet mod.

The X55 has had a lot of real bad press as well. From sticky throttles to the button placement not being great to the same QC issues as the X52 series since they're all owned by Mad Catz. My X52 seems to be fine but cracking it open you can tell it was built by a 12 yr old in China... And from having had both in my hands the X52 is waaaaaaaayyyy more ergonomic to hang onto plus it has an adjustable palm rest where the X55 is fixed and too low for most ppl. The Warthog is nice but... also plastic internals... for a $400 setup and you still need pedals.

The BEST setup out there is CH if you can deal with their stuff looking like its straight out of the 80s. CH Fighter Stick, CH Pro Throttle and the CH Pedals for about $600 total but it'll last 10 years+. CH internals are all metal and they actually make joysticks for military and industrial applications. A CH computer joystick is legit the same construction internally as one they'd put in a big crane or something. I will be getting a CH setup myself at some point in the future. Also the CH Pro throttle has something none of the others do, an analog mini stick. That means full thruster control vs all or nothing in space sims and there are other uses for it too. Not even close that the Pro Throttle is the best one out there.

And if buying new for under $200, anyone wanting to get a HOTAS and not want to spend the money on a full CH setup, get the CH Pro Throttle and pair it with a Thrustmaster T16000 stick for the same money as an X52Pro. That stick still has the twist rudder so you don't need to buy pedals and the precision is dead nuts accurate. Fantastic stick also for someone who just wants a joystick and does not care about a separate throttle or using the keyboard for a throttle.

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Ah crap now I have to get an Oculus... I'm going to assume that the card might not have to be as robust for the Oculus as a triple screen? I mean its a single small screen...

As for a HOTAS. The X52 is a good entry level setup but it needs to be modded because of a pretty noticeable dead zone in the center and the spring is too light for some. Mine has the magnet mod and the spring tension mod although you don't need the spring tension mod on the Pro. The Pro has the same guts as the regular X52 tho and its all plastic insides. I think I have $90 into mine total mods and all because I got it used so as to not void the warranty on a new one doing the magnet mod.

The X55 has had a lot of real bad press as well. From sticky throttles to the button placement not being great to the same QC issues as the X52 series since they're all owned by Mad Catz. My X52 seems to be fine but cracking it open you can tell it was built by a 12 yr old in China... And from having had both in my hands the X52 is waaaaaaaayyyy more ergonomic to hang onto plus it has an adjustable palm rest where the X55 is fixed and too low for most ppl. The Warthog is nice but... also plastic internals... for a $400 setup and you still need pedals.

The BEST setup out there is CH if you can deal with their stuff looking like its straight out of the 80s. CH Fighter Stick, CH Pro Throttle and the CH Pedals for about $600 total but it'll last 10 years+. CH internals are all metal and they actually make joysticks for military and industrial applications. A CH computer joystick is legit the same construction internally as one they'd put in a big crane or something. I will be getting a CH setup myself at some point in the future. Also the CH Pro throttle has something none of the others do, an analog mini stick. That means full thruster control vs all or nothing in space sims and there are other uses for it too. Not even close that the Pro Throttle is the best one out there.

And if buying new for under $200, anyone wanting to get a HOTAS and not want to spend the money on a full CH setup, get the CH Pro Throttle and pair it with a Thrustmaster T16000 stick for the same money as an X52Pro. That stick still has the twist rudder so you don't need to buy pedals and the precision is dead nuts accurate. Fantastic stick also for someone who just wants a joystick and does not care about a separate throttle or using the keyboard for a throttle.

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The DK2 I have basically runs at just under 1080P (960 x 1080 x 2) per eye @ 75Hz. So, it's about the same load as a 2K monitor. The thing is, it sucks under 60 FPS. Like badly.

The consumer version runs at 2160x1200 and 90 Hz. So it will need about 50% more power to run at full resolution and 90 Fps than the DK2 needs to run at its full resolution and Fps.


I will definitely take all this into consideration once I get serious about getting my flight sims going. It sucks that Mad Catz bought out Saitek. Mad Catz makes junk, IMO.

I will give CH stuff a deeper look. I know they have been around forever and always made good stuff.
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Ok so if I am doing fine on 5760x1080 I should be good for an Oculus I'm assuming. At least for a 290 running at 1175/1450...

Also got the Saber back and it's a brand new one! Gots myself an evening project.



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Ok so if I am doing fine on 5760x1080 I should be good for an Oculus I'm assuming. At least for a 290 running at 1175/1450...

Also got the Saber back and it's a brand new one! Gots myself an evening project.



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A single 290 at 1175/1450 should play most everything in a DK2 at max settings and 75+ Fps. Now ... the CV1 (consumer version 1) is a different beast. Same with the HTC Vive. I have no experience on those, nor does anyone else.

Rumor has it that both the Oculus CV1 and Vive were both shown on GTX 980Ti or AMD Fury X cards and ran fine. Seeing that a 290 at those clock speeds is about 25 - 30% slower than those cards ... it should be playable at reduced settings.


Let me know if those settings I sent you earlier for the Saberkitty work.
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I'll see how it works tonight or tomorrow.

It really is a much nicer board although someone not overclocking would do just as well with the M5A99FX.

Got the setup finally like I want it. AIO on the GPU, AIO on the CPU, case fans out the *** and triple 50mm fans strapped right onto the VRM. Also have an 80mm on the back of the socket. Shooting for 5.2ghz stable.


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Lmao now the socket temps are not a problem at all but the CPU temps since I'm not using the same noisy *** fans that came with the cooler. Oh well, out she comes again and going to hit the big JetFlos with dry lube to keep them from squealing, going to plug the pump directly into constant power and that should fix it.

And Ish, I have your settings mirrored right now and they are working with the Sabertooth just fine. Did not work with the M5A99FX. I guess the Saber really is worth the extra $$$ if one is overclocking but I also don't see most ppl having to care very soon when the Zen chips release. Because if they are great everyone with AMD is going to jump to them and if not then a LOT of ppl (me included) will finally bail for Intel.
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