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Pictures of new design UPR catch can.

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#1 ·
Today I received the new design UPR catch can. On their website they have it under the 2015 5.0 Mustang but when I called they said it works on the 11-14 5.0 as well. I don't have a picture of it installed on the car yet as the car is stored at another location for the winter but I will take the can there in a few days and install it and take pictures.

Here are some pictures of the inside of the can as well as the lines and quick connect and one picture of it next to their classic design can.



 
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#117 ·
It's a difficult proposition to develop a product that is perfect as evidenced by three customers having three different results. Having a can that is flexible in configuration is really making sence to me now.
Exactly, that is why the modular design / flexible took so long to release. I wanted to be sure every situation we encounter or gets throw at us can be solved with just tweaking our system. I have put so much time into the design to allow this and it has proven to be our biggest advantage.

With that being said it would be a nightmare for anyone to keep having to buy improved cans or different models. So this is the reason for the complexity and flexibility of our system. To make sure we have our customers budget and best interest at the top of the list.

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#116 ·
Either way I'm happy to have a can from the USA that is still being improved.

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#118 ·
Hey Joe I have another 100 miles on the car with the UPR and not a drop of oil. Any ideas why not? I just hit 10500 miles on the car. When I drive it I get on it often. It smells like oil in the can but not even the walls are wet. The oil I use is what ever Ford put in. Maybe I don't get a lot of blow by. Mmmm

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#120 ·
Hey Joe I have another 100 miles on the car with the UPR and not a drop of oil. Any ideas why not? I just hit 10500 miles on the car. When I drive it I get on it often. It smells like oil in the can but not even the walls are wet. The oil I use is what ever Ford put in. Maybe I don't get a lot of blow by. Mmmm
Please do share pictures of the install and which way the arrow is on the check valve to be sure everything is setup properly. The system should start showing signs of oil very quick.

Joe
 
#119 ·
Can you post a picture of how your can and hoses are setup. On another forum a guy posted a picture of his and he had the hose with the one way check valve in it on the wrong side of the can.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't have any sign of oil and even if your rings are seated very well, you would still get some oil in the can as no rings will seal 100%

Check the quick connect that attaches to your PCV valve. Does it show any signs of oil there?

Wayne
 
#121 ·
ok im at work right now but I will post some pictures ASAP. Car is not ideling any different. Runs fine.
 
#122 · (Edited)
Here is the bottom and internals taken out. but still hooked up.
Pcv looks damp but the inside of the hose is dry.
Not the best lighting but inside the pcv looks kinda dry. But it still has just a little oil on the walls.
And the can after 200 miles is dry as the day I got it. .

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#123 · (Edited)
This is how my pcv looks inside. Is this the correct order of how the valve and sping go? Cause this is how it came out. The driver side is the stock vacuum hose.

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#124 ·
That is very strange. After 200 miles of driving on my car, pretty much everything inside the can was wet with oil except the screen on the middle diffuser.

Wayne
 
#125 ·
Send me one for a Cyclone pony

Interesting product, I would like to try this can. A. Hunter P.O. Box 808 Seadrift,Tx. 77983
 

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#126 ·
I would check the flow. Disconnect the hose to the pcv start car and see if you are getting vacuum through the system. If yes, pull out pcv and attach to the hose are you getting vacuum through pcv. If yes, system should be working. Trying to rule out bad check valve in hose that is off the intake and or bad pcv valve.

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#127 ·
Okay so I started the car disconnected the hose that connects on top of the PCV valve and there's no air coming out while the car is idling. I've then unscrewed the PCV valve and took that out with the same results, no air coming out of the hole at idle.

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#128 · (Edited)
After removing the hose on the driver side it seems like there's more oil in this hose then on the passenger side. I caped off the CAI nipple so when I start the car no unmetered air makes it idle differently. And then I disconnected the hose from the driver side valve cover and there is air coming out of this side if I put my finger over the hole for a couple seconds then let it off you can hear the air escape.
 
#129 ·
After removing the hose on the driver side it seems like there's more oil in this hose then on the passenger side.

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I believe there is an issue some where in the system because the drivers side tube should be drawing in ambient air from outside. On my car it is hooked to the air intake just in front of the throttle body (I've to an Airaid CAI)...........and if it is wet with oil the oil must be coming from the motor and going into the intake.
 
#130 ·
I don't see how my car is untouched. How would the air just reverse from pushing air on the side that should suck air?

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#131 · (Edited)
When I start the car and unhook the driver side hose that hooks on the CAI there is a vacuum pulling in on the intake nipple. It's just before the throttle body so that makes sense right? So how would the driver side suck at the valve cover when air is being sucked when it's hooked up before the TB? It makes sense that the valve cover on driver side pushes air as the hose that it's hooked to helps pull air into the intake just before the TB.
 
