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10-31-2006, 05:36 PM
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New Boss Engine
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Ya'll might not have heard of the new Boss engine that Ford is apparently going to build, but you have probably heard of the Hurricane engine, and thats basically all this is. The name was changed from Hurricane to Boss after Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005. Apparently it will be a DOHC 5.0L engine with VTACH (HAHA J/k), Variable Valve Timing, and there will be different versions producing between 340, and 500HP, and be used in Mustangs, F-Series trucks, Expeditions, and Navigators. It should be ready for use in 2009 in a new Boss Mustang, just in time to compete with the new Camaro, and Challenger.
Ford revives Boss engine - 10/31/06 - The Detroit News Online
Last edited by JROC; 10-31-2006 at 09:57 PM.
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10-31-2006, 06:12 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Bob is Good.
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Whoa whoa whoa... hold up. Just a minute.
So is this "Boss" crate engine just a good ol' fashioned pushrod 5.0L? It sure sounds like what they are saying. Doesn't make much sense though... why would they be calling it a new engine? Unless they have designed an all-new 5.0L pushrod engine. Which would be kinda cool, but kinda stupid at the same time.
I still to this day do not see why Ford stopped using pushrods and went with OHC to begin with. But, I guess that's a whole other story.
So does anyone know exactly what the hell they are trying to say here? |
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10-31-2006, 06:19 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Bob is Good.
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Holy shit....
Nevermind. I figured it out. And I'm a happy motherfucker. I know what motor is going in my coupe now... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
It really is a "Boss" 302. 4 bolt mains. Screw in freeze plugs. Heat treated cast iron block. Siamese bores. Stronger than a R302, but 20 lbs less. Cross drilled for better cooling. Can be bored and stroked up to 363 cubic inches.
This is the best thing Ford has done since 1987. 
EDIT: Some pics of the badness.
Last edited by bbunt302; 10-31-2006 at 06:25 PM.
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10-31-2006, 06:30 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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I can has Mustang?
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The Article says its a DOHC? The one you posted is a Pushrod
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10-31-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Bob is Good.
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Read the part I quoted again. The production "Boss" is gonna be OHC. The Ford Racing crate "Boss" is going to be the new pushrod short block. The full crate engines are going to use a lot of the old 5.0L parts (Y and Z heads, etc). But the block is a brand new, 4 bolt main, 5.0L block.
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10-31-2006, 06:41 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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A new 302 block, how awesome is that. I might actually be interested in a stronger block like that in lieu of other plans...
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10-31-2006, 07:00 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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I thought it was poorly worded to, and couldn't figure out how an original Boss 302 was simular to a DOHC engine. And yes the new FR Boss 302 block is awesome. 
Last edited by JROC; 10-31-2006 at 08:11 PM.
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10-31-2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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so ... the 5.0 production version is gonna have a ghetto-rigged OHC system like the 4.0s then? cam chains/drives added as an afterthought?
that sounds like trouble..
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10-31-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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I believe their 2 different blocks, and you won't be able to interchange parts. The new Boss block that Ford has release is pretty much an original Boss block that has a few updates, and is being built, and sold by Ford Racing. The new Boss engine is a totally new engine that Ford is building to keep up with Chevy, and Dodge, and is not related to the older 302's, they just have the same displacement. I had read that Ford was going to make a 6.2L Hurricane/Boss engine, but I don't now.
Last edited by JROC; 10-31-2006 at 08:08 PM.
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10-31-2006, 08:00 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Bob is Good.
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From what I've read, you're right. The crate motors are entirely separate entity from what will be in the production Mustangs. Although it would be really cool if they had a 2009 Boss with a pushrod 5.0L in it... I'd buy one.
But I believe the plan is to have a new OHC engine that is capable of being bored/stroked up to a 6.2 for production vehicles. |
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10-31-2006, 08:06 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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10-31-2006, 08:29 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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 I'm concused. In the article that I originally posted states that the engine is going to be a 5 liters engine, but Wikipedia say its going to be a 6.2 and maybe eventually a 7 liter engine in future applications. I'm guessing the original artilce I posted is right since it was released today.
Wikipedia also states that the new Boss blocks that they just released is to hype up the new Boss engines, but that they will have nothing in common.
Ford Boss 302 engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ford Boss engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Last edited by JROC; 10-31-2006 at 10:42 PM.
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11-01-2006, 12:59 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Stangless
Join Date: Jul 2006
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thats gonna be one nice engine either way cant wait to see one and work on tuneing one as well
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11-01-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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^needs more bondo
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i doubt it.
somehow this whole thread has "in our dreams" written all over it.
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11-01-2006, 01:48 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Stangless
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Ford seems to have a high number of let downs
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11-01-2006, 01:54 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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I can has Mustang?
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Well they can't let us down with the crate engine because it's already a go
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11-01-2006, 04:07 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Ford better make a engine to compete with Chevy, and Dodge, because lets be honest, Mod motors don't have nothing on LS, and Hemi motors. Even the Supercharged motors don't have much of an an advantage on LS motors.
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11-01-2006, 04:17 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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WTF^^...
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whats really sad is if ford would have just updated the 5.0L and kept using it... they would have faster more powerful and more reliable (and more popular) mustangs... who doesnt love a 302....
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11-01-2006, 04:23 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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Agreed with one exception. I would have liked them to step up to 351 Windsor instead. |
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11-01-2006, 04:26 PM
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Re: New Boss Engine
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^needs more bondo
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werd. they need to mass produce the 5.4 and phase out the 4.6. they then need to add a 6.0l modular into the works.
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