Is this true?

[chris098]

I just bought an '04 v6 a couple days ago and I talk to this guy at midas about getting duel exhaust and he says he can do it but he said he cant make them true duels because that would be illegal. Is this guy full or shit or is it true?
I got a friend who got true duels done at the same place a couple years without any hassle so im kinda skeptical here

[carlosc]

i don t think is illegal, i have a 2001 v6 with it, and no problem

[Herbstang]

Check your state laws. If it's illegal go find a small shop that's willing to do it I have true dual on my 04

[Danger Dude]

As long as you are not messing with the cats you are legal. The exception might be in Oregon, but not totally sure on that.

[SpectorV]

definatly check your state law... but it should not be illegal

[Stumpy]

Tx emissions laws are almost as strict as Cali. i got mine dualled out for Christmas and it is totally legal. you figure that you have two cats on there anyway. all they have to do is cut off the Y and add on an additional muffler.

[SpectorV]

they make bolt on dual exhaust kits (no welding) that should be legal and have a number on them showing that they are legal, if all else fails you can just do that.

[chris098]

I live in nevada. I have no idea what the laws are out here regarding exhaust systems and stuff like that but like I said, I know someone who got true duels done at the same place im looking at so I dont know.
I find it kinda hard to believe prostitution is legal here but getting duels on my car is a no no.
I'll try to look for some other shops around town and see what they have to say. If none of them can help me, I might just have to drive to california. Hopefully there dont have the same law there

[chris098]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpectorV they make bolt on dual exhaust kits (no welding) that should be legal and have a number on them showing that they are legal, if all else fails you can just do that.

Would that be more expensive than getting true duels or no?

[1996stang]

Ok think of it this way gt's come factory with true duals.

[PureVenom]

Quote: Originally Posted by chris098 I just bought an '04 v6 a couple days ago and I talk to this guy at midas about getting duel exhaust and he says he can do it but he said he cant make them true duels because that would be illegal. Is this guy full or shit or is it true? I got a friend who got true duels done at the same place a couple years without any hassle so im kinda skeptical here

If you want to get down to technicalities, in most, if not all, states, it is illegal to remove properly functioning catalytic converters from a vehicle. This includes replacing stock cats with high flow cats as well as changing out an entire stock H/Y pipe out for an after market pipe.

This is why the shop says it is illegal...because technically, they aren't supposed to remove your cats from your car because they are still functioning properly.

99% of the time shops don't care and just do it...but every once in a while, a shop will pop up and say no. Maybe they are due for an audit or something...and want to abide by the rules or something.

If you get a bolt in system that doesn't require any welding, their should be no reason you couldn't do this yourself. However, I am not up on the v6 exhaust systems to know if they are like mine that just require unclamping some pipes.

Quote: Originally Posted by 1996stang Ok think of it this way gt's come factory with true duals.

That is the point, they come from the factory that way...it doesn't require removing the stock cats to make it dual.

[PureVenom]

In addition:

It is not illegal for you to have it on your car...it is illegal for the shop to do it.

[Stumpy]

Quote: Originally Posted by PureVenom If you want to get down to technicalities, in most, if not all, states, it is illegal to remove properly functioning catalytic converters from a vehicle. This includes replacing stock cats with high flow cats as well as changing out an entire stock H/Y pipe out for an after market pipe. This is why the shop says it is illegal...because technically, they aren't supposed to remove your cats from your car because they are still functioning properly. 99% of the time shops don't care and just do it...but every once in a while, a shop will pop up and say no. Maybe they are due for an audit or something...and want to abide by the rules or something. If you get a bolt in system that doesn't require any welding, their should be no reason you couldn't do this yourself. However, I am not up on the v6 exhaust systems to know if they are like mine that just require unclamping some pipes. That is the point, they come from the factory that way...it doesn't require removing the stock cats to make it dual.

my stock cats stayed on the car. they just snipped the Y off and added on the 2nd muffler and tailpipe.

[PureVenom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stumpy my stock cats stayed on the car. they just snipped the Y off and added on the 2nd muffler and tailpipe.

Which would be completely legal for the shop to do because all you did was replace piping and mufflers which are fully legal to do.

[Stumpy]

so why can't they do that to his? something isn't making sense here.

[PureVenom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stumpy so why can't they do that to his? something isn't making sense here.

They can as long as they reuse the stock cats

[Fishers Stang]

yeah I run true. keep the cats neway, 6ers sound funny with out cats

[bbunt302]

It's true. Removing properly functioning catalytic converters is illegal.

But hey, laws were made to be broken. Otherwise, they'd be useless.