You guys are referring to supercharged cars blowing by nitrous cars when you run out of juice, but a nitrous car isn't going to run out of juice at the track. You definitely shouldn't be racing on the street with nitrous or a supercharger although its very tempting.
And btw, those cars that blew up could have done one thing that would have prevented all of that. I do this and suggest others do so as well. REMOVE the freakin bottle from the car when you don't need it in there lol. There's no need for a nitrous bottle to sit out in direct sunlight if you have no chance/need of spraying it.
Also, I'd say that I spend about $100 a year on nitrous because I only use it in the lightning for one, and two, its only to get the best times possible or to break my PB.
I won't argue nitrous vs. superchargers because its a losing battle both ways, but I do believe either car can be just as fast depending on what's done to them and who is driving. Nitrous can be just as dangerous or just as safe as a supercharger and there are safeguards for missing shifts, poor fuel, and poor driving in general that make it safer than it ever has been to go either way. It's all preference. Some people thinks its sweet to open the hood and see a blower, others want a sleeper nitrous look or like to see those hard lines running everywhere with a big shot.
I have basic bolt ons. My exterior is done. So the natural progression for me is to start with a power adder on the "baby" settings without building the motor. After reading through these pages I am leaning more towards the bottle for the reasons of cost and the relative ease of install vs a blower. Plus if I ever want to sell the car the nitrous system can be taken off and no one would know it was there. I can also take off the nitrous and change to a blower if I choose. That makes me feel better because I can test the waters. My .02
You guys crack me up. I'm not supporting a supercharger nor am I supporting nitrous but both sides are full of sh*t!
Aftermarket Superchargers are nothing but headaches between squeeling belts, check engine lights and terrible road manners. 3-6k for anything decent enough to feel and then let the issues begin.
Nitrous can be dangerous as well with fiery backfires and sometimes stuck solenoids which can lead to holes in the pistons and all kinds of problems as well. Not to mention 45 bucks to fill a bottle that might get you 3 or 4 decent- even pressure - passes.
Building your motor to make power normally aspirated is the key to longevity, and consistent power. Start with as many cubes as you can afford and build from there. But even then, there are a ton of limitations with factory based fuel injection systems.
I tried to make my mustang feel even remotely close to my normally aspirated, carbureted big block and as soon as the power goes up, the drive-ability goes to ****. It's too bad, but it's fact.
You guys crack me up. I'm not supporting a supercharger nor am I supporting nitrous but both sides are full of sh*t!
Aftermarket Superchargers are nothing but headaches between squeeling belts, check engine lights and terrible road manners. 3-6k for anything decent enough to feel and then let the issues begin.
Nitrous can be dangerous as well with fiery backfires and sometimes stuck solenoids which can lead to holes in the pistons and all kinds of problems as well. Not to mention 45 bucks to fill a bottle that might get you 3 or 4 decent- even pressure - passes.
Building your motor to make power normally aspirated is the key to longevity, and consistent power. Start with as many cubes as you can afford and build from there. But even then, there are a ton of limitations with factory based fuel injection systems.
I tried to make my mustang feel even remotely close to my normally aspirated, carbureted big block and as soon as the power goes up, the drive-ability goes to ****. It's too bad, but it's fact.
Rapinator...I tried to PM you, but looks like your inbox is full...can you PM me your phone number so I can call you to discuss? You seem to be a very troubled young man and I may be able to help you.
Sounds like a bunch of people who have had install problems to me.. Sucks for you guys! But this is the reason why people that actually know what they are talking about leave this forum. I've considered myself.. Unfortunately
I got this app a long time ago just for the classifieds but starting watchin the post and there were a lot of good people in here. Now it seems as though every one is out to troll threads that are serious
The 2015 mustang sounds great but I'm not sold on the looks , it seems they are heading towards a euro style look and abandoning the heritage of the mustang , to be honest I don't even like the 2012 and up I mean they are ok but I prefer my s197 I think they nailed the styling a heritage look yet modern with straight tail lights like the 67-68 Fastback GT.
If one looks at the Porsche 911 over the years very subtle styling cues were added but the original design never strayed far way , I think they should be commended for building a great sports car a job well done. Ford could learn a thing or two from them.
That being said I will improve my ride as I am doing now my e-force package it will arrive at my door within a week or so. Ford needs to realize that sales of a vehicle are 90% influenced on the LOOK first , performance is secondary as that can always be improved with the aftermarket. Just my 2 c .
The 2015 mustang sounds great but I'm not sold on the looks , it seems they are heading towards a euro style look and abandoning the heritage of the mustang , to be honest I don't even like the 2012 and up I mean they are ok but I prefer my s197 I think they nailed the styling a heritage look yet modern with straight tail lights like the 67-68 Fastback GT.
That being said I will improve my ride as I am doing now my e-force package it will arrive at my door within a week or so. Ford needs to realize that sales of a vehicle are 90% influenced on the LOOK first , performance is secondary as that can always be improved with the aftermarket. Just my 2 c .
The mustang is a legendary MUSCLE car , not some EURO vehicle , they are turning there backs on it's past from the prototypes I have seen , I really don't see Mustang in there ????
But I guess the final version has not yet been released so it may not be as bad as I think....
I definitely can feel what your saying about the next generation rumor mill renditions however let's be fair and honest. Ford will not make 100 % of us mustang enthusiasts and non enthusiasts happy and in love with the next generation stang. Ford will gain new mustang customers, Ford will loose mustang customers and Ford will keep some of the same mustang customers. That's the nature of the beast.
I'm sure each time the next generation mustang came out, you had mustang enthusiasts of the prior generation stangs not happy. I'm sure when Ford got rid of the Fox body style mustangs many of the fox body enthusiasts were all up in arms. I'm sure some die hard Fox body fans stayed with the fox body and never purchased another mustang therefore Ford lost a mustang customer. In the same token, I'm sure Ford gained customers for people who did not like the fox body.
