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Old 12-03-2008, 04:46 PM   #1
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Barak Obama Day

I wonder if we could get that over here too...I would love an extra day off. Then again, I don't think you could find a town where he carried the majority in LA....hmm...I work for elections, I should look. lol

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MARION, Alabama (AP) (AP) — A small central Alabama county where Barack Obama received more than 70% of the vote in last month's election has created an annual holiday in honor of the president-elect.
The Perry County commission voted 4 to 1 to observe the second Monday in November as "The Barack Obama Day," The Birmingham News reported. County offices will close and its roughly 40 workers will get a paid holiday.

The sponsoring commissioner said the holiday is meant to give people faith that difficult goals can be achieved by reflecting on Obama's victory.

The majority of the county's 12,000 residents are black. Obama takes office Jan. 20 as the country's first black president.
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I'm not an Obama basher, I think he will do a decent job.... but that county is one of the poorest in Alabama constantly. It didn't improve under Clinton nor Bush.

So take that for what it's worth.
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I'm not bashing the man with this thread either...but damn, shouldn't he do something before he gets his own holiday? Or at least get sworn into office first?
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Agreed. That county is sparsely populated and their greatest accomplishment is having more people who voted in the majority for that county.

They basically pulled a 'Hey, look at us News'
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One of the poorest counties in the nation, and they get another holiday. WTF were they thinking, ok we can’t meet the budget but hey here is another paid day off, and with luck the schools will get it off as well. That’s how you save money; you take more paid days off.

Now I did not vote for President Elect Obama(tm copyright) but can we(the nation) wait until he does something before we start building his murals, schools, statues, what not? He might be just the thing this country needs to take a true leading roll in the world, I don’t think so, but I might be wrong. Is it really to much to ask for PEO to show that he is truly the one, before we codify it?
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One of the poorest counties in the nation, and they get another holiday. WTF were they thinking, ok we can’t meet the budget but hey here is another paid day off, and with luck the schools will get it off as well. That’s how you save money; you take more paid days off.

Now I did not vote for President Elect Obama(tm copyright) but can we(the nation) wait until he does something before we start building his murals, schools, statues, what not? He might be just the thing this country needs to take a true leading roll in the world, I don’t think so, but I might be wrong. Is it really to much to ask for PEO to show that he is truly the one, before we codify it?
Basically how I feel. Obama is a smart guy. He may not have some of my beliefs but he isn't dumb as a rock like Bush is. Obama will get another 4 years after this in my opinion as well. He just has too much momentum and I believe he is smart enough not to pander to the far left and welcome a more central view on issues.

With that said, after he wins his second term, is when I think you will see him loosen away from the center and start falling back into party lines. You can't blame him though. It's politics. Republicans do it too.
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Basically how I feel. Obama is a smart guy. He may not have some of my beliefs but he isn't dumb as a rock like Bush is. Obama will get another 4 years after this in my opinion as well. He just has too much momentum and I believe he is smart enough not to pander to the far left and welcome a more central view on issues.

With that said, after he wins his second term, is when I think you will see him loosen away from the center and start falling back into party lines. You can't blame him though. It's politics. Republicans do it too.
You think he ran from the center? Really? Let me guess CNN and CBS are non-biased news sources?

Are you honestly telling me that Bush is dumb, let alone as a rock? Really, Really?


AARRRTGGHG my brain hurts just trying to think of that. The logic fails. But if enough reporters ignore/lie about it, it must be true, right? 2:

Or did my sarcasm meter drastically fail?
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I'm completely confused on what you just wrote lol

I said that Obama will not stray far from the center of politics in his first 4 years but if/when he gets elected in 2012 again you will see him start pandering more to his parties more liberal side.

And yes, Bush is the dumbest President we have ever had. By far.
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I don’t understand how people can think that President Elect Obama(tm copyright) is smart. I just don’t understand it. As far as I know, he has never release his college transcript, nor has he release any paper that he wrote, nor has he shown anything that he wrote/edited while on the law review journal. He gave a few good speeches, where he said nothing.

He ran his election on the far left, the DailyKos/CodePink far left end of the political spectrum. He repeatedly came out in support of 'spreading the wealth' and confiscation tax system that punishes success. He honestly thinks that the bill of rights, should be done away with (source:NPR interview while state senator). Every time He has been forced to vote, He has opposed every single tax cut, he has supported every single new gun law, and he has stopped a bill in IL that would have prevented Infanticide!

He allowed the MSM(MainStreamMedia) to attack and attempt to destroy a private citizen that just asked a question, Joe The Plumber. Lets ignore the fact that PEO went up to Joe, and asked him if he had any questions, its Joes fault for daring to question the Anointed one. WTF OVER!

He ran on Change, but would not tell us what he wanted changed. He ran on Hope, but not what he hoped for. And the Change he wants to bring about is Carter and Clinton support staff, which tried repeatedly to kill the American Economy.

