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Janks 09-11-2013 12:49 PM

Turboing my stang
 
Ok so I'm new to the forums and need help with what I need to do to my engine to have it support 400rwhp because that's all I need. Everything is stock except for a cold air intake and a flow master exhaust.

The turbo kit I was looking at only has the
turbo
inter cooler
blow of valve
boost control
feed & return line

But even though I know nothing about modding an engine, I do know if i just put the kit on my engine it will blow up. So what I really need is a list of things that I need to upgrade.

I'm on a very limited budget and I drive an 02 mustang gt with 127000 miles as my daily

Mile high JDF 09-11-2013 12:53 PM

First of all welcome to the forums!! Post up some pics!

Now to your question, what kit are you looking at buying? Based off what you posted you will still need hot side and cold side piping and a fuel system also. Are you dead set on a turbo? Cause you can piece together a Vortech supercharger kit for $1500 and then all you would need is a tune.
Is it manual or automatic?

Janks 09-11-2013 01:08 PM

Thanks for the welcome. Well the kit is off eBay for only $700 and all I need or want us 400rwhp to smoke some of my friends and have fun. It's a stick and I don't care at all if its turbo or supercharged but its just I thought that the kit was cheap. Here's a link for the kit http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=400456898870

lowflyn 09-11-2013 01:17 PM

You will easily spend another $1500 having that kit installed, fuel system and tune. That's not counting a new turbo in 6 months when that piece of garbage goes out.

sam62893 09-11-2013 01:22 PM

I've heard nothing but horror stories about eBay turbos. Those are for Hondas. Save your money for a dependable known turbo and a professional install that way you have no problems and won't have to replace your engine in a few months

Kevo91 09-11-2013 01:25 PM

Stay away from the ebay turbo kits my friend, they are cheap for a reason.

Mile high JDF 09-11-2013 01:27 PM

+1 to what those guys said. The Ebay kits are junk. Your best bet for a cheap setup is piecing together a Vortech.

Janks 09-11-2013 01:34 PM

So what would u suggest that is not to expensive but can get the job done and, like u mentioned, last. Btw it's only 400 rwhp

can u provide links

Kevo91 09-11-2013 01:38 PM

Do you have a gt or cobra? If you have a 2v gt, obtaining 400 rwhp wont be cheap or easy no matter which route you go

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Sorry yeah i just saw the gt in the description. You wont make 400 horse cheap, hate to say it

sam62893 09-11-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Janks (Post 1793251)
So what would u suggest that is not to expensive but can get the job done and, like u mentioned, last. Btw it's only 400 rwhp

can u provide links

It can get the job done, yes but it will also cost you a new engine down the line

Mile high JDF 09-11-2013 01:51 PM

http://www.sn95forums.com/showthread...tech-Kit-Guide

Janks 09-11-2013 02:00 PM

I thought the stock engines can safely hold 400rwh

lowflyn 09-11-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janks
I thought the stock engines can safely hold 400rwh

Not forever, especially with 125k miles. I wouldn't expect more than 40k without needing a new shortblock.

straybullitt 09-11-2013 03:14 PM

Do you want to know the, relatively, cheap and easy path to 400 rwhp?
Wait untill the 2015's come out and buy a two or three year old Coyote powered Mustang.
It's ridiculous how much faster they are than our bolt-on cars... Bone stock.
And with a few bolt-ons, BANG...400+ rwhp. Reliably.

In a few years, when the 5.0s are as inexpensive and available as the New Edges, all of us "hold outs" are going to be getting our asses handed to us by the folks driving Coyote's.

I had a little taste of this last Sunday... :)

Janks 09-11-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by straybullitt (Post 1793316)
Do you want to know the, relatively, cheap and easy path to 400 rwhp?
Wait untill the 2015's come out and buy a two or three year old Coyote powered Mustang.
It's ridiculous how much faster they are than our bolt-on cars... Bone stock.
And with a few bolt-ons, BANG...400+ rwhp. Reliably.

In a few years, when the 5.0s are as inexpensive and available as the New Edges, all of us "hold outs" are going to be getting our asses handed to us by the folks driving Coyote's.

I had a little taste of this last Sunday... :)




Aren't they pretty expensive tho and will they need to be specially fitted to fit in the 02 gt

Janks 09-11-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lowflyn (Post 1793298)

Not forever, especially with 125k miles. I wouldn't expect more than 40k without needing a new shortblock.

Would it be cheaper to upgrade internals instead of buying a new engine

straybullitt 09-11-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Janks (Post 1793321)
Aren't they pretty expensive tho and will they need to be specially fitted to fit in the 02 gt

Yes. The swap is expensive.

