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Old 09-14-2004, 04:25 PM   #1
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army vs. navy vs. air force vs. marines?

see thread I hate life
but I am thinking I may just say "f**k it" and go enlist in the military. I have a college degree and thus I could enlist as an officer (2nd lieutenant).

I don't know which branch I want to join. I would love to fly planes, but I don't have the vision to be a pilot and I think I am right on the cutoff (if not worse) for navigator. So I might be able to be airborne, but no recruiter will give a promise of that. Plus I have heard that out of all the branches, the air force is the only one not hurting for members and even rejecting a few enlisted men.

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My cousin just got out of the Navy. He said a year or two ago when he was 19, he loved it. But now, it just got old. Waiting at a base to get shipped out for a few months and then come back and get moved off to another base across the country.

I say Navy or Air Force. You can actually use the knowledge from it after you get out.
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All it all depends what you want to get out of the armed forces. SHouldnt base it upon certain aspects but the whole picture itself. Personally I was gonna join the air forces at one point but decided its not for me.

Also if your going into any kind of science techolongy or marine type jobs in the future then the Air Forces/Navy is where its at.

Good Luck on whatever you decide
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USAF baby and you get to have OTS right here in SA
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:13 PM   #5
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You do not enlist as an officer...

If you enlist - you are enlisted


If you get commissioned - you are an officer...


Going to a recruiter is the #1 way to become enlisted....
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if you enlist with a college degree, you goto boot camp and then you are immediatly promoted to E5 and then goto OCS. There are special recruiters for officers vs all the normal ones that are for enlistedmen
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not with the AF at least with the AF basic is 6 weeks and OTS(officer training school) is 9 weeks which includes basic and the ONLY basic training is right here
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just be very careful about what you hear from recruiters. One suckered my friend....


He shouldn't be where he is right now.


I say go AF. that's probably where I should be, but we all make mistakes, right?
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Ya, go in the Air Force. But for me to have some respect for you, you need to have some enlisted years. Out of all the branches, we treat our people the best and have the highest living conditions. People make fun of the Air Force for this, but hey I do my hard time in the desert just like everyone else, and besides why would you want to live in a dump for 20 years?
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well, I don't want to go enlisted. I have a friend who just got out of the army and was enlisted as an E5 and was basically telling me that people don't have respect for the butter bars because they come in right out of college and get a power trip. Knowing this, i wouldn't be power hungry since i would still be low man on the totem pole.

edit: i would love to join the air force but the others i have heard are short-stacked so-to-speak and could offer signing bonuses to officers.

PS. I won't get sign anything until it is in writing.
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I vote find another job outside of the military.....
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Well, as an ex-Navy type I gotta tell you this.

The AF sends it's officers to war and most of it's enlisted don't.

In any case going in as an officer you'll be facing challenges and experiences I never faced. You may love it, you may not. But if you go take this bit of advice, listen to your senior enlisted types. They know thier **** and have probably been doing it since before you were born. Listen to them, but YOU make the decision. Don't be wishy washy or indecisive or inconsistent. Follow the book, unless you have a damn good reason not to. AND NEVER TAKE ANY PICTURES IF YOU DON FOLLOW THE BOOK.

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I love the idea of flying, I'd wanna be with those guys in the Spectre Gunships.

But then again.. Cruise missiles would be fun too. :p
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if you enlist with a college degree, you goto boot camp and then you are immediatly promoted to E5 and then goto OCS. There are special recruiters for officers vs all the normal ones that are for enlistedmen
As far as the Air Force - That is 100% incorrect.

Nobody goes through enlisted basic, is promoted ot E5 and then goes to OCS..

There are ways to get from enlisted to officer - but it's not as direct as you describe.

If you find yourself at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, with all the 18-19yr olds fresh out of highschool - you will not be on-track to become an officer.
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As far as the Air Force - That is 100% incorrect.

Nobody goes through enlisted basic, is promoted ot E5 and then goes to OCS..

There are ways to get from enlisted to officer - but it's not as direct as you describe.