When PEO surrounds himself with advisers and he is Smart for doing so. But when GWB does it, it shows how stupid he is. Talk about a double standard.


GWB went to college, and graduated, from Harvard and Yale with a C average(iirc) starting college in 1968, back when you could get a C that was on honest C before the massive grade inflation of the 80s. Keep in mind that he went to College just as his Father was starting as a Representative from Texas, long before GHWB had enough political pull to do much of anything, due to him being elected in 1967.


But if you watch any MSM you quickly get the idea that GWB is an idiot, and PEO is the new son of God. And PEO might be the new son of God and he might lead us all to the promise land. Who knows, he might just be able to tax the US in to prosperity. Let’s just ignore the 60,000 years of history that show that this is not possible. But hey communism only killed what 60-100Million people lets give it one more go.


Bret sorry if this reads/feels like an attack, it is not meant to be an attack on you or any other poster. If anyone feels that it is, I am truly sorry for that. I don’t want to offend anyone. Also this is the last time I a going to post in this thread. If anyone wants to reply to me, send me a pm and I will reply there.
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I don’t understand how people can think that President Elect Obama(tm copyright) is smart. I just don’t understand it. As far as I know, he has never release his college transcript, nor has he release any paper that he wrote, nor has he shown anything that he wrote/edited while on the law review journal. He gave a few good speeches, where he said nothing.
I forgot graduating top 10% at Harvard doesn't mean anything anymore.

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He ran his election on the far left, the DailyKos/CodePink far left end of the political spectrum. He repeatedly came out in support of 'spreading the wealth' and confiscation tax system that punishes success. He honestly thinks that the bill of rights, should be done away with (source:NPR interview while state senator). Every time He has been forced to vote, He has opposed every single tax cut, he has supported every single new gun law,
George Bush spreads the wealth too. Under George Bush the top earners in this country pay 36% of the income tax. Just because George Bush lowered it from 39% doesn't mean he still isn't 'spreading the wealth'. The rich in this country pay more so middle class and poor pay less. That's how it has worked in this country since 1913. This whole spread the wealth crap is annoying as hell. Raising taxes to 39% from 36% does not equal socialism and does not equal spreading the wealth anymore than it currently is.

If you want to talk about rights being taken away, look no further than George Bush and the GOP. I absolutely love how die hard Republicans scream bloody murder when a Democrat talks about the 2nd amendment and tougher gun laws but supports a party and President that has completely disregarded the 4th amendment.

By the way, just because you get support from the DailyKos doesn't mean you support every single agenda they have. That's like saying Ron Paul believes 9/11 was a conspiracy because he has a group of people who support him.

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and he has stopped a bill in IL that would have prevented Infanticide!
Please stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. Here is a nice article on that: FactCheck.org: Obama and 'Infanticide'

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He allowed the MSM(MainStreamMedia) to attack and attempt to destroy a private citizen that just asked a question, Joe The Plumber. Lets ignore the fact that PEO went up to Joe, and asked him if he had any questions, its Joes fault for daring to question the Anointed one. WTF OVER!
Please do not call the guy 'Joe The Plumber'. He has a real name and trust me, it's not Joe. I guess it's ok for John McCain to take the guy and hoist him up on his shoulders as some kind of hero for asking a simple question and it's not ok for Obama to try to discredit this guy. John McCain is the one responsible for PUTTING HIM IN THE SPOT LIGHT. Obama sure didn't start running ads about him.

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He ran on Change, but would not tell us what he wanted changed.
The war.
The tax system.
The economy.
The healthcare system.

Just to name a few of the big ones. Just because you don't like the policy doesn't mean it somehow isn't change.

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He ran on Hope, but not what he hoped for. And the Change he wants to bring about is Carter and Clinton support staff, which tried repeatedly to kill the American Economy.
They might have tried repeatedly but George Bush and the Republican congress succeeded with flying colors. There is nothing like devaluing the dollar by running up record deficits to put an economy in the tank.

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When PEO surrounds himself with advisers and he is Smart for doing so. But when GWB does it, it shows how stupid he is. Talk about a double standard.
When George Bush surrounded himself around people like Karl Rove... yes he is dumb for doing so. When George Bush runs off people like Colin Powell, yes he is dumb for doing so. When George Bush doesn't fix problems and instead repeats them over and over again somehow expecting different results... he's dumb.

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GWB went to college, and graduated, from Harvard and Yale with a C average(iirc) starting college in 1968, back when you could get a C that was on honest C before the massive grade inflation of the 80s. Keep in mind that he went to College just as his Father was starting as a Representative from Texas, long before GHWB had enough political pull to do much of anything, due to him being elected in 1967.
Have you not heard of Preston Bush? You think the Bush legacy started with his Dad? Not quite. And give me a break. You are arguing that George Bush is somehow smarter because he got a C in 1968 and Obama is dumber for graduating in the top 10% of his class at Harvard, just because he did it at a later time.

