Oh Lookie I ended up being Right

bluemustang · **Oh Lookie I ended up being Right**

Remeber maybe a month or so ago we were having the whole abortion debate whether or not a teen has any rights to have an abortion and whatever what not well guess what, a judge in FL ruled that a 13 year old is mentally capable to decide to have an abortion or not.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155326,00.html


Quote: Fla. Judge OKs Abortion for Girl, 13 Tuesday, May 03, 2005 WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. � A judge ruled that a 13-year-old girl at the center of an abortion fight with the state may terminate her pregnancy, and Gov. Jeb Bush (search) said Tuesday that the state will not appeal further. Juvenile Judge Ronald Alvarez (search) ruled Monday that the teen, who has been in state custody for four years, would not be physically or emotionally harmed by the procedure. Last week, Alvarez blocked the girl's abortion until a psychological evaluation was completed. "He ruled that she is competent, that she has made a decision and that she has a right to act on that decision," said Howard Simon, executive director of the Florida American Civil Liberties Union, which represented the girl. Lawyers for the girl, who is 14 weeks pregnant and known only as L.G. in court papers, would not say if she had the abortion after the judge allowed her to do so Monday. But attorney James Green said Tuesday that "the case is over." State Department of Children & Families (search) spokeswoman Marilyn Munoz said the agency would "respectfully comply with the court's decision." She declined to provide further details. "We are working for the best interest of the young girl," Munoz said. The teen became pregnant after running away from the DCF shelter where she lives. "It's a tragedy that a 13-year-old girl would be in a vulnerable position where she could be made pregnant and it's a tragedy that her baby will be lost," Bush said in Tallahassee. The department had argued that the girl was too young and immature to decide for herself to have an abortion. The agency said state law prohibited the agency from consenting to the procedure. The girl told the judge last week as part of the psychological evaluation process that she wanted an abortion, citing her age and no way to support a baby. The girl's ACLU (search) attorneys argued that Florida law protects a minor's right to choose an abortion. A measure is moving through the state Legislature to require notification of parents or guardians when girls seek abortion. In 2003, the Florida Supreme Court struck down a 1999 law requiring parents to be notified if their minor daughters seek an abortion.

STEVE · 05-04-2005, 06:27 PM

haha what a slut

Kyle · 05-04-2005, 06:30 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by 232stang haha what a slut

+1

i think that a 13 yr old is mentally capable of making this decision, however, i also think that she will regret it later on.
but this is just my opinion b/c i am against abortion.

bluemustang · 05-04-2005, 06:32 PM

Eh maybe she will maybe she wont. Cant honestly say cause shes prolly not all there to begin with ya know.

Kyle · 05-04-2005, 06:37 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by bluemustang Eh maybe she will maybe she wont. Cant honestly say cause shes prolly not all there to begin with ya know.

yeah, thats true. i think she will regret it only if she really thinks of the severity of the situation. its all in the mind set of this young lady.
if she thinks that it happens all the time and its no big deal, then she probably wont. if she realizes that she has taken away a life, then she might come to regret it.

bluemustang · 05-04-2005, 06:41 PM

Eh dont take this the wrong way or in any disrespect but only people who are pro-life/religious people would take what you said into heart (meaning the day she realizes she took a life)

I personally know some girls who have had abortion and their mentally afterwards they were sorrowful because you know the obvious, but after a few days they were back to normal.

But again every girl prolly reacts to this in a very differ ways

Seph · 05-04-2005, 06:44 PM

you know that feeling you had when you left Highschool and you had this load of responsibilities? It was scary, but it was nice to be free? She's 13, and if she decided she was going to have sex at that early of an age without protection... then she fucked up and shouldn't let her have anymore decisions.

Why is it that everything that comes outta Florida has been so.......

Whatever, that's my opinion on it, if you disagree go get hit by a lawn-mower.

bluemustang · 05-04-2005, 06:51 PM

we all fuck up at some point should we all be followed around for all the mistakes we do for the rest of our lives.

Because if thats the route your thinking, think of every fucked up thing youve done that has effected others. Do you think those mistakes should follow you every where for the rest of YOUR life?

