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Old 10-11-2016, 11:05 AM   #1
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Mustang sales plunge 32% --- factory closed.

I wonder what caused this other than flooding on the east coast and colder weather here in the NW......Sales down 32% --- AND the Camaro outselling the Mustang? What's up with THAT?

You All Stopped Buying Mustangs So Now Ford Is Idling The Factory
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I'm going to say it's Ford Marketing.
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Yep. It's time Ford engineers wake up and get some more performance into the Mustang. Chevy woke up, and the Camaro is now spanking the Mustang; they even have their target on higher, exotic cars.

Lets get moving Ford, time to wakey wakey.
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The mustang is in a weird spot right now.


It has always had appeal as a simple, modular, affordable, but somewhat high performance car. Very few headaches to own. Very many smiles for very many miles.


Now its value is being measured in how much wiz-bang digital/electro/mechanical crap they can stuff into it. I don't trust them, honestly. All of the cost they add to the car to make it have more "technology" is a waste of money that should have been spent making it more reliable and durable.


I don't think we have any idea how these things will hold up long term. (insert lecture from random guy with 2017 GT with 500 miles on it that's still under warranty)
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One month does not make a year and the Mustang has a comfortable lead on the Camaro in 2016 with over 30,000 more Mustangs sold. Let's not go overboard here.

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For the first time in 22 months, September 2016 saw the Camaro beat the Mustang in terms of U.S. sales. More to the point, 6,577 Camaros versus 6,429 Mustangs. The Dodge Challenger is still at the bottom, having sold 5,698 units last month. When it comes down to year-to-date U.S. sales, the Mustang edges ahead of the Camaro by a great margin: 87,258 cars vs. 54,535.
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performance wise the mags seem to favor the Camaro.....I love the looks of them but at 6'3" I'm sure the view out is terrible. The side window height is like a cartoon dwg. I'm amazed it made it into production. Like the Stang it's amazing how nice cars are today although I agree with Panther about the too much technology just for the sake of bells and whistles. Even stuff like the mag shocks are great but not only are the shocks expensive have you tried getting parts for any 10 year old piece of electronics? I would hate to need to buy a new car because the shocks were worn out.
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They build WWWAAAYYY too many vehicles anyways!!
Every year, the dealers are jammed full with hundreds of new vehicles.
Half the production would still be too much!!
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What do they do with the thousands of new 2016 vehicles that are on the lots that aren't going to sell, anyways?


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The "extras" that did not sell used to be exported to Mexico. I'm wondering now if they will head to Cuba with the recent lift we now have on them.
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The "extras" that did not sell used to be exported to Mexico. I'm wondering now if they will head to Cuba with the recent lift we now have on them.

The GM/Ford dealer by my house has like a million 2016s they will be getting rid of eventually.
why the fudge do they build so many?!?!
& the prices are insane omg
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The GM/Ford dealer by my house has like a million 2016s they will be getting rid of eventually.
why the fudge do they build so many?!?!
& the prices are insane omg
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$114,000?!?
That's $85,000 US.

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$114,000?!?

That's $85,000 US.



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I'll guess the auto manufacturers can get some sort of tax break for any unsold vehicles at the end of the year. My next guess is that they will be torn down and used as replacement parts perhaps.
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Post Even sold for a loss is tax deductable....

They will sell them, even taking a loss on them. But they can write that off, so they won't be many skinny salesmen on the car lots.
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Sounds like a good opportunity to go shopping if you've been on the fence about a new Mustang.
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Sounds like a good opportunity to go shopping if you've been on the fence about a new Mustang.

There's a GM/Ford dealer right down the street from me; there are honestly about 100+ new 2016 GMC trucks that will disappear soon


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Chevy actually went with the times for technology. The Alpha chassis is far superior, and they cut weight while the Mustang gained weight. And then the active ride control being much more common where you can't even get anything like that in the Mustang.
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Rellik, you take me too seriously bro.

I've never modded a message board before.. so I was kinda giddy. Yea i know, big deal, so your'e a mod with a message board that has 10 members.

Well hey, thats cool for me.
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^^^ You're going to buy a Camaro because CuriousDodgeGuy became a mod on a forum with only 10 members???
That is the craziest reason that I have ever heard!
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Getting a Camaro because of this busted app lol

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^^^ You're going to buy a Camaro because CuriousDodgeGuy became a mod on a forum with only 10 members???

That is the craziest reason that I have ever heard!

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^^^ You're going to buy a Camaro because CuriousDodgeGuy became a mod on a forum with only 10 members???
That is the craziest reason that I have ever heard!
Probably buying a Camaro because the new ones look great and the S550's look not so great. Heck, the new mustangs don't even look good!