If you like your S197 then just keep it. Don't buy the new 2015 stang. I went for my 2011 mustang because I don't care for the 09 and under body styles but that's just me. Its just personal preference and different strokes for different folks. Thank goodness were not all alike and we have different likes and dislikes.
From the most recent renditions I have seen I like the look of the next generation stang but to each there own. Lol. You posted a picture and said you would buy it if that was the 2015 mustang. You and thousands may buy that but how many thousands more wouldn't buy that. Ford is looking to increase sales. A company understands a loss in customers is always certain but as long as you gain more than you loose that's the goal and acceptable.
A 500rwhp 3v for under 5k will never happen. The only way I would even try doing this is if you bought a roush stage 3 or Saleen spec 3 with a built bottom end in it. 500rwhp will leave any stock 3v motor wanting to spew its innards all over the road the first time you put your foot into it.
On the other hand, you can buy a Paxton blower for a coyote for $3800 from beefcake and get some used injectors and a fuel pump for another $1200 or so and then you can make 600rwhp no problem. I've seen a bunch of coyotes driving around with 600rwhp on the stock motor and it seems to me if its a manual it breaks the Trans first and if it's an auto it messes up the rear end first.
Not true , I just bought a e-force almost brand new 1000 miles on it for 3250 $ a great deal with edelbrock performance air intake , kenne bell boost a pump , 3.5 pulley , the guy did a dyno and was making 440 to 450 rwhp same car as mine.
That being said getting an extra 50 Hp out of the e-force will not be hard at all
I'll buy a 3.00 pulley that should take care of it . 500 RWHP is about the max
I would go with a stock set up engine/trans up BUT the e-force is capable of MUCH MORE. I have done a LOT of reading on this topic so I know what I'm talking about.
My daily driver tune, all day every day, is right now at 494 RWHP. That is with a Roush TVS blower, 3.47" pulley, Mac longtube headers, high flow cats, Mac ProChamber, and Borla Stinger mufflers. It takes 9 PSI to make that number.
I know of 5 guys making 475-505 RWHP on the stock block with a TVS. Every one of us has kept the engine together for at least nine months so far, some (like myself) are over a year, and I know Nasty has to be near a year and a half already.
It is all in the tune!
Oh, and my car is driven hard...I've got drag racing passes on it and I rarely drive it anywhere without flooring it at some point and running it at full boost up to redline.
With that said, your path to bullet-proof reliable daily power at the 500RWHP+ mark should be with a supercharger and a forged 4.6 mod motor. You don't need a bigger, more expensive motor unless you want 650-700 RWHP. A 4.6 will do 550 TO 600 RWHP all day every day when forged and blown.
So like I said 500RWHP is about the MAX for safety reasons without going FORGED INTERNALS.
Bro, your obviously a troll/jealous of him, a forged 5.0L coyote engine( what rapinator has) will hold up to the 600HP+ nitrous shots, quite easily, and most drivetrain parts will be able to take that also. ---------- Post added at 05:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:13 PM ----------
A quote from a fellow 4.6 L OWNER. My daily driver tune, all day every day, is right now at 494 RWHP. That is with a Roush TVS blower, 3.47" pulley, Mac longtube headers, high flow cats, Mac ProChamber, and Borla Stinger mufflers. It takes 9 PSI to make that number. I know of 5 guys making 475-505 RWHP on the stock block with a TVS. Every one of us has kept the engine together for at least nine months so far, some (like myself) are over a year, and I know Nasty has to be near a year and a half already. It is all in the tune! Oh, and my car is driven hard...I've got drag racing passes on it and I rarely drive it anywhere without flooring it at some point and running it at full boost up to redline. With that said, your path to bullet-proof reliable daily power at the 500RWHP+ mark should be with a supercharger and a forged 4.6 mod motor. You don't need a bigger, more expensive motor unless you want 650-700 RWHP. A 4.6 will do 550 TO 600 RWHP all day every day when forged and blown. So like I said 500RWHP is about the MAX for safety reasons without going FORGED INTERNALS.
You are RETARDED, rapinator has a Coyote, wait, you probably don't know that that is, it's the 5.0L, nor the 4.6 your talking about. ---------- Post added at 05:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:15 PM ----------
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So I will make one last post and the 5.0 sucks sorry AND for the last time
the thread said SUPERCHARGER it DID NOT SAY SUPERCHARGER 5.0 sorry
NEXT TIME TITLE IT APPROPRIATELY
AND CHECK OUT THIS LINK HA... 1000 HP 4.6 L bye bye 5.0
"and today the sky’s almost the limit when it comes to building a big-power 4.6 or 5.4." that is from your article , and that's my whole POINT if one throw enough money into a 4.6 or 5.0 or even 5.8 all can become MONSTER ENGINES ... ALL
5.0 owners just think the are superior when in reality they are in the middle of the bunch if I really wanted a drag car I would swap my motor for a 5.8 L race engine not a punny 5.0 that being said the 5.0 is a good motor so is the 4.6 2 to 4v
both can produce a lot of power depending on how much money one would like to spend.
I'm quite happy with 500RWHP for a daily driver with my BLOWN 4.6 3 V
Forged I could get much more with higher boost but I don't drag race so
I think 600 or so hp at the crank is plenty for a daily driver.
In the end these Ford engines are all good and there is no need to cut down
what is under your hood or be rude as some posters here have been because
they think the 5.0 is the KING of engines IT IS NOT SORRY . It's in the middle of the pack like I said. The KING IS the 5.8 RACE ENGINE. Remember that.
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