If you find yourself at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, with all the 18-19yr olds fresh out of highschool - you will not be on-track to become an officer.
Right Lackland AFB is only for the enlisted basic training. ANd no one out of the Air Force basic get E-5, the highest you can get is E-3 and that figured out before you get to basic by your recruiter. It depends on how many years you sign up and if you have college. Since you do, you'd get E-3 right out of basic. What kind of degree do you have? The Air Force is a techincal branch and certain types of degrees don't mean anything to us.
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Don't join the military unless u are 100% sure that is what u want to do, joining the military out of desperation because u can't find a decent job is not the best way to make that decision. Think really hard about what u want to do. And remember, recruiters will always paint u a pretty picture, so becareful
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i have a degree in biology. as for desperation, it was always in my mind out of college but i wanted to try to find a career job first.
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I'm a little biased, but don't go AF unless you love the desk. The navy has more pilots than the Air Force, so if you have the vision you can do that. I would recommend Navy or Marines, then army, with AF as a last resort. If you actually want to see some action, go Marines. Army is great if you want a land-based job but don't want to be a marine, but AF sucks. most AF jobs are behind desks, and that's barely even in the military. Just so ya know, when i graduate fromt he naval academy in may, i will hopefully be going marines.
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i just got back from the recruiter and the 3 jobs that i qualify for based on my degree would be:
-Navigator
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-or Space/Missles

so 2 of the 3 would require me being on a plane for my job. not too shabby.
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try to find another job and leave the military as your last option
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I'm a little biased, but don't go AF unless you love the desk. The navy has more pilots than the Air Force, so if you have the vision you can do that. I would recommend Navy or Marines, then army, with AF as a last resort. If you actually want to see some action, go Marines. Army is great if you want a land-based job but don't want to be a marine, but AF sucks. most AF jobs are behind desks, and that's barely even in the military. Just so ya know, when i graduate fromt he naval academy in may, i will hopefully be going marines.
What are you talking about??? Love the desk? And the Air Force has more pilots/flyers than all the other branches combined, hint the words "Air Force". The AF is not a desk job, atleast 1/2 of the AF is maintenance based, and the other half are services to serve us pilots/flyers/maintainers. See I think since you're in the Naval academy, they brainwash you just like the marines. I'm all for "branch pride" and all, but I think you're just a kid that doesn't know what he's talking about yet. Once you become a butterbar, then I'll listen to what you have to say, maybe.
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i just got back from the recruiter and the 3 jobs that i qualify for based on my degree would be:
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-or Space/Missles

so 2 of the 3 would require me being on a plane for my job. not too shabby.
Don't forget they have to do a Secret clearance check first before you can actually qualify for any of those jobs. And some of those jobs look like they require a Top Secret clearance also, so I hope you have a clean past.
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i have a degree in biology. as for desperation, it was always in my mind out of college but i wanted to try to find a career job first.
I was not questioning your education, just giving some advice. On your other thread u sounded upset 'caus u did not get that job, my advice was to think it trhough with a clear mind. If what u really want is a carrer job, don't give up. U will be rejected many times,but once u achieve your goal the satisfaction will be greater.
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I know, I have been trying since may and I am starting to run out of money from my savings account. I have a part time job but looking for a career is a full time job, so I am not making enought to make ends meet right now and I have to pull from savings each month in order to pay rent and bills and car, etc.

rob - my past is squeeky clean. never done drugs, arrested, etc. only have 3 traffic tickets on my record (2 rolling stop signs and one 82 in a 70.) So I think I should be fine.
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ya I think you should be fine, maybe.... They'll find out **** that you didn't even know you did, like you picked you nose with your middle finger at the president's old lady or something.
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Where and how are you looking for work?

Hitting just the websites, or have you been in touch with headhunters yet?




Joining the AF is a great way to get a start. I don't regret my 6+ years, and the work I did somehow got me a career job in the civilian world. I worked on Russian ZSU-23 AAA system simulators the whole time I was in.
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