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Sterling S197 04-20-2016 10:41 AM

Minor V6 Maintenance... Thank You & Rant
 
Today, I did some minor maintenance on my 2014 V6 - Installed the updated degas hose and rear axle vent, changed engine and cabin air filters. First, I want to say "Thank You" to my fellow forum members for posting about the hose & vent, especially for providing part numbers! Made the process a lot easier.... which will be explained in my rant:

Rant: The local Ford dealer (who shall remain nameless) was clueless about the two updated items. They said their computer would show the old and new part #'s if there were updated parts, but it only displayed one number. I had to come back home, find the numbers for the updated parts, and then they were able to order them without problem. Not sure about the degas hose, but I know the computer was showing the old axle vent. :nonono:

Rant #2: Axle vent: New vent has a 1/2" hex on it. Got the correct wrench, crawled under the car, tried to remove the old vent... and it has a 9/16" hex on it. :blink: Get out from under the car, go get another wrench. :facepalm:

Rant #3: Thought I would be smart when changing the hose to limit the amount of antifreeze I would spill. My plan was to take the hose off the tank, slip the clamp from the tank end of the old hose on the engine end of the new hose, then quickly pull off the old hose and immediately slide the new hose in place, without wasting any extra time transferring the hose clamp. Brilliant, right? Not so fast... I went to put the clamp on the tank end of the new hose, and found out it was too small. Just a little, not a lot. I then checked the clamp on the engine end... and it was j-u-s-t loose enough I could move it with my fingers. :banghead: Yep, had to switch them around... spilling a bit more coolant... and everything fit perfect.

The cabin air filter isn't the easiest thing to change either, but I got it done.

Rant over, thanks for the help everyone! :dance:

PS: Part Numbers...
Updated Degas Hose: ER3Z-8276-A
Updated Axle Vent: AR3Z-4A058-B

Mugeismo 04-20-2016 10:51 AM

Thanks for the heads up. I'll add this to my list of maintenance to do this summer. Is this the same hose that's responsible for water pump issues?

Sterling S197 04-20-2016 10:54 AM

Yes, it is supposed to prevent premature water pump failure.

tym_v6 04-20-2016 10:47 PM

^ I found the factory hose clamps to be a bit of a pain. I installed some Breeze adjustable hose clamps (in stainless) when swapping out the hose.

Brandonb2012 04-21-2016 07:22 AM

Rear axle vent?


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Sterling S197 04-21-2016 04:09 PM

Yes, it is located on top of the driver's side differential axle tube. Mine had been puking oil, making a mess on that axle tube. They also tend to stop up, which can lead to the pinion shaft seal leaking. The updated vent tube is supposed to address both issues.

DiESeven 04-21-2016 04:21 PM

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This is the part number my dealer quoted me. Attachment 200123


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wmschoonover 04-21-2016 05:17 PM

Is there a item number that is visible on the hose to tell if it is an old one? Bought my car used and would hate to buy a hose for nothing.

Sterling S197 04-21-2016 05:17 PM

DiESeven: The dealer did have that one listed as being a Shelby part. I think it would be even better than the one I got, but I stuck with the updated one since it appeared to be easier to install.

DiESeven 04-21-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling S197 (Post 2358661)
The dealer did have that one listed as being a Shelby part. I think it would be even better than the one I got, but I stuck with the updated one since it appeared to be easier to install.

They said it is covered under warranty so I'm going to bring it in next month when I do my Inspection and tell them to swap it out with that Shelby part.

Sterling S197 04-21-2016 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmschoonover (Post 2358660)
Is there a item number that is visible on the hose to tell if it is an old one? Bought my car used and would hate to buy a hose for nothing.

The new hose has a check valve, the old one doesn't. This thread has pics and descriptions of the hose: http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f356/t376184/

Sterling S197 04-21-2016 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiESeven (Post 2358662)
They said it is covered under warranty so I'm going to bring it in next month when I do my Inspection and tell them to swap it out with that Shelby part.

