General Maintenance

red herring · 01-10-2005, 10:35 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by lowflyn Only thing I've ever had fall on me was a wrench from the top of the engine bay to the bottom where I was lol

Ouch, I've had that happen, plus when you get hurt and you're already frustrated it just pisses you off 10 thousand times more, haha

STEVE · 01-10-2005, 10:44 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by timpryor I've heard that if you dont change your tranny fluid at 30k intervals its less harmful to not change it at all

that is a little off, people say that because of the detergents that atf has, the new atf would clean all the build up on the trannys walls and clog some valves.
this does happen sometimes when the tranny is about to die. i have changed trannys fliud that never got changed in 120k and it ran great, never had a complain from that lady.

STEVE · 01-10-2005, 10:45 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Danger Dude no that is a old myth. The fact is if you never change it and the cluthes are burned up and worn you might notice the tranny slipping more if you change it. but this is only true on tranny's on there last leg!!!!

some times though it does happen if there is alot of varnish build up.

Danger Dude · 01-10-2005, 11:11 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by 232stang some times though it does happen if there is alot of varnish build up.

Like I said it the tranny is ready for a rebuild then you run into problems. If the tramnny is in good condition changing fluid will never cause a problem

Period end of statement

NO MORE MYTHS!!!

STEVE · 01-10-2005, 11:13 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Danger Dude Like I said it the tranny is ready for a rebuild then you run into problems. If the tramnny is in good condition changing fluid will never cause a problem Period end of statement NO MORE MYTHS!!!

yeah i know, but i was just saying that thats the reason why that mostly happens (the tranny messing up after the oil change), dude once there is varnish the tranny really is in need of a rebuild, it means some shit got burned.

lowflyn · 01-10-2005, 11:33 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Mill 0.052 I think.

And I got bored and went and looked under my hood, it's .052 to .056. Gonna change plugs out tom morning after class

dark · 01-11-2005, 08:39 AM

wixx filters > motorcraft > fram

Danger Dude · 01-11-2005, 08:57 AM

Motorcraft= Fram= just about any name brand oil filter. The fact is when you get past the hype all oil filters are layers of paper and perfoated metal in a metal can. There is no magic power increasing properties or some mystical magnetic field that one collects more than the other. I trust Fram and Motorcraft. But I have cut open Bosch, Purolater, Penske, Delco, STP, Mobil. and just about every major filter over the course of 20+ years and have found them all to be about the same. You can spend $2.95 all the way to $13.00 but spending $13.00 on a filter you are going to throw away in a few monts is just plain insane. Hell if you change the as recommended you will never run into problem with any of them.

lowflyn · 01-11-2005, 11:25 AM

Got a quick question..is this the sensor I am supposed to be cleaning and how do I clean it exactly...

lowflyn · 01-11-2005, 12:17 PM

Here's a few pics of my plugs...the driver's side was pretty bad, wearwise, the passenger side didn't look bad at all...hm..anything wrong here?

Danger Dude · 01-11-2005, 12:37 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by lowflyn Got a quick question..is this the sensor I am supposed to be cleaning and how do I clean it exactly...

Do not touch it with anything just spray Non Residue Contact Cleaner in the MAF and sensor till it is clean. do not scrub or anything like that. No need to dry it Non residue contact cleaner will dry quickly

lowflyn · 01-11-2005, 12:39 PM

Ha...too late on the cleaning part...I just put it all back together cuz I had to go pay some bills due today. I'll sit down some other day and do it. I did clean all the dirt out of my intake though...seems some passed through the filter, but it all clean now

stangin99 · 01-11-2005, 01:21 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Danger Dude Motorcraft= Fram= just about any name brand oil filter. The fact is when you get past the hype all oil filters are layers of paper and perfoated metal in a metal can. There is no magic power increasing properties or some mystical magnetic field that one collects more than the other. I trust Fram and Motorcraft. But I have cut open Bosch, Purolater, Penske, Delco, STP, Mobil. and just about every major filter over the course of 20+ years and have found them all to be about the same. You can spend $2.95 all the way to $13.00 but spending $13.00 on a filter you are going to throw away in a few monts is just plain insane. Hell if you change the as recommended you will never run into problem with any of them.

not true. There's a test online someone did over all the different brands of oil filters. There was several distinct differences between the brands and the amount of crap they filtered and/or deposited into the oil because of their design.