#132 ·
When I start the car and unhook the driver side hose that hooks on the CAI there is a vacuum pulling in. It's just before the throttle body so that makes sense right? So how would the driver side suck air when it's hooked up before the TB?
Joe can explain this better than I can, but the PCV system is meant to bring air into the motor (on the Coyote at the drivers side from the cold air intake flow) and draw it out through the passenger side and into the can and then into the intake. As long as the motor is sealed..........the PCV system will create a vacuum.
It almost sounds like there is a vacuum leak somewhere and/or the PCV system is plugged or non-functional. So, if the drivers side is pulling not pulling air in but pushing oil out, then something on the PCV side has to be plugged or there is a vacuum leak somewhere.................maybe Joe has run across this before..............
 
#133 ·
How much vacuum is coming from the connection on the front of the intake manifold where the check valve connects to ? This is the connection that comes from the exit of the catch can and goes to the manifold. Try it with and without the hose connected and put your finger over the hole to see how fast it builds vacuum.

Joe
 
#134 · (Edited)
Joe it has a strong vacuum at the point you told me to check. But I think I found the problem. This hose that came with the UPR only pushes air 1 way it seems. I can blow in the hose and air passes threw but if I blow from the other end it won't. Maybe the hose is backwards?

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#135 ·
Well that must have been it. I flipped the hose and now the driver side SUCKS air in at the valve cover. Wth lol.

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#136 ·
If you look close at the check valve you will see the directional arrow that indicates the air flow. I figured that was the case and am very glad that everyone here was so helpful with their interaction and true concern.

Thank you guys, this is what makes a quality forum and good fun for everyone.

Joe
 
#138 ·
Yeah I didn't see the little arrow till I took the hose off and started inspecting it. No wonder I had no oil in the can lol. I'm guessing the driver side pushed out air because that was the path of least resistance. But now it seems to be working. With the car started I can disconnect one of the quick disconnects on the can and there's vacuum unlike before.

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#139 ·
Ok so from here on out I can start giving my review and updates on my oil catching. :) so do you think there was any ill effects sense it was not hooked up right for a few hundred miles? Could it have hurt performance? Should I clean my throttle body now that I know oil was being passed in to my intake in front of the TB?

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#140 ·
What it did was allow crankcase pressure to build. It could effect performance and push blow by out of gaskets or seals or at the oil cap. I've had it happen on my 77 blazer and noticed when a leak appeared. Should be just fine you caught it quick.

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#141 ·
Well, today I decided to check the hoses and quick connect on my UPR can and see what it was doing. I had driven 239 miles since I posted my findings and pictures last time and since I had switched the flow back to it going through the middle diffuser and coming out through the C shape area. I couldn't get very good pictures this time but I did find oil in the quick connect again and it had some milky color to it as well.

I had the can on for a total of 501 miles and the amount of oil in the can was from the entire time. It collected right at 1/4 oz of oil. Here are the pics.




I took the can off and put my Bob's can back on for the time being until Joe comes out with the next two stages that are planned.

Wayne

---------- Post added at 05:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ----------

Well, today I decided to check the hoses and quick connect on my UPR can and see what it was doing. I had driven 239 miles since I posted my findings and pictures last time and since I had switched the flow back to it going through the middle diffuser and coming out through the C shape area. I couldn't get very good pictures this time but I did find oil in the quick connect again and it had some milky color to it as well.

I had the can on for a total of 501 miles and the amount of oil in the can was from the entire time. It collected right at 1/4 oz of oil. Here are the pics.




I took the can off and put my Bob's can back on for the time being until Joe comes out with the next two stages that are planned.

Wayne
 
#142 ·
Thank you for the update. I love to see the feedback as the new filters are to combat the excessive heat in that location. I have almost finished the new remote mounts for the 5028-98 Single Valve Catch Cans. Removing much of the heat factor and issue with short lines that allows the oil to stay suspended in the air stream. So here is a sneak peek at the new bracket system and hose package for the remote mount upgrade package.

Everyone, check it out and let me know what you think of it.

I have been working hard to deliver a bracket system that matches the quality and performance of our systems. Relocating the system a much higher airflow path that allows the can to run at less than half the temperature of the Radiator hose location and forcing the oil to fall out of suspension and giving you the absolute sturdiest mounting system available. I have also made sure to utilize our new quick release knob so the system can be removed in less than 60 seconds to be serviced.

https://plus.google.com/111368442576496538340/posts/83ESW4g4m8S

Joe
 
#143 ·
The bracket system looks good. That is on a 2015 GT Mustang. Where would it mount for the 11-14 GT Mustang? Also, How would I go about getting a new top since my can was one of the first ones delivered here and I don't have the mounting holes in my top? Thanks.

Wayne
 
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