Sounds like a good plan to me!

NewMtang 04-21-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling S197 (Post 2358203)
Today, I did some minor maintenance on my 2014 V6 - Installed the updated degas hose and rear axle vent, changed engine and cabin air filters. First, I want to say "Thank You" to my fellow forum members for posting about the hose & vent, especially for providing part numbers! Made the process a lot easier.... which will be explained in my rant:

Rant: The local Ford dealer (who shall remain nameless) was clueless about the two updated items. They said their computer would show the old and new part #'s if there were updated parts, but it only displayed one number. I had to come back home, find the numbers for the updated parts, and then they were able to order them without problem. Not sure about the degas hose, but I know the computer was showing the old axle vent. :nonono:

Rant #2: Axle vent: New vent has a 1/2" hex on it. Got the correct wrench, crawled under the car, tried to remove the old vent... and it has a 9/16" hex on it. :blink: Get out from under the car, go get another wrench. :facepalm:

Rant #3: Thought I would be smart when changing the hose to limit the amount of antifreeze I would spill. My plan was to take the hose off the tank, slip the clamp from the tank end of the old hose on the engine end of the new hose, then quickly pull off the old hose and immediately slide the new hose in place, without wasting any extra time transferring the hose clamp. Brilliant, right? Not so fast... I went to put the clamp on the tank end of the new hose, and found out it was too small. Just a little, not a lot. I then checked the clamp on the engine end... and it was j-u-s-t loose enough I could move it with my fingers. :banghead: Yep, had to switch them around... spilling a bit more coolant... and everything fit perfect.

The cabin air filter isn't the easiest thing to change either, but I got it done.

Rant over, thanks for the help everyone! :dance:

PS: Part Numbers...
Updated Degas Hose: ER3Z-8276-A
Updated Axle Vent: AR3Z-4A058-B

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The Cabin filter is a ***** to Change, especially if you have MMD Bolt On Hood Strut Kit - Black (05-14 All), Item #41282, MPN# 41282.

You have to remove the passenger side and be careful not to bend the clamp to much, LIKE I DID! A BIG thanks to MMD. Another quality part that needs replacing. It's about time to use parts other than MMD. Since you have no direct way of calling MMD. I'll have to get ahold of Alex. He can help fix the poorly designed parts that Foose Sells! :censored:

Hawkstang 04-21-2016 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmschoonover (Post 2358660)
Is there a item number that is visible on the hose to tell if it is an old one? Bought my car used and would hate to buy a hose for nothing.

BR33-8C362-AA

Strange Mud 04-22-2016 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmschoonover (Post 2358660)
Is there a item number that is visible on the hose to tell if it is an old one? Bought my car used and would hate to buy a hose for nothing.

+1 on what others said....just look at it. about 3-4" up from where it attaches to top of overflow if it's the new one you'll see a small metal band and feel a check valve.

Mugeismo 04-22-2016 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkstang (Post 2358709)
BR33-8C362-AA

That's the faulty hose correct? Just trying to make sure we have clarification. Can never make things too simple.

Hawkstang 04-22-2016 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugeismo (Post 2358847)
That's the faulty hose correct? Just trying to make sure we have clarification. Can never make things too simple.

Yup

bamaboy2014 04-25-2016 04:49 AM

Here is my minor rant. Lol.... my car had 32k miles and 3 solenoids in the automatic transmission went bad. Good thing I had a extended warranty πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ

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Hawkstang 04-25-2016 06:16 AM

Why did you need an extented warranty? That should have been under powertrain correct?

rgwest61 04-25-2016 12:40 PM

Are indicated parts needed to be replaced on 2013 V6 Auto
 
I have a 2013 V6 coupe with auto tranny, are the indicated parts you replaced degas hose, and rear axle vent needed to be changed on my ride. If so, I am confused why my local Ford Dealership has not mentioned such changes.

