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02-14-2005, 07:02 PM
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Whitesnake
Join Date: Oct 2004
City: Lincoln
State: Nebraska
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What is better shorties or Longtubes and why?
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02-15-2005, 11:50 AM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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Longtubes, unless your car is too low like mine. Can't really explain why they are better, just flows more cause they are longer. That is why equal length are better than shorties. Can't have long tubes in Cali & pass smog. 
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph 
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-15-2005, 11:54 AM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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Since I live in Cali, I am getting the ceramic (bbk) equal lengths. Remember you have to raise your motor to put them in.
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-15-2005, 12:26 PM
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Whitesnake
Join Date: Oct 2004
City: Lincoln
State: Nebraska
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yeah i think im gonna go for the bbk lt's, it is illegal in all states i believe but they just dont do checks here in Nebraska
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02-15-2005, 12:44 PM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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Make sure you get the ceramic lt's or they will look like crap in no time.
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-15-2005, 01:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Severn
State: Maryland
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just go from under it dont have to raise the motor. just unbolt a couple of small things. (cant remember off the top of my head) I have the directions for mine floating around somewhere in my room that came with my longtubes but cant find them at the moment and im at work lol
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02-15-2005, 01:48 PM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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He is talkin about the 96-04's dippy. j/k I know the five oh's You can put in a cam without taking out the motor. Not the modulars it is a biatch to do cams/headers. It is almost not worth putting the headers in.
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-15-2005, 03:42 PM
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
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I have ford racing shorties on the '02, definite improvement over stock... sound if not power.. and it was cake to install (engine was out of car..) went with shorties for NJ emissions crap, and the fact that I wouldn't have to buy a new H pipe.. went with ford racing because I knew they'd bolt right up no problems nor supertuning required
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02-15-2005, 04:00 PM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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Why was your motor out if you don't mind me askin. 
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-16-2005, 06:12 AM
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
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cylinder heads were tapping very loudly, (with the windows down it sounded like someone was tapping a hammer against the engine..)- something with the cam guides or head warpage, I don't remember what it was exactly - it would also rattle badly on cold starts (lifter issue?)
so the engine was out of the car to replace the cylinder heads..
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1992 Mustang LX hatchback.. 1 of 542 black on black
2003 Regal GS - the beater/daily driver - somewhat stock. No its not a mustang, at least it's blown.
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02-16-2005, 09:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Severn
State: Maryland
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i figured there was still enough room to fiddle them in from underneath 
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02-16-2005, 11:07 AM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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Damn that sux, did warranty cover it?
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-16-2005, 11:18 AM
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Taking life one day at a time
Join Date: May 2003
City: Simpsonville
State: South Carolina
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I think you meant to say Valve Guides!!!! 
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02-16-2005, 01:17 PM
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
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I meant the bearings/bores the camc ride in actually I cannot think of the name for the life of me.. maybe I should look up the TSB see what they say lol
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1992 Mustang LX hatchback.. 1 of 542 black on black
2003 Regal GS - the beater/daily driver - somewhat stock. No its not a mustang, at least it's blown.
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02-16-2005, 01:18 PM
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
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if the car hadn't been under warranty, I wouldn't have bothered, I would have saved up for aftermarket heads and just let it tap
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1992 Mustang LX hatchback.. 1 of 542 black on black
2003 Regal GS - the beater/daily driver - somewhat stock. No its not a mustang, at least it's blown.
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02-16-2005, 01:42 PM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
City: Thousand oaks, California
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Me too. Our heads ported out flow 225 cfm. I wonder what ported 3-valve heads flow? 
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-16-2005, 01:53 PM
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
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drool...
3v heads would be nice.. ... I wonder how hard it'd be to swap in 3vs...
there will soon be totalled 05s appearing in junkyards 
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1992 Mustang LX hatchback.. 1 of 542 black on black
2003 Regal GS - the beater/daily driver - somewhat stock. No its not a mustang, at least it's blown.
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02-16-2005, 06:13 PM
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I SMOKE HYBRIDS
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonteCitan
drool...
3v heads would be nice.. ... I wonder how hard it'd be to swap in 3vs...
there will soon be totalled 05s appearing in junkyards
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You prolly would need an intake, cpu/harness, heads, & other things. I think you might as well go 4 valve. Or just get an 03 cobra block. I want to find a totalled (black) mach1 & grab the hood & shaker. I wonder how much it would cost. 
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I have an 01GT w/ frpp 3:73's, sportline springs, wms cold-air w/95mm mass-air, (ceramic) BBK equal length headers (ceramic) mac 70mm t. body, trickflow intake plenium, mac pro-chamber, flowmaster catback, Nitto drags, NX N20 150hp jets, & some good predator tuning! Best E.T. 11.79 @ 118.4mph
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\jon.straszewski\Desktop\TOP shity to bar 020.JPG[/IMG]
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02-16-2005, 06:57 PM
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WTF^^...
Join Date: May 2003
City: Hoover / Florence
State: Alabama
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l/ts are alot better... but you will have to fork over a ton for high flow cats or go no cats at all.
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