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Old 10-02-2004, 05:32 PM   #36
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the Kyoto treaty should have been signed no matter under whos administration. that was a mistake for both clinton`s congress and Bush`s. now this was not my point, its that Bush used not signing in to the world court as an excuse not to join the kyoto treaty. now i dont think we should have joined the world court just b/c they would not seek the death penality.
WHAT?

I'm beginning to think you have gone past the ignorant stage.

Kyoto and the world court are unrelated, except in the minds of liberals. One's acceptance is not dependant on the other and it is the Prsident's job to ensure the United States best interests, not some third world lefty countries interests.

The basic reason that the US is not part of the world court is because it violates YOUR constitutional rights. You have a right under our constitution to appeal in our court systems. That would be eliminated in the world court system. You would have no constitutional guarantees. The morons that rail against the Patriot act and how it takes our rights away are the same morons hollering loudest to join the world court when it does even worse than the Patriot act ever could. The Patriot act is subject to our court systems review, as recently happened here. The world court has no such limitations.

WTF are they teaching you in school how to bleat like a sheep?

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Old 10-02-2004, 06:20 PM   #37
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WHAT?

Kyoto and the world court are unrelated,
exactly what i was saying, bush said here is another thing i didnt sign into, the world court. that answer makes no sense at all. they have no relation what so ever. get it?

and u didnt read my post, i said we should not be part of the world court.i think it is a terrible idea to be part of the world court. and u think it is a good idea to kill our environment to help our econ????? what good is money if we cant breath the air?u think it was a bad idea that the united states forced pollution controls on cars and factorys, even though it might hinder economic progress???? think of the future. and they are teaching me a lot in school, i am holding a 3.4 gpa in the a school in the top 50 in America, so save the jackass remarks.
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Old 10-02-2004, 07:17 PM   #38
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and u think it is a good idea to kill our environment to help our econ????? what good is money if we cant breath the air?
wow, even the X-TREME left wing senators voted against this and your argument has failed to accomplish your original goal of making Bush look like a moron for not signing it so your launching personal insults at people who are against it??? You must be an extreme enviormentalist judging by your above quote. Kyoto is not even an issue for anybody accept for way-extremists... let's move on
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if i truely beleived in the Kyoto treaty i would not be driving a car that gets 19 mpg in the city i would be driving a hybrid, ponycarman just insulted me. but i do think emissions should be reduced,yes i do.now is the kyoto treaty good for the us? no its not, it could hurt our economy but i do think the underlying ideas measure up to a good set of guidelines, but i think it would be more important to bring other countrys up to our standards and to eliminate the use of leaded fuels.
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