But I'm talking about buying the whole car.
Trust me on this. You'll be money ahead in the long run.

A swap is another alternative though. Again, in a few years when more of the cars get wrecked and, otherwise, used up, the engines will become less expensive and more readily available.

Janks 09-11-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by straybullitt (Post 1793329)

Yes. The swap is expensive.

But I'm talking about buying the whole car.
Trust me on this. You'll be money ahead in the long run.

A swap is another alternative though. Again, in a few years when more of the cars get wrecked and, otherwise, used up, the engines will become less expensive and more readily available.

I really would want to keep my car for a long time just increase the hp. But ok so then what would the cheapest but good way to get close to 400rwhp under 5g. If its close to 5g then ill have to make a 4-5 year plan to save up the money. If its definitely over 5g then I think ill just have to w8 till I'm out of college and get a better job lol.

Soccerluvr4 09-11-2013 04:10 PM

If you want a reliable turbo system you are looking at over $6k.
You can piece together a vortech kit for around $1500, but that doesn't include the custom dyno tune you will need after that. And i would not recommend going past 350rwhp on that because it will be non-intercooled.

There is a saying when it comes to modding for more horsepower:

Cheap - Reliable - Fast
Pick 2

Rapinator126 09-11-2013 04:11 PM

You can get a boss crate motor for a little over 8k.

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Just do that. New motor over 400hp

straybullitt 09-11-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Janks (Post 1793333)
I really would want to keep my car for a long time just increase the hp. But ok so then what would the cheapest but good way to get close to 400rwhp under 5g. If its close to 5g then ill have to make a 4-5 year plan to save up the money. If its definitely over 5g then I think ill just have to w8 till I'm out of college and get a better job lol.

I'm probably not going to run out and buy a 5.0 either...:)

Forged rotating assembly with the correct pistons for supercharging, and, of course, the supercharger and related components.
Id say that if you do the work yourself, and , you are thrifty without being foolish, 5 grand should get you to well over 400 hp.
BUT, we'll see what the other guys say...

That is just the beginning, though. From the looks of your mod list, you still have a ways to go with bolt-ons.
And then there's the suspension, to put all that power to the ground...

It's never "cheap" my friend...

Janks 09-11-2013 04:22 PM

I was told not to waste my money on bolt ons if I want 400rwhp and instead save for a better engine or turbo/supercharger

straybullitt 09-11-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Janks (Post 1793355)
I was told not to waste my money on bolt ons if I want 400rwhp and instead save for a better engine or turbo/supercharger

You were given excellent advice, but, some of the bolt-ons are necessary to support the supercharger...

Janks 09-11-2013 04:40 PM

So then I should definitely get an engine swap if I want 400 or more hp?

straybullitt 09-11-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janks (Post 1793362)
So then I should definitely get an engine swap if I want 400 or more hp?

Yes... If you want it to be reliable.

Janks 09-11-2013 04:52 PM

Then what are my options. Can u guys start giving me more specific options please

Mile high JDF 09-11-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Janks (Post 1793371)
Then what are my options. Can u guys start giving me more specific options please

Well you can build your motor, boost it until it blows, or you can swap in a different motor. It's all up to you and what you want to prioritize. You could buy a supercharger and then build a motor on the side or vice versa.

KoolPwny 09-11-2013 08:43 PM

So would a procharger or vortech be too much for a bolt on gt with like 120k mi ??

White03GT 09-11-2013 08:49 PM

Just do a termi swap or lightning swap

Janks 09-11-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White03GT (Post 1793642)
Just do a termi swap or lightning swap

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=300902160841

Is this what ur talking about because that's not that expensive.

Mile high JDF 09-11-2013 09:22 PM

Yeah that's a lightning motor. They are cool swaps but it's gonna be a tight squeeze to get that sucker in there.

White03GT 09-11-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JDF (Post 1793685)
Yeah that's a lightning motor. They are cool swaps but it's gonna be a tight squeeze to get that sucker in there.

Not too bad. Just gotta get a cowl unless you feel like running around with a cut hood. Everything else is fairly simple

Mile high JDF 09-11-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by White03GT (Post 1793742)

Not too bad. Just gotta get a cowl unless you feel like running around with a cut hood. Everything else is fairly simple

Yeah that's true. Aren't the 5.4 swaps the ones that need the master cylinder reservoir relocation?

sam62893 09-11-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by White03GT (Post 1793742)

Not too bad. Just gotta get a cowl unless you feel like running around with a cut hood. Everything else is fairly simple

Even then lol

straybullitt 09-11-2013 11:58 PM

^ Sweet Jesus!!! :eek:
I was actually considering that swap...


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