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Probably buying a Camaro because the new ones look great and the S550's look not so great. Heck, the new mustangs don't even look good!
Well, Kona, I don' think the new ones look much different than yours....but to me they both look good.
Do you look for threads to diss the new ones? It does get o................oh, never mind.....
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Well, Kona, I don' think the new ones look much different than yours....but to me they both look good.
Do you look for threads to diss the new ones? It does get o................oh, never mind.....
Yeah I can definitely see the similarities between the S550 and my S197. They both have 4 tires. They both have a steering wheel. I'm lost after that boss.

To answer your question, no I don't look for threads too diss the new model. The threads just pop up and find me. I was just explaining what I believed to be the main reason on why the member was buying a Camaro.





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I decided to get a 2016 Camaro SS about 2 months ago. I liked the fact that they lost a couple of hundred lbs and gained HP at the same time.
However, once I sat in one, I said I would not like driving this car. It wasn't so much the visibility issue as it was the fact that I felt like I was sitting in a hole. With the bottom of the side window around chin level with my seat raised as much as I could. I said no thanks.

I went looking at the Challenger Scat Packs, which has the 485 HP engine without all the added goodies that makes the SRT cost about $7 to $8K more.
Ran across a leftover new 2015 SRT 392 at the dealer marked down about $6K. Once the wife said she likes the color, that's all I needed to hear.

It is a heavy car (4150 lbs) but it has a lot of torque and it's comparable to the quickness of a GT or Camaro at the drag strip. It only needs one thing for the drag strip and that's drag radials. The stock tires are terrible for traction. In fact when I took it for a test ride I had to learn to take it real easy to avoid burning rubber.

EDIT: BTW...I love the feel of my 3.7 Mustang but wanted something a bit faster to track. Started looking for a '14 GT but they were no where to be had in the color and options I wanted. Not a fan of the '15's and '16's so was forced to make a change. Very happy with what I ended up with.

Edit2: oh ya...I couldn't part with my '14 Mustang. Love the looks and feel of that car.
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Probably buying a Camaro because the new ones look great and the S550's look not so great. Heck, the new mustangs don't even look good!

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You must like the gun-slit forward vision and goofy front end because from the side Camaros look pretty much like the new Mustangs. I was shocked how similar they look when I saw this pic.
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Can't stand the rear end on the S550. Absolutely horrible. I do really like the front and rear to the 2017 Camaros.

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Can't stand the rear end on the S550. Absolutely horrible. I do really like the front and rear to the 2017 Camaros.
Sorry, but the Camaro is a cartoon car with ridiculous proportions to the greenhouse. 14" tall side windows??? I wouldn't have the new Camaro if I won one. I'd sell it and buy the only classy American GT --- the Mustang.
I will give kudos to GM for winning the weight loss and HP battle compared to the 'Stang.............but it would take me too long to grow the appropriate mullet in order to even test drive a Camaro.
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Sorry, but the Camaro is a cartoon car with ridiculous proportions to the greenhouse. 14" tall side windows??? I wouldn't have the new Camaro if I won one. I'd sell it and buy the only classy American GT --- the Mustang.
I will give kudos to GM for winning the weight loss and HP battle compared to the 'Stang.............but it would take me too long to grow the appropriate mullet in order to even test drive a Camaro.
No need to be sorry sir. I don't own a Camaro nor designed it. I would definitely keep it if I won a Camaro.

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Sounds like a good opportunity to go shopping if you've been on the fence about a new Mustang.
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I decided to get a 2016 Camaro SS about 2 months ago. I liked the fact that they lost a couple of hundred lbs and gained HP at the same time.
However, once I sat in one, I said I would not like driving this car. It wasn't so much the visibility issue as it was the fact that I felt like I was sitting in a hole. With the bottom of the side window around chin level with my seat raised as much as I could. I said no thanks.

I went looking at the Challenger Scat Packs, which has the 485 HP engine without all the added goodies that makes the SRT cost about $7 to $8K more.
Ran across a leftover new 2015 SRT 392 at the dealer marked down about $6K. Once the wife said she likes the color, that's all I needed to hear.

It is a heavy car (4150 lbs) but it has a lot of torque and it's comparable to the quickness of a GT or Camaro at the drag strip. It only needs one thing for the drag strip and that's drag radials. The stock tires are terrible for traction. In fact when I took it for a test ride I had to learn to take it real easy to avoid burning rubber.

EDIT: BTW...I love the feel of my 3.7 Mustang but wanted something a bit faster to track. Started looking for a '14 GT but they were no where to be had in the color and options I wanted. Not a fan of the '15's and '16's so was forced to make a change. Very happy with what I ended up with.

Edit2: oh ya...I couldn't part with my '14 Mustang. Love the looks and feel of that car.

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The mustang is in a weird spot right now.
(insert lecture from random guy with 2017 GT with 500 miles on it that's still under warranty)
Glad I am not the only one who sees this! When someone that has over 60K miles then they have some testing time under the belt.
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Not to mention I would get a 13 and 14 mustang and it isn't worth the transmission issues.

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