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03-21-2005, 10:51 PM
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Thinkin about S/C or Turbo.. but who isn't :p
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Arlington
State: Virginia
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Okay fellas.. this summer im gettin my gears, tlok, chip, etc.
Next summer I'm goin for a big increase in hp. I'm thinking either a turbo or a supercharger. My first question is.. "Is 4.10s overkill on a superchargeed/turboed car? or should i go with 3.73s?" I don't want it to be too out of control and I still want it to be driver friendly. BTW, its an auto.
Okay what I was thinking is something that isn't a lot of power but a decent boost. I think 5psi might be too little and 9psi is more ideal. I'm not sure yet. I can get 3k-5k easily by working over the summer. I dont really race so I don't want this beast of a car that I can't drive around my neighborhood. However, horsepower numbers don't mean much to me. Instead, I like to look at quarter mile times. I want something 13-14.5 seconds.
Soooo.. I did some research and I was looking at that guy's turbo kit that is mentioned in a few other topics as well as info on the vortech supercharger. How much would these cost? Right now I got a stock engine and I'm not sure if I need to do anything about that to prepare for these?
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03-21-2005, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
State: California
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03-21-2005, 11:24 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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yeah i was lookin at that. man how bad i want it.. *drools*
however...
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Quote:
Turbo headers = $ 630
Complete Turbo Piping Kit (Turbo headers, exhaust dump pipes, intercooler pipes) = $1800
Prices do not include shipping.
Extra parts that are needed and price estimates besides piping.
Brand New Garrett T3/T4 57 trim turbo off of Garrett Distributor (Supports 450 hp)= $520
Brand New Tial 38 MM wastegate = $220
Brand New Bosch BOV = $30
Brand New silicone hoses, T bolt clamps, vacuum hoses off HighTempSilicone.com= $150
Brand New oil feed and oil drain lines from Summitt = $80
Brand New K&N air filter, PCV catch can, Coating spray can, radiator catch can, reflective heat shields from Summit = $130
Total = $1130
Total with my complete Piping base turbo cost= $2930
So $2930 will get you a running setup with pipes already design to accept an intercooler that will bolt right in when you decide to upgrade in the future.
Optional Items
Brand New Spearco intercooler 18x8x3 inch core off Spearco Distributor= $360
Brand New Autometer boost gauge = $40
HKS BOV - $190
Optional Garrett T3/T04B 60-1, 62-1 turbo (Supports 600hp)(Recommend for forge bottom end built motors) $620
Total with boost gauge and intercooler and hks bov= $3490
Total with everything and Bigger turbo = $3590
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thats a hell of a lot of money. i dont want that big turbo tho.. at least.. i dont think i do? im not sure how all this works and i dont necessarily know what i want. i think i want 9psi and no lag.. so the smaller turbo would work? that would need intercooled too, right? would i need any engine work to prep the engine for all this?
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03-21-2005, 11:26 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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so basically....
it would be around 3200 for the whole kit plus install?
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03-21-2005, 11:27 PM
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Christian & proud of it
Join Date: Jun 2004
City: La Vernia
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3490 is the TOTAL package with all options - the bigger turbo not bad for 275RWHP untuned at 4.4psi
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03-21-2005, 11:32 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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yeah thats what i meant.. i didnt click back to see the price though.
is the stock motor fine with this setup or is there any modifications i have to do to prep it? is everything in the kit needed for a complete setup? i know how in superchargers you need to upgrade some fuel stuff.
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03-21-2005, 11:34 PM
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with 4.4 psi you should be fine but i would suggest a dyno tune. |
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03-21-2005, 11:34 PM
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Christian & proud of it
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at 4.4 PSI you dont need any mods but if you bump the boost you will need fuel upgrades and i would reccomend forged internals
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03-21-2005, 11:35 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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what kind of power increase should i expect out of a 4.4psi boost? a couple thousand dollars and a small increase might not be worth it.
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03-21-2005, 11:36 PM
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if you are tuned you would prolly be at 300 rwhp. thats alot of power |
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03-21-2005, 11:43 PM
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Christian & proud of it
Join Date: Jun 2004
City: La Vernia
State: Texas
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"The LORD shall judge the people:judge me, O Lord, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me." PSALM 7:8
In Texas? check out www.lonestarstangs.com
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03-21-2005, 11:44 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Arlington
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what kinda quarter mile time is that?
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03-21-2005, 11:48 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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oh.. and do i have to get the intercooler at those levels or am i cool without it?
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03-21-2005, 11:50 PM
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Christian & proud of it
Join Date: Jun 2004
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you dont NEED an intercooler, but i will NEVER EVER run FI on a car i own w/o one. its just soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much saver
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03-21-2005, 11:57 PM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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so.. that would be the same price (3400 or whatever it is) plus install.. i just wouldnt have to do any engine work?
how much would the fuel upgrades and forged internals cost?
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03-21-2005, 11:58 PM
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you dont need the forged internal or fuel upgerades for that setup. and u can install it your self, i dont have expirince with it but it looks like its a bolt on kit. |
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03-22-2005, 12:00 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
City: DFW, TX
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fuel upgrades -
injectors - $150ish
pump - 100ish
forged rotating assembly -
forged parts - $800ish
install - $1000ish
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03-22-2005, 12:05 AM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Arlington
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do you NEED the forged parts for 9psi or do you think the fuel upgrades are enough?
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03-22-2005, 12:16 AM
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oh shit you want to run 9 psi? i would get both forged and fuel upgrades for that. |
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03-22-2005, 12:26 AM
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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no no no.. i am just comparing my options right now so i can make the best economical decision. im very paranoid when it comes to big decisions like this. so far im leaning more towards...
4psi + complete kit
4.10 + Tlok + chip + 8.8 rear
the complete kit will probably cost near 3600 shipped (just an approx) plus 1000 for labor? not sure... just throwing out numbers.
the gears and whatnot will probably done first and that will probably cost around a grand.
i have to research the prices on the 8.8 rear and install prices and stuff.
after all this ill probably be done with performance.
geez.. so much money.. 
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