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07-20-2005, 02:53 AM
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NEW HERE Help on Mac offroad h-pipe
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i have a 1997 mustang v6 5spd 115k original miles. want to install a mac off road h-pipe with a custom side exhuast but my question was does the off road hpipe bolt on like the stock one and will my sensor reach the pipe holes(v6 stangs have 4 sensors right) or do i have to buy extensions.
Any suggestions on which mil eliminators i shoud use. because i heard the wire mil eliminator was better than the on that plugs right in.
Last edited by TexaStang; 07-20-2005 at 05:31 PM.
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07-20-2005, 06:31 AM
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Taking life one day at a time
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No there are only 2 sensors. Do you have inspections in Texas??? If you do you will never pass inspection.
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07-20-2005, 12:13 PM
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Passing the inspection is very easy just man thats no problem |
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07-20-2005, 12:23 PM
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?????? 
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07-20-2005, 12:27 PM
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i just wanna know if im going to have to use extensions and what mil elimintaros are the best |
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07-20-2005, 12:39 PM
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What ever brand you buy make sure they are the plug in type and not the type you have to splice in and no you wont need extensions
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07-20-2005, 12:41 PM
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ok how about mil eliminators |
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07-20-2005, 12:46 PM
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I was talking about Mil's
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07-20-2005, 12:48 PM
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sorry i didnt read it right sorry but many people say the ones you have to splice are better cause ther others somtimes dont plug in on one end |
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07-20-2005, 12:57 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
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Did they buy the wrong ones???? I know people who use both and have not heard that. Plug in types are so much easier to install. I know some people who still get the engine light even with the MIL eliminators. Actually the best way is to get a chip to turn it off. If you are going to install gears in the future you will need a chip anyway to remove the speed limiter and raise your RPM limiter. By the way what engine mods do you have that require a O/R H pipe. Typically without P&P heads, intakes and cam a stock V6 sounds rather crappy with O/R H pipes. Dont believe the advertised HP claims of what a H pipe and dual exhaust will give you. A stock V6 exhaust is not very restrictive and will only gain you maybe 5 or 6 HP but if you plan to do some real engine mods then you will benefit
Oh By the way Welcome to Mustang Evolution!!!
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Last edited by Danger Dude; 07-20-2005 at 01:03 PM.
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07-20-2005, 01:13 PM
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the exhaust is going to be my first mode im planing on mac off-road h-pipe with a custom side exhuast with magnaflow mufflers will my car sound crappy. oh yeah about the mils ive also heard people say they but the mils on and work fine after a week the light comes on and off and chips are to expensive |
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07-20-2005, 01:35 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
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Like I was saying O/R H pipes on stock engines sound crappy but a modded engine sound good with a O/R H pipe. If you wanting a good engine growl from your exhaust and not a loud obnoxious raspy noise you will get from a O/R H pipe, skip H pipe and mils all together and get some more useful mods. Then if you ever decide to go and do some engine mods you can get a H pipe. You will get more HP out of a CAI and UDP than you will out of a H Pipe
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07-20-2005, 01:52 PM
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is there any place where i can hear an offroad hpipe or something similar |
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07-20-2005, 02:01 PM
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I am sure someone has a soundclip of a stock 94-98 with a H pipe on it somewhere!!
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07-20-2005, 02:12 PM
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WTF^^...
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they sound very very loud and very very nasty, I wouldnt do it. I would just get custom true dual exhaust with flowmasters or what ever and be done with it. Your will move your power up in the rpm's a tad with the flow being so free and the car may even feel slower to you.
MIL's dont work that great some times, I would get a chip since for your car they are pretty darn cheap, MIL's can be a fix for a bit until you can get a chip.
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07-20-2005, 02:25 PM
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i would really love to hear an off-road h pipe and i would really like to remove the catalytic convertes because our cars have 4 right |
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07-20-2005, 02:52 PM
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I would aslo like to hear a clip of a stock motor with o/r h-pipe |
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07-20-2005, 03:05 PM
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WTF^^...
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well the two back cats Im not sure if they are actually considered cats... someone will chime in and say but I have also heard them refered to as resonators... hmmmm
Ive rod in v6s with no cats, its a horrid sound, nearly as bad as a 4 banger honda with a fart muffler.
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07-20-2005, 03:10 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
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No they are all cats instead of one on each side doing all the chemical conversions they break it down into 2 steps
Both cats do something
The first converter is a reduction catalyst converter. Platinum and rhodium reduce NO emissions. The NO gas is a byproduct of the combustion reaction that provides the energy for the automobile. The reaction that occurs in this sector of the catalytic converter is as follows:
2NO => N 2 + O 2 or 2NO 2 => N 2 + 2O 2.
The second converter is an oxidation catalyst converter. Carbon monoxide is also a byproduct of a combustion reaction and is an unwanted pollutant in the environment. The oxidation catalyst reduces carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide as follows:
without both the process is not complete and illegal
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Last edited by Danger Dude; 07-20-2005 at 03:13 PM.
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07-20-2005, 06:34 PM
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If would still like to buy an O/R h-pipe from MAC, I sell them for $150+shipping which is about $22.
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07-20-2005, 08:18 PM
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Ok let me ask this question which gives you more horsepower an o/r h-pipe or an hiflow converter h-pipe and is the hiflow h-pipe street legal |
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07-20-2005, 08:22 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
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Hp between the 2 on a stock motor 0-2 HP difference. Yes High flow catts are legal in most states. The big difference is in the noise
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07-20-2005, 08:53 PM
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