Danger Dude · 01:36 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by stangin99 not true. There's a test online someone did over all the different brands of oil filters. There was several distinct differences between the brands and the amount of crap they filtered and/or deposited into the oil because of their design.

No it is true Dont be fooled by adds and manufactures claim. The fact is whether you want to believe it or not. You take care of your car change the oil as recommended and replace the filter with any of the name brand filters and there is no real world differences in the level of protection your car receives. It is not like people pour dirt in with there oil. No matter what hype about a certain product all filters have paper filters sandwiched between perforated metal. If a filter will filter out minute particles that is all it has to do.

So in a nutshell you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG and that is based on 20 plus years of car build and as a member of ASE, ASQ and a Certified SAE and Jet engine mechanic seen and read all the studies on oil filters and protection. I was the lead engineer on a study of oil protection and oil sampling on Trucks and equipment used where I work. I am also a Mil-Spec certified SOAP (Spectrometric Oil Analysis Procedure) Tester !!!!

stangin99 · 02:00 PM

I dont care what your self-proclaimed accomplishments are. You can continue to push off what you think is correct on this site but I hope that not many people will listen. I'm happy that you think your the end all when it comes to cars.

I saw the results, they were not sponsored by any oil or filter company. So you can take your 20+ years of being a mechanic and go elsewhere because I'm not listening.

Go buy fram and get bits of shitty paper filter in your oil. Have fun.

stangin99 · 01-11-2005, 01:51 PM

for those of you who have not seen the test..

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

Danger Dude · 01-11-2005, 02:00 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by stangin99 I dont care what your self-proclaimed accomplishments are. You can continue to push off what you think is correct on this site but I hope that not many people will listen. I'm happy that you think your the end all when it comes to cars. I saw the results, they were not sponsored by any oil or filter company. So you can take your 20+ years of being a mechanic and go elsewhere because I'm not listening. Go buy fram and get bits of shitty paper filter in your oil. Have fun.

Dude you are way out of line. Do you think I would use a filer if I was to get paper in my oil. Come on!!!

You want to make some person remark to me you do it on PM's this is a maintenance forum and not some personal attack forum. So I will not make any personal attacks as to your abilities or self proclaimed knowledge.

As for fact I tested oil and fuel for 3 years as a job and my own opinion and my own 2 eyes saw no real world difference between major filter brands.We did not test no noame brands or store brands. So all I have to say is While you have seen or read results I have tested and published results

OH and if you dont want to listen go right ahead. No one is forcing you to read my post or be here for that matter

Danger Dude · 01-11-2005, 02:11 PM

I read the article and it says nothing about paper getting into the oil.!!!

I dont mind a debate over oil filters but your personal attack on me and my knowledge was uncalled for and unappreciated. I have never made a claim to know everything but when you attack me is a field in which I actually worked in is rather funny.

So I will only make this warning once. If you cannot act like a adult and debate at the same time, do not debate. You can enjoy this forum with the rest of the membership and be decent to people or you wont enjoy it at all

**Brent** · 01-11-2005, 02:32 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by stangin99 I dont care what your self-proclaimed accomplishments are. You can continue to push off what you think is correct on this site but I hope that not many people will listen. I'm happy that you think your the end all when it comes to cars. I saw the results, they were not sponsored by any oil or filter company. So you can take your 20+ years of being a mechanic and go elsewhere because I'm not listening. Go buy fram and get bits of shitty paper filter in your oil. Have fun.