Oliver North letter to Kerry - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > Off Topic Forums > The Bar

Join Mustang Evolution Today

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 09-02-2004, 06:13 PM   #1
Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 23
Oliver North letter to Kerry

August 27, 2004

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my
service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group
does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam,
here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'" -- Sen. John Kerry

Dear John,

As usual, you have it wrong. You don't have a beef with President George Bush
about your war record. He's been exceedingly generous about your military
service. Your complaint is with the 2.5 million of us who served honorably in a
war that ended 29 years ago and which you, not the president, made the
centerpiece of this campaign.

I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn't about your medals or how
you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. I only have two
Purple Hearts, though. I turned down the others so that I could stay with the
Marines in my rifle platoon. But I think you might agree with me, though I've
never heard you say it, that the officers always got more medals than they
earned and the youngsters we led never got as many medals as they deserved.

This really isn't about how early you came home from that war, either, John.
There have always been guys in every war who want to go home. There are also
lots of guys, like those in my rifle platoon in Vietnam, who did a full 13
months in the field. And there are, thankfully, lots of young Americans today in
Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered to return to war because, as one of them
told me in Ramadi a few weeks ago, "the job isn't finished."

Nor is this about whether you were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Heck
John, people get lost going on vacation. If you got lost, just say so. Your
campaign has admitted that you now know that you really weren't in Cambodia that
night and that Richard Nixon wasn't really president when you thought he was.
Now would be a good time to explain to us how you could have all that bogus
stuff "seared" into your memory -- especially since you want to have your finger
on our nation's nuclear trigger.

But that's not really the problem, either. The trouble you're having, John,
isn't about your medals or coming home early or getting lost -- or even Richard
Nixon. The issue is what you did to us when you came home, John.

When you got home, you co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War and wrote
"The New Soldier," which denounced those of us who served -- and were still
serving -- on the battlefields of a thankless war. Worst of all, John, you then
accused me -- and all of us who served in Vietnam -- of committing terrible
crimes and atrocities.

On April 22, 1971, under oath, you told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
that you had knowledge that American troops "had personally raped, cut off ears,
cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned
up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed
villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun,
poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam."
And you admitted on television that "yes, yes, I committed the same kind of
atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed."

And for good measure you stated, "(America is) more guilty than any other body,
of violations of (the) Geneva Conventions ... the torture of prisoners, the
killing of prisoners."

Your "antiwar" statements and activities were painful for those of us carrying
the scars of Vietnam and trying to move on with our lives. And for those who
were still there, it was even more hurtful. But those who suffered the most from
what you said and did were the hundreds of American prisoners of war being held
by Hanoi. Here's what some of them endured because of you, John:

Capt. James Warner had already spent four years in Vietnamese custody when he
was handed a copy of your testimony by his captors. Warner says that for his
captors, your statements "were proof I deserved to be punished." He wasn't
released until March 14, 1973.

Maj. Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who was in Vietnamese custody for
2,284 days, says his captors "repeated incessantly" your one-liner about being
"the last man to die" for a lost cause. Cordier was released March 4, 1973.

Navy Lt. Paul Galanti says your accusations "were as demoralizing as solitary
(confinement) ... and a prime reason the war dragged on." He remained in North
Vietnamese hands until February 12, 1973.

John, did you think they would forget? When Tim Russert asked about your claim
that you and others in Vietnam committed "atrocities," instead of standing by
your sworn testimony, you confessed that your words "were a bit over the top."
Does that mean you lied under oath? Or does it mean you are a war criminal? You
can't have this one both ways, John. Either way, you're not fit to be a prison
guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief.

One last thing, John. In 1988, Jane Fonda said: "I would like to say something
... to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen
because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and
the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and
I'm ... very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their

Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?

Oliver North is a nationally syndicated columnist, host of the Fox News
Channel's War Stories and founder and honorary chairman of Freedom

2004 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

:patriot: :patriot:

sctalbott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 06:22 PM   #2
Legacy Member
Falcon's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2003
Region: Michigan
Posts: 1,438
Send a message via AIM to Falcon Send a message via MSN to Falcon Send a message via Yahoo to Falcon
very very awesome post:patriot: :patriot:

1999 Trans Am WS6
Full Stainless Magnaflow Exhaust, Stainless Longtubes/Off Road Y-Pipe, QTP E-Cutout, HP Tuners, Super Sucker Ram Air Kit, BMR Tunnel Brace/Driveshaft Safety Loop, Hotchkis Panhard Bar, Hypertech 160 Thermostat, CF Whisper Air Lid, Corvette FRCs, K&N, !AIR, !EGR
Falcon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 06:27 PM   #3
Legacy Member
n8r's Avatar
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 3,216
awesome, just awesome
Originally Posted by Brent
Nothing is ever official until its official
n8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 06:32 PM   #4
I liek gramer
WhiteStang99's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2004
Region: Florida
Posts: 8,537
Send a message via AIM to WhiteStang99

WhiteStang99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2004, 09:19 PM   #5
Registered User
Brent's Avatar
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Tennessee
Posts: 11,873
can't have this one both ways, John.

Brent is offline   Reply With Quote

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > Off Topic Forums > The Bar

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Divorce Letter Herbstang The Bar 11 06-08-2007 11:46 PM
Oliver Stone is a POON!! at7311 The Bar 18 10-03-2006 08:54 PM
What Oliver North has to say about Kerry, LOL. Rick0636 The Bar 13 09-08-2004 10:26 AM
Oliver North article on the UN....good one, lol Rick0636 The Bar 5 07-12-2004 08:46 AM

» Like Us On Facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

10:00 AM

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.