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11-01-2006, 02:42 PM
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pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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Is anyone familiar with Pypes exhaust?? I have a single flowmaster on my car and its not really doing it for me anymore. Pypes makes a complete system which I like. I am torn between the catback system which uses the stock cats and Y pipe, or the full system with x pipe and high flow cats. will the sound from the stock y pipe and cats differ from the sound that the high flow cats and x pipe will produce?? |
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11-01-2006, 02:46 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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#2 (I Wish I Could Lope Like A tC)
Join Date: Apr 2006
City: Pineville/Alexandria
State: Louisiana
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You would get better flow and sound from the high flow cats... Im guessin your goin with true duals since u are gettin a x-pipe...the high flow cats will help along with the x-pipe for sound and performance...i have no cats and a h-pipe with flows and dumps and i love it...
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Mods - Off Road H w/ Flowmaster 40s and 3" x 22" Tips, Shiftkit, Shorties, and 4.10s
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11-01-2006, 02:51 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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ok thanks. No cats?? I heard the V6 sounds bad without cats?? do dumps help to make it louder?? Do you know where I could get a system like you have? |
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11-01-2006, 03:38 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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#2 (I Wish I Could Lope Like A tC)
Join Date: Apr 2006
City: Pineville/Alexandria
State: Louisiana
Posts: 1,265
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mine is custom... what kinda tests do they have where you live for emissions and stuff like that... dumps dont make it louder they are louder because most people put dumps right off the mufflers and the shorter the distance from the muffler to the exhaust end the louder... i have a exhause shop around here who does stuff like cut cats off for cash with no recipt... go to flowmastermufflers.com or any other exhaust website and they usually have clips of what mufflers sound like... ask some guys on here who have v6s and see if they can let you listen to a clip and see what u like...its all personal prefrence.... flows dont have very good flow for hp but i love the sound
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Mods - Off Road H w/ Flowmaster 40s and 3" x 22" Tips, Shiftkit, Shorties, and 4.10s
Soon to come - UDPs, Off Road X-Pipe, A/T Cooler, and 03' Cobra Rims
Club - Tha Crew Leader of Muscle Car Division
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11-01-2006, 03:50 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Deranged
Join Date: Jan 2005
City: Largo
State: Florida
Posts: 6,151
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He has a GT !! V-6's sounds like shit without cats. IMO stay away from flow master A.K.A. choke master .Run true dual with high flow cats V-6
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11-01-2006, 03:52 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Eyes So Tight I Pass For An Asian
Join Date: May 2003
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Posts: 27,137
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A stock V6 sounds bad imo. However once you get some engine work done, a wilder cam mainly, then you get a nice improvement in sound at WOT. |
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11-01-2006, 04:10 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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WTF^^...
Join Date: May 2003
City: Hoover / Florence
State: Alabama
Posts: 27,124
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if the piping from the Y pipe back is the same size it will do NOTHING as a pipe is a pipe. I would go with true duals from the cats back (chop off the Y pipe) with 2.25 inch pipe and be done with it. No need to remove the cats they dont start to become a problem until you are in the 300+hp range.
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11-01-2006, 04:13 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Imma Ho...
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: Baton Rouge
State: Louisiana
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Kyle has a pypes off road x on his car. There are some vids on here somewhere of his car at WOT and I will be posting one of his car on the dyno with that setup. It sounds great above 3k...below it sounds like it needs work. Check the pics and vid section for a thread about kyles car (his user id is Kyle on here too btw)
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11-01-2006, 05:27 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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ok thanks for all the information guys. |
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11-01-2006, 07:35 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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postarama
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Southaven
State: Mississippi
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I have a pypes offroad x and 94-98 manifolds in my kitchen right now, should be interesting to hear the sound difference...
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11-01-2006, 09:31 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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milf hunter
Join Date: Apr 2005
City: Baton Rouge
State: Louisiana
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thats the only complaint i really have............below 2.5k actually you dont hear enough rumble to drown out the free air flowing through it. so below that you hear the air whooshing through the pipes. only thing i can really do about that is throw the cats on  ...............that or maybe some stock mufflers to add more restriction
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11-01-2006, 11:00 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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postarama
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Southaven
State: Mississippi
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Have you thought about going back with a chambered muffler to see if it will give more rumble down low? I already know mine is gonna sound airey with the afterburners on there. I may try out my mach 1's with the o/r x to see what they do.
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Mine:
-87 ranger- broke
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project
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11-01-2006, 11:12 PM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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milf hunter
Join Date: Apr 2005
City: Baton Rouge
State: Louisiana
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yeah but i dont have the cash to throw up two new mufflers up there. the ones i have right now are a straight-thru design. but that "air-like sound" goes away around 2.5k.............after that it drowns out
try the machs on there, if they sound good i might dump what i have and go with something else
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11-02-2006, 12:06 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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ok so my real question is, will the car be louder if i get the whole system done with high flow cats. than if i just put a cat back system on there with stock cats? |
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11-02-2006, 12:10 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
City: southampton
State: New Jersey
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i got my car done with stock cats. i got the flowmaster force 2 system on it and its loud.ill try to give u a clip of it soon.ill pm it to u. |
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11-02-2006, 12:19 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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thanks alot man, i'd appreciate it |
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11-02-2006, 12:23 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
City: southampton
State: New Jersey
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u know wat u goin to go with for the system yet? |
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11-02-2006, 12:29 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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no Im not real happy with the flow master 40 series i have on there now. I want something with dual exhaust, that is deeper and louder but not ricey. Im not real sure whats good out there tho. |
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11-02-2006, 12:42 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
City: southampton
State: New Jersey
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well u got a single right now right? i think the flowmasters sound good dual. havent heard anything else yet really. but it was flowmaster or mac when i was doing mine to dual exhaust. |
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11-02-2006, 08:45 AM
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Re: pypes exhaust......cats question
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
City: Havertown
State: Pennsylvania
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yeah i have a single flowmaster that i got done about a year ago. I didn't look around and wanted something real quick, that I thought would be cheap. So i had a shop weld in a flowmaster and then cut a hole in the pipe after the flow and weld a pipe in going to the other side. So it looks dual, it looks real nice actually. But the thing is when its cold out and the car is smoking, the smoke only comes out of one pipe and that looks dumb. I want it to be louder, i just don't know how to do that. Have you heard mac?? |
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