Sterling S197 04-25-2016 02:59 PM

rgwest61, my understanding it that the degas hose and rear axle vent aren't recalls, they are only mentioned in the Technical Service Bulletins that address a couple of specific problems. Unless you have taken your car to the dealer for a water pump failure or fluid leaking from the rear axle, the dealer won't volunteer to replace the old parts with updated parts.

In my particular case, I wanted to avoid a premature water pump failure, so I replaced the degas hose myself. My car had issues with fluid coming out of the rear axle vent (a problem that is perhaps aggravated by *ahem* enthusiastic speeds) so I went ahead and replaced it while I was at it. I'm sure I could have got the dealer to install the axle vent, (since there was obviously fluid escaping from it) but I didn't want to mess with taking it in just for that... it is relatively cheap and simple to replace... assuming you have both wrenches.

I have a loooong road trip coming up soon, and wanted the car in tip-top condition for it.

rgwest61 04-25-2016 05:58 PM

Thanks for the update/explanation.

Strange Mud 04-26-2016 04:08 AM

Sterling nailed it....sometimes it's easier to do it yourself

bamaboy2014 04-26-2016 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkstang (Post 2359804)
Why did you need an extented warranty? That should have been under powertrain correct?

See the funny story is my 2011 Mustang went into somebody's hands January 2010 so my 50k year warranty expired in January 2015, but my car was the 103rd car to come off the lineπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ

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Shadetree43 04-28-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiESeven (Post 2358651)
This is the part number my dealer quoted me. Attachment 200123


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Ordered this from Tasca Ford on RI. $12.50 or so,free shipping.
Easy install, maybe 15 minutes preventive maintenance.

Hawkstang 04-28-2016 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadetree43 (Post 2361064)
Ordered this from Tasca Ford on RI. $12.50 or so,free shipping.
Easy install, maybe 15 minutes preventive maintenance.

I got it for $20. Took 7 mins to swap out. Awesome preventative that I never would have known if it werent for the fine members of ME!

wmschoonover 05-21-2016 04:58 AM

Was working on the car the other day and finally got around to checking this... Seems I got lucky and it already has one.

Finally something I don't have to change lol.


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Dcauchon 05-27-2016 08:02 PM

Would it be possible to see a pic to see how it looks ? Thanks


Airaid Bama tune/Hood strut/MBRP axel back/ Lower control harm (red)

Diehard 05-28-2016 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcauchon (Post 2371519)
Would it be possible to see a pic to see how it looks ? Thanks


Airaid Bama tune/Hood strut/MBRP axel back/ Lower control harm (red)

Attachment 201647

Dcauchon 05-28-2016 06:35 PM

Thanks but I meant for differential breather


Airaid Bama tune/Hood strut/MBRP axel back/ Lower control harm (red)

Shadetree43 05-28-2016 07:41 PM

DR3Z-4022-A

Cannot seem to get picture, but here's axle vent tube (breather). (price seems to have gone down)

Factory Direct OEM Ford, GM, Mazda, Mopar, Nissan and Volvo Parts & Accessories Online

Also search DR3Z-4022-A on eBay.

Very easy install in a few minutes.

Bigshow14 05-28-2016 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diehard (Post 2371753)

So I checked mine today and I have the one in this picture. Is this the updated hose?

Diehard 05-29-2016 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigshow14 (Post 2371819)
So I checked mine today and I have the one in this picture. Is this the updated hose?

Yes! Apparently there's a check valve located where the small clamp is shown on the left side.
My '14 doesn't have it.:confused:

Strange Mud 05-29-2016 07:24 AM

$20 for piece of mind or an entire pizza.

choose wisely

Bigshow14 05-29-2016 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Mud (Post 2371860)
$20 for piece of mind or an entire pizza.

choose wisely

Looks like I lucked up. Papa johns here I come :dance:


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