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Old 06-18-2004, 09:16 AM   #1
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The vandalized hands of the Liberty Column memorial sculpture seem to reach up for the American Flag in downtown Miami. The sculpture of a pair of hands honoring Cuban rafters was vandalized, resulting in the appearance of an obscene gesture. The pair of hands reaching skyward honors Cubans who did not make it to the United States on rafts on leaky boats. The hands are about 3 feet tall and 18 inches wide. City officials say they are taking steps toward fixing the monument.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:19 AM   #2
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that is pretty messed up. People are just mean. Granted they are illegal immigrants (for the most part), which I do not approve of, but they are people...
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Actually, Cubans have political asylum...once they hit dry land they are granted asylum..they get their green cards and pay taxes like everybody else..hence they are not illegal...
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ok. dont wanna argue that. I'll just say I was wrong. My mistake.







I work with a *formerly* illegal immigrant. We have a love-hate relationship, and I get tired of the immigration arguments.


edit: but why does the coast guard send them back and try to prevent their trip? j/w on my part.
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I agree with ya 99, I just dont care for the immigration thing there myself either...

if ya come to the US, come to speak english, and pay taxes like the wrest of us...there are plenty of spaniards here that get to live free tax for like 7 yrs or so, and we have to bust our arse's to get by and they live high on the hog!
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my main deal:

I like immigration. It's a good thing and theres the whole "thats what this country is based on" argument that I dont agree with 100%, but thats beside the point.

My deal is that there is a set way to become a citizen. A legal U.S. citizen. There are laws governing that. So if you want to to become an American, GREAT! I am glad for you. But do it legally.

They complain it's too expensive, yet they pay coyotes thousands to smuggle them into the middle of the desert.

They say it takes too long, well sometimes you just have to wait for somethings. I would think that the priviledge of becoming a legal U.S. citizen is worth waiting for, wouldn't you?


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its not our fault there gean pool started on the wrong side of the border...
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[QUOTE= but why does the coast guard send them back and try to prevent their trip? j/w on my part.[/QUOTE]
Because they are entering the country illegally. and the Coast Guard is trying to prevent them from reaching dry land...but once they are here they can stay...Don't ask me hos that works but that is the way it is.

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I agree with ya 99, I just dont care for the immigration thing there myself either...

if ya come to the US, come to speak english, and pay taxes like the wrest of us...there are plenty of spaniards here that get to live free tax for like 7 yrs or so, and we have to bust our arse's to get by and they live high on the hog!
My bad for starting this. But now that we are on the topic... I agree that if u go to any country u should learn the language...but, This country is made of immigrants. Unless you are a native american it is a fact that your ancestors are immigrants, they came here looking for opportunity and freedom from oppression(what do u think the american revolution was about?). The same as Cubans and Hatians Who come running from oppression and looking for a better life. yes, there are many illegal immigrants that do not pay taxes, but u know what they do not live the high life because of that, actually they work their asses off doing hard labor for less than minimum wage. I say just give them a SS# and let them pay taxes.
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i think im finished in this thread. I respect everybody elses opinion. Even if you are wrong
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lol...I think I'm done to, And I also respect your opinion eve though you are wrong... ...I just thought it was messed up to vandalize the sculpture...oh well.
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My bad for starting this. But now that we are on the topic... I agree that if u go to any country u should learn the language...but, This country is made of immigrants. Unless you are a native american it is a fact that your ancestors are immigrants, they came here looking for opportunity and freedom from oppression(what do u think the american revolution was about?). The same as Cubans and Hatians Who come running from oppression and looking for a better life. yes, there are many illegal immigrants that do not pay taxes, but u know what they do not live the high life because of that, actually they work their asses off doing hard labor for less than minimum wage. I say just give them a SS# and let them pay taxes.
:yup: they sould let people immagrate here and just let them work and pay taxes. but its not just cubans and hatins that are oppressed.
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I know just using them as examples
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THA SHOCKER!!!!! lol... im sorry, thats horrible and all but if i saw that id start crackin up
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