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Chunky shifts w/manual transmission

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#1 ·
I don't know how to explain this but when I shift its not smooth, it doesn't grind gears but its like the shifter is loose. On my cobra it's crazy smooth but my sixxer it's rough, would a new shifter help? The current shifter is stock
 
#5 ·
Take of the plastic panel and them the rubber/ metal panel and check. But I bet it's your transmission . I'm in shape and I can still shift good and I recently installed a steeda tri axl and it started to shift a little better but our synchronizers are shot . So take it easy on your transmission
 
#6 ·
V6stang6272 said:
Take of the plastic panel and them the rubber/ metal panel and check. But I bet it's your transmission . I'm in shape and I can still shift good and I recently installed a steeda tri axl and it started to shift a little better but our synchronizers are shot . So take it easy on your transmission
Yeah I think the synchro is goin out cuz when I shift from 4-5 too fast it's grind
 
#7 ·
twotone01 said:
Yeah I think the synchro is goin out cuz when I shift from 4-5 too fast it's grind
My synchro's are goin out and all it is doing is its hard to get in gear( like first and reverse mainly).

I wouldn't describe it as loose at all. Sounds like you got a loose shifter. Change it out, it's always a nice mod :D

I even got the cheap short throw from AM and it's still so much better than stock.
 
#9 ·
V6 stang said:
My synchro's are goin out and all it is doing is its hard to get in gear( like first and reverse mainly).

I wouldn't describe it as loose at all. Sounds like you got a loose shifter. Change it out, it's always a nice mod :D

I even got the cheap short throw from AM and it's still so much better than stock.
We actually have a service announcement from a few years ago for this issue, ill look it up, but if i remember correctly its not synchro related
 
#10 ·
For the manual not shifting into first or reverse from neutral/ a complete stop, it wouldn't be synchro related, seeing how synchros are only used on forward moving gears to make the operation of one gear hitting another smoother. If you had said from first to second or so forth, then i would believe a synchro would be the culprit, but, since reverse is also involved your problem lies elsewhere, more than likely your clutch quadrant may be bending, making your clutch not fully disengage. As for the grinding into 5th its a common issue ive seen going from 3rd to 5th with the drastic change in ratios, and with it usually being at a higher speed. This, may very well be a synchro related issue though
 
#11 ·
ForsakenProto said:
For the manual not shifting into first or reverse from neutral/ a complete stop, it wouldn't be synchro related, seeing how synchros are only used on forward moving gears to make the operation of one gear hitting another smoother. If you had said from first to second or so forth, then i would believe a synchro would be the culprit, but, since reverse is also involved your problem lies elsewhere, more than likely your clutch quadrant may be bending, making your clutch not fully disengage. As for the grinding into 5th its a common issue ive seen going from 3rd to 5th with the drastic change in ratios, and with it usually being at a higher speed. This, may very well be a synchro related issue though
Weird. The mechanic said It was something in the trans (I thought he said synchro's?). My car has 140k on it so I figured he was prolly right.. I got him to check my clutch and he said it was basically brand new. Weird. When I crank mine up if I keep the clutch it then it goes into reverse just fine. If I release the clutch then push it back in, it's very hard to get into reverse, like there's a blockage. I had to put all my strength to jam it in or I just try to normally put it in, then back it out, and repeat. I also put my car in neutral at red lights and when I push clutch in, it's really hard to get into first. I had to put my weight on it steadily until it finally gets through that blockage and actually gets into first.
 
#12 ·
ISSUE:
Some 1999-2004 Mustang vehicles equipped with a T5, T45 or TR3650 manual transmission, may exhibit a hard to shift condition into first or reverse gears from a stop. This may be due to an incomplete disengagement of the clutch (lack of clutch pedal reserve).

ACTION:
Refer to the following Service Procedure. It may be necessary to adjust the clutch pedal down-stop and the clutch pedal shaft nut to gain full pedal travel.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

Lift up on the clutch pedal to reset it.
Measure the clutch reserve per the instructions listed in the Workshop Manual Section 308-00, Diagnosis and Testing, Manual Transmission and Clutch.
NOTE: THE MINIMUM RESERVE NEEDED FOR GT, LX AND 1999-2001 COBRA IS 19 MM (3/4").



If the measurement obtained is larger than these values, DO NOT CONTINUE WITH THIS TSB. Follow normal Workshop Manual diagnostics listed in Section 308-03.
If the measurement obtained is less than these values, make sure that the floor mat or excessive material under the carpet is not preventing the pedal from reaching its full travel. Correct any obstruction, if the condition is corrected return the vehicle to the customer. If the condition is not corrected proceed to Step 3.
Visually examine the pedal down-stop to see if it is preventing the pedal from reaching its full travel to the carpet. Correct if necessary by removing the rubber pad on the down-stop. If the condition is corrected return the vehicle to the customer. If the condition is not corrected proceed to Step 4.
Additional travel can be obtained by loosening the clutch pedal shaft nut and adjusting as needed per Section 308-00 of the Workshop Manual. If the condition is corrected return the vehicle to the customer. If the condition is not corrected proceed to Step 5.
If inadequate reserve is still present refer to Workshop Manual Section 308-00 for clutch pressure plate and disc diagnostics.

If you need any more info ill be glad to pull it up for ya. This is a Ford Technical Service Bulletin sent out in 04
 
#13 ·
So you telling me this could be a problem that doesn't have to do with my transmission? It would be great to not have to replace my trans. Like 2 grand.

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Btw I have heard about liftin your pedal to reset your clutch.. I've done that and it doesn't do anything.
 
#14 ·
V6 stang said:
So you telling me this could be a problem that doesn't have to do with my transmission? It would be great to not have to replace my trans. Like 2 grand.

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Btw I have heard about liftin your pedal to reset your clutch.. I've done that and it doesn't do anything.
Just lifting it wont do anything, someone whos had experience with it will have to measure the cable and see if it's stretched over the years. If so, then its gonna need to be adjusted
 
#15 ·
ForsakenProto said:
Just lifting it wont do anything, someone whos had experience with it will have to measure the cable and see if it's stretched over the years. If so, then its gonna need to be adjusted
So if I brought it to a mechanic, he could do this and you think it would most likely fix my transmission problems? I thought this whole time my synchro's were going out and my trans was just dying.
 
#18 · (Edited)
My car has a 01 trans in it and does that exact blockage thing when shifting into 1st or reverse at a complete stop sometimes.. so someone told me i need to adjust the clutch pedal .. and the way to do it is to turn the ignition off.. put the gear in first ... and pump the clutch a couple times till you hear a click... when i do that the gears shift really smooth but then eventually go back then i do it again... this is what i was told and ive tried it and it works for me
 
#20 ·
My clutch pedal is also considerably hard to push in when compared to my gf's 03 mustang. Any ideas on why that's the case? Could it be link to this also?
 
#25 ·
Azure said:
^This is really the only way to force a change in the auto adjust factory quadrant setup. Try it, you might like it. :)
Alright I will try it out. In afraid of not doing it right and messing somethin up lol. But if its not my trans then I need to figure it out before I go spending 2 grand on it...
 
#26 ·
So I took a picture of what I figure is y stock quadrant. One engaged ones not. What exactly am I suppose to pull and hold on to while letting the clutch out slowly?

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