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Old 11-25-2008, 04:45 PM   #1
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wITH THE ZR1 CORVETTE, GT-500 KR, DODGE CHALLENGER AND CTS-V IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT TIME TO GET A SUPER CAR THAT HAS THE CAPABILITIES OF THE ABOVE CARS. BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT IN THE FUTURE THESE CARS ARE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES BECAUSE THE CAFE WILL BE 35 MPG. ANYONE KNOW WHAT YEAR THIS IS SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN? 2010 OR 2011?
BECAUSE OF THIS I HEARD THE CORVETTE CANCELLED THEIR PLANS FOR NOW FOR A C-7 AND IT IS POSSIBLE THE V-6 MAYBE THE MOTOR FOR THAT CAR.
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ive heard something about 2012 standards, it will be gradual, and all cars wont have to get 35mpg or what not, just the fleet average~ so if they make a car that gets 45mpg they can make one that gets 20 and it will even out.
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ive heard something about 2012 standards, it will be gradual, and all cars wont have to get 35mpg or what not, just the fleet average~ so if they make a car that gets 45mpg they can make one that gets 20 and it will even out.
thanks for the info..I guess it won't be too dismal, I have also heard about DOD displacement on demand where the cars will run on 4 cyclinders then if needed will run on all cyclinders,,maybe a good thing I don't know.
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thanks for the info..I guess it won't be too dismal, I have also heard about DOD displacement on demand where the cars will run on 4 cyclinders then if needed will run on all cyclinders,,maybe a good thing I don't know.
Dodge already has that feature on the Hemi engines. I think it does make a noticable difference, but not a whole lot,
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Dodge already has that feature on the Hemi engines. I think it does make a noticable difference, but not a whole lot,
Yes this is true I have heard of that. I wonder if that is going to cause more problems as the engine gets older?
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the only real performance car out of those IMO would be the ZR1, the shelby is nice but its far to heavy and bulky to be anywhere NEAR a supercar IMO... just a musclecar.
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the only real performance car out of those IMO would be the ZR1, the shelby is nice but its far to heavy and bulky to be anywhere NEAR a supercar IMO... just a musclecar.
Don't forget that CAD CTS-V has 556 horses even though it weighs 4,200 lbs. it goes 0 - 60 under 4 seconds and I believe the CTS-V is a faster car than the Shelby GT-500 KR and the Dodge Challenger 6.1. All of these cars with the exception of the Corvette weight around 4,000 lbs.

What does the V mean in CTS? Vette?
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Out of curiousity, why do you attach random images to your posts? I've always wondered that.
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Even Cadillac cut out one of their V-8 engines. GM put the hold on the C-7 Corvette because of their current financial condition Maybe a mid 6 cyclinder. The Camaro convertible has been put on hold for a year.
I think that 35 MPG CAFE happens in 2016 or 2020 something like that and not 2010 or 2011 but this doesn't look good for those who like fast cars and V-8 engines.2:
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the only real performance car out of those IMO would be the ZR1, the shelby is nice but its far to heavy and bulky to be anywhere NEAR a supercar IMO... just a musclecar.
Hopefully the GT-500 KR should do better in retaining value or depreciation not as bad as the CTS-V and Dodge Challenger.
I think the ZR-1 will also keep its value because of the limited numbers they will produce.
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Dodge already has that feature on the Hemi engines. I think it does make a noticable difference, but not a whole lot,
GM developed this technology, has been using it on and off since the mid 80's
(mostly in some of the cady's)
its never been really popular until lately and now everyone claims that they're pioneers for using it.
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