This is a pretty good interview with one of his Professors too: The dunce - Salon.com

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But if you watch any MSM you quickly get the idea that GWB is an idiot, and PEO is the new son of God.
Give me a break! Go watch Foxnews. Boo hoo, every news agency is out to get Republicans. Republicans have an entire mainstream network dedicated to spitting their bs out.

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And PEO might be the new son of God and he might lead us all to the promise land. Who knows, he might just be able to tax the US in to prosperity. Let’s just ignore the 60,000 years of history that show that this is not possible. But hey communism only killed what 60-100Million people lets give it one more go.
I lose faith in Republicans every gaining control of the White House and Congress again when I hear things like this. It's sad when someone who wants to raise taxes back to what they were in the 90's for the rich is suddenly a socialist and is going to run the country into the ground.

What you ignore is that the reason that Obama is the president right now is BECAUSE OF HOW THE REPUBLICANS HAVE RUN THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND.

Starting wars that go against the constitution you claim to want to follow. Violating the 4th amendment. Running up deficits that this country can not afford to pay back.

EVERY PRESIDENT THAT CREATES DEFICITS IS A TAX HIKER! The sooner people learn this the better off this country will be. You can not create 6 TRILLION dollars in new debt and expect everything to be peachy. What happens when you go in debt? YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK. What happens when at the same time you run debt up, your income is reduced because of the economy?

So stop complaining about Barack Obama raising taxes on the rich. The reason that he has the power to do that is because George Bush had 8 years to be a conservative and he decided to be a Democrat. He created more government and more deficits than Bill Clinton could have dreamed of.

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Bret sorry if this reads/feels like an attack, it is not meant to be an attack on you or any other poster. If anyone feels that it is, I am truly sorry for that. I don’t want to offend anyone. Also this is the last time I a going to post in this thread. If anyone wants to reply to me, send me a pm and I will reply there.
This is not an attack on you either. The point of a debate is one side feels they are right and to prove it. I don't mind people telling me they think they are right and I am wrong. But you got to back it up with reason and fact.
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Please stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. Here is a nice article on that: FactCheck.org: Obama and 'Infanticide'
This is the only thing i am going to reply to, I just cant let that link go.

You might want to read it, from what i saw it said that PEO voted against 2 bills, 2001, 2002, that would have stopped the practive of infantacide, and that while he was the chairman of the key commitey it killed a bill in 2003 that would have all so stoped this act.

Next time dont quote a site owned by the Annenberg Foundation to prove something about PEO.

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The Annenberg name might ring a bell, because it paied both Ayers and PEO for some school charity work in Chicago. I dont link to freerepublic nor foxnews simply because of the rightwing leaning problem. I would not link to Annenberg or PEO's website to support/disprove something about Obama.



And thats my final post.
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So you pick and choose your battles and don't respond to points I make otherwise? Feel free to respond via Private Message if you don't want to post here. But I spent a good 30-40 minutes writing it only to have you pick out one sentence?

Everything seems to be black and white with you in regards to Obama. He is for infantcide because he voted for completing an abortion basically. That isn't infantcide. The goal was to abort the baby, not to get it out and try every last effort to save it. If that was the goal in the first place then there wouldn't be an ABORTION.

Now whether you are against abortion or for it, that's not the point. The point is you just tried to label Obama as someone that supports killing infants without looking at the specific cases surrounding the votes he made.

My point still remains the same. If you want a Republican in power, stop spending all your time whining and *****ing about Obama. Start whining and complaining about what allowed him to get the majority of Americas vote in the first place.

Also, donating money to Ayers for charity work is far from Foxnews saying whatever it takes to make Republicans look good and Democrats look bad.

If John McCain spent half the amount of time he spent talking about Ayers actually talking about issues and how he was going to fix them, he might have won.

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In discussions of abortion rights, definitions are critically important. The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. Those who believe that human life begins at conception or soon after can argue that even a fetus with no chance of surviving outside the womb is an "infant." We won't try to settle that one.
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Well I guess I scared another person away from debating me.

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I'll throw this in here. The sole thing that pisses me off about this election is how Obama got elected:



Good old fashioned rascism. Obama is your next president no matter if you like it or not. But seriously, let him prove his worth before you start carving out his forhead for Mount Rushmore.
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Sure, some people did vote for Obama just cause he was black. The same can be said about Hillary Clinton and Mike Huckabee though. People voted for Clinton cause she was a women and people voted for Huckabee because he said Jesus 700 times and was a former pastor. Religion is dumb too and has been altering elections far longer than Blacks because of their prejudice towards certain people or groups! Not everyone wants to talk about that.

People also voted against Obama because he was black too. When it's all said and done, having someone like Obama as President is a good thing for black America. They need better role models. Also, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ran for President as well in the past and we don't see their faces on the President list. It's not just racism that got Obama elected. It might have played a small part but the candidate was as qualified as any of the others on the left or right.
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