This is the reason why our society now a days suck. We want people to take their mistakes and keep them and deal with it. That shouldnt be our thinking how is a 13 year old gonna take care of a baby. Theres not even good enough programs out there to even help out this girl or even others if they did keep it. I rather have a society of choices and not a society of future failure

STEVE · 05-04-2005, 06:54 PM

my stand on abortion http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=regressive

fast64 · 05-04-2005, 06:57 PM

killing babies = bad. if she wasn't prepared to have a kid, she shouldn't have spread her legs.

Tbird232ci · 05-04-2005, 07:01 PM

interesting...its legal for a 13 year old to have an abortion, but illegal for me to do anything with a 16 year old...very interesting

bluemustang · 05-04-2005, 07:03 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by fast64 killing babies = bad. if she wasn't prepared to have a kid, she shouldn't have spread her legs.

So im presuming everyone thats saying that if a chick isnt ready to have a kid she shouldnt spread her legs so okay.

Im presuming all you nay-sayers are all virgins cause im presuming most of you arent prepared yourself to have kids so that means you cant take your shlong out either.

And remember condoms/pills arent 100% preventable for those that say she could have had the guy wear protection. remember shit happens

bluemustang · 05-04-2005, 07:03 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Tbird232ci interesting...its legal for a 13 year old to have an abortion, but illegal for me to do anything with a 16 year old...very interesting

Under FL law yes. Im also presuming FL law has a low consenting age too though for all that to work

Tbird232ci · 05-04-2005, 07:15 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by bluemustang Im presuming all you nay-sayers are all virgins cause im presuming most of you arent prepared yourself to have kids so that means you cant take your shlong out either.

and also, i can garentee that you guys havnt had a pregnancy scare in your lives, when you have that scare, your opinions will change, especially when youre in a position where youre jobless, in high school, and living with your parents, and your girlfriend is the same

STEVE · 05-04-2005, 07:29 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Tbird232ci and also, i can garentee that you guys havnt had a pregnancy scare in your lives, when you have that scare, your opinions will change, especially when youre in a position where youre jobless, in high school, and living with your parents, and your girlfriend is the same

i had one of those

Seph · 05-04-2005, 07:38 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by bluemustang we all fuck up at some point should we all be followed around for all the mistakes we do for the rest of our lives. Because if thats the route your thinking, think of every fucked up thing youve done that has effected others. Do you think those mistakes should follow you every where for the rest of YOUR life? This is the reason why our society now a days suck. We want people to take their mistakes and keep them and deal with it. That shouldnt be our thinking how is a 13 year old gonna take care of a baby. Theres not even good enough programs out there to even help out this girl or even others if they did keep it. I rather have a society of choices and not a society of future failure

So are you going to go get hit by a lawn-mower now?

If I don't follow those mistakes for the rest of my life, I'm bound to fuck up again in the future so I best don't make those same mistakes.

Ponycarman · 05-04-2005, 07:40 PM

So, instead of a 13 yo paying for her mistake for the rest of her life the baby gets to pay with it's life?

Interesting logic, not.

If you can't do the time don't do the crime.

Steve

Seph · 05-04-2005, 07:41 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Ponycarman So, instead of a 13 yo paying for her mistake for the rest of her life the baby gets to pay with it's life? Interesting logic, not. If you can't do the time don't do the crime. Steve

Kyle · 05-04-2005, 07:42 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by bluemustang we all fuck up at some point should we all be followed around for all the mistakes we do for the rest of our lives. Because if thats the route your thinking, think of every fucked up thing youve done that has effected others. Do you think those mistakes should follow you every where for the rest of YOUR life?

i totally agree with you on the point that we have all messed up at some point or another and we can chaulk up some mistakes in the "shit happens" category. however, there are instances where SOME mistakes will follow you and you will wish that it never happened.

i dont think that every single time you mess up that it should follow you for the rest of your life b/c there are some actions that can be taken to correct some mistakes made in life.

i would have rather seen this girl put the child up for adoption though. there are