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02-11-2007, 06:57 PM
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Car won't start
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
City: Dayton
State: Ohio
Posts: 13
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Hey guys. I have a slight problem. The car will turn over, but wont fire. I've checked all fuses and relays. I'm getting power through the inertia switch and to the fuel pump. I run the codes, and I'm coming up with two. P0190, and P1233. I can erase them, but they come back. This all started when I was reinstalling my CAI. I started the car without the MAF hooked up. The car ran, but had a rough idle. I immediately new what I had done. It started back up and ran for approx. 10 min. then died. It hasn't ran since. It tries, but gives the impression that its flooded. Not sure if thats even possible, but running out of guesses. I guess it could be a fuel pump, but hard to believe at 40k. Any help would be great. Thanks
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2002 GT 5sp
FRPP 4.10's, SCT Excalibur 2, ZEX wet nitrous system, MSD window, Eibach Sportsline, Mac Pro chamber and cat back, Steeda Tri-ax, HPM sub frame connectors, Mac CAI, IAC restrictor, March fluid dampener/UDP, HPM mega bite jr's, BBK strut tower brace, 18" Cobra R's, Dyno tuned by Dayton Perf.
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02-11-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
Posts: 4,973
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p0190 = FRP sensor signal low (I believe) p1233 = fuel system disabled or offline (I believe)
I COULD BE WRONG, I'm running off memory of a year + ago, but 1233, works off the fuel level sender, and might (might might might) be tied in to the fuel pressure sensor... make sure the sensor on the fuel rail is plugged in (I don't think it'd cause a no start, but p0190 is a check for the Fuel Rail Pressure sensor -- PCM's checking for presence/ground of the 5 volt reference voltage, it trips this code if it falls below a certain value...
If you have a test light it couldn't hurt to check all your fuses...
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1992 Mustang LX hatchback.. 1 of 542 black on black
2003 Regal GS - the beater/daily driver - somewhat stock. No its not a mustang, at least it's blown.
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02-11-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Join Date: Feb 2007
City: virginia beach
State: Virginia
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that happened to my 02 at the track and freaked me out. i have a diablo tune in mine and after about 2 hours of sitting in the staging lanes tring to start it i tried taking the tune completely out of the car returning it to stock then putting the tune back in. it worked on mine. just an idea |
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02-11-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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postarama
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Southaven
State: Mississippi
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I had problems with the P0190 in my car. Try unplugging the sensor and plug it back in. Also, check to make sure all the vacuum lines are still connected. If the vaccum line to the FRPS is not hooked up, the car will not run.
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02-11-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
City: Dayton
State: Ohio
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Ok. I had a fuel pressure gage that I bought from jegs mounted directly to the fuel rail. The fuel pressure sensor mounted on to of the distribution block that the gage came with. I removed the gage and block, and now the car starts, but won't stay running. It sounds like I have a bad miss now, Maybe I fouled the plugs. I tried putting the program back to factory default, but now my battery is dead. Its always something. Thanks for the input so far. You guys made me think about the fuel pressure gage.
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2002 GT 5sp
FRPP 4.10's, SCT Excalibur 2, ZEX wet nitrous system, MSD window, Eibach Sportsline, Mac Pro chamber and cat back, Steeda Tri-ax, HPM sub frame connectors, Mac CAI, IAC restrictor, March fluid dampener/UDP, HPM mega bite jr's, BBK strut tower brace, 18" Cobra R's, Dyno tuned by Dayton Perf.
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02-11-2007, 08:25 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Andy
Join Date: Jan 2007
City: Wapakoneta
State: Ohio
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hey torch im close to you bought an hour away
hope you get your car running
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02-11-2007, 08:49 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
City: Dayton
State: Ohio
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I got the car to stay running, but missing bad. I think I'll try a new set of plugs. They may be shot. I'm getting a code saying bank 1 is too rich. That leads me to believe its the plugs. Hey wht2002gt, we have a pretty good mustang scene here in Dayton. I let you know when our next event is. Always nice to hear from a local.
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2002 GT 5sp
FRPP 4.10's, SCT Excalibur 2, ZEX wet nitrous system, MSD window, Eibach Sportsline, Mac Pro chamber and cat back, Steeda Tri-ax, HPM sub frame connectors, Mac CAI, IAC restrictor, March fluid dampener/UDP, HPM mega bite jr's, BBK strut tower brace, 18" Cobra R's, Dyno tuned by Dayton Perf.
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02-11-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Andy
Join Date: Jan 2007
City: Wapakoneta
State: Ohio
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that would be awesome let me know i can't wait
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02-11-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Mustang Evo NEWB
Join Date: Aug 2004
City: millville
State: New Jersey
Posts: 4,973
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Try pulling them out to see how they look before you try replacing them... it won't take long to fire off fuel buildup heh..
make sure the MAF is plugged in with your new CAI... did you have a screen in front of your MAF?
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1992 Mustang LX hatchback.. 1 of 542 black on black
2003 Regal GS - the beater/daily driver - somewhat stock. No its not a mustang, at least it's blown.
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02-18-2007, 03:17 PM
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Re: Car won't start
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
City: Dayton
State: Ohio
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Nothing I've tried seems to be working. I put new plugs in thinking I may have fouled them. I know I'm overlooking something stupid, but I can't seem to find it. Any suggestions?
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2002 GT 5sp
FRPP 4.10's, SCT Excalibur 2, ZEX wet nitrous system, MSD window, Eibach Sportsline, Mac Pro chamber and cat back, Steeda Tri-ax, HPM sub frame connectors, Mac CAI, IAC restrictor, March fluid dampener/UDP, HPM mega bite jr's, BBK strut tower brace, 18" Cobra R's, Dyno tuned by Dayton Perf.
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