Dodge Demon Concept

[bluemustang]

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[n8r]

I definately think its bad ass... Hold on, I'll get some good hi res pics of it, if ya'll care that much

[n8r]

Here they are. 56K, Go rebuild an engine.

[PureVenom]

Looks a little doofy with that front grill....other than that, doesn't look too bad. Would be nice competition for the Ford Cobra (the 2 seater) concept that was created a few years ago....if they would only make the damn thing already.

[n8r]

Its almost certain that when Dodge does a concept, it gets made. I am sure they will dial it down and refine it a bit before it gets done, but I like it. I'd drive it. They need to cram a Hemi in it.

[JROC]

It looks like a Viper raped a S2000 and out came this.

[Zim]

looks kinda like a bmw z4, and i fuckin hate those things.

[bluemustang]

i think it looks good

[Herbstang]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zim looks kinda like a bmw z4, and i fuckin hate those things.

+ 1

[SpectorV]

looks like a mix between a nissan 350z and a bmw z4 and the front grill is fugly

[bullitt482]

350z, meet the Viper, be sure to use a condom!
















Ooops. It broke.

[Thomas91169]

i think it looks pretty sweet. even better is if they go the srt route it will get 300hp 2.4 I4 Turbo thats been proving itself time and again in the srt4 world for making gobs of power and torque for a cheap price.

[Zim]

man why dont you just pull the motor from an srt4 and fuck it already?

You know what else makes gobs of power and torque for a cheap price? A built N/A 302

[bullitt482]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zim man why dont you just pull the motor from an srt4 and fuck it already? You know what else makes gobs of power and torque for a cheap price? A built N/A 302

I concur. I've seen too many of those motors pop with minimal mods to get any attention from me.


*Idea for a new thread*.

[Thomas91169]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zim man why dont you just pull the motor from an srt4 and fuck it already?

lol want to make everything a argument dont you?

the srt4 motor is a very good motor, but sadly its attached to fwd which puts a huge in my book. RWD is just so much funnerest than fwd, as its great for all around. FWD is only good on the freeway where you can get traction with that much power, AWD is only good from a dig since you need lots of power to make up for drivetrain loss and drag, RWD is comfortable on both grounds.

your 5.0 cant make 500hp without touching anything internally can it? that would be 100hp per liter. that little 2.4 in a srt4 can do almost 200hp per liter untouched. you dont have to like the car/motor to see its a pretty awesome feat of engineering.

Quote: Originally Posted by bullitt482 I concur. I've seen too many of those motors pop with minimal mods to get any attention from me.

it takes alot of stupidity and bad tuning to kill them. both of which are not the motors fault, its user error. if i increase all my timing and take out all the fuel i can with the Diablo dohickey and go out one day and melt some pistons, i guess thats the motors fault right?

[bullitt482]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thomas91169 lol want to make everything a argument dont you? the srt4 motor is a very good motor, but sadly its attached to fwd which puts a huge in my book. RWD is just so much funnerest than fwd, as its great for all around. FWD is only good on the freeway where you can get traction with that much power, AWD is only good from a dig since you need lots of power to make up for drivetrain loss and drag, RWD is comfortable on both grounds. your 5.0 cant make 500hp without touching anything internally can it? that would be 100hp per liter. that little 2.4 in a srt4 can do almost 200hp per liter untouched. you dont have to like the car/motor to see its a pretty awesome feat of engineering.

You are comparing an NA motor to a turbo motor. Talk about apples to oranges. And yes... you can make 500 reliable hp with a small turbo and a good tune on a 5.0. and it will make a hell of a lot more tq than that pesky little 2.4.



*edit* I have said it before and I will say it again. HP to displacement ratio is a ricers argument tool. You could imagine a motor that has a 5 to 1 ratio of hp to displacement, but guess what if its 20 ci, it only makes 100 hp. Doesn't impress me a bit.

[Zim]

how you gonna make 500hp on an srt without touching it?

[bullitt482]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zim how you gonna make 500hp on an srt without touching it?

Agreed, the last "450ish" hp i saw popped like a kernal in the microwave. And that was with a tune, t3/t3, big front mount, plenty of fuel, and a very responsible owner. His last race he took the motor apart and found 3 of the 4 pistons cracked and the 4th had a chunk missing.

[Thomas91169]

Quote: Originally Posted by bullitt482 You are comparing an NA motor to a turbo motor. Talk about apples to oranges.

im not the one who brought it up..........

Quote: Originally Posted by Zim You know what else makes gobs of power and torque for a cheap price? A built N/A 302

Quote: Originally Posted by bullitt482 And yes... you can make 500 reliable hp with a small turbo and a good tune on a 5.0. and it will make a hell of a lot more tq than that pesky little 2.4.

could be very true, but then again, this tread is about a DODGE DEMON. we are having a discussion about dodges. zim is the one who comes in here with his "Almighty 5.0" jargen. im just simply stating that if they do go the srt route it will be quite a beast.

Quote: Originally Posted by bullitt482 *edit* I have said it before and I will say it again. HP to displacement ratio is a ricers argument tool. You could imagine a motor that has a 5 to 1 ratio of hp to displacement, but guess what if its 20 ci, it only makes 100 hp. Doesn't impress me a bit.

yeah well its sad when people only think that torque/hp can be achieved with displacement. the fact is displacement means jack shit in todays world, coming into a dodge demon thread with 5.0's on your mind is pretty retarded.

Quote: Originally Posted by Zim how you gonna make 500hp on an srt without touching it?

internally numnuts. you dont have to touch ANYTHING inside the motor, no forged internals (already has it), no better studs to resist the head lifting off the block at higher boost levels, no having to replace the head gasket cause its only designed for sub 20psi levels. nothing about the motor from the oil pan to the valve cover needs to be touched in any way.

[n8r]

My e-penis is still the biggest

[bluemustang]

Quote: Originally Posted by n8r My e-penis is still the biggest

[Zim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thomas91169 zim is the one who comes in here with his "Almighty 5.0" jargen. im just simply stating that if they do go the srt route it will be quite a beast. internally numnuts. you dont have to touch ANYTHING inside the motor, no forged internals (already has it), no better studs to resist the head lifting off the block at higher boost levels, no having to replace the head gasket cause its only designed for sub 20psi levels. nothing about the motor from the oil pan to the valve cover needs to be touched in any way.

Where do you get that im coming in here with "almighty 5.0 jargen"? All i said is you can have gobs of power and tq from a 302 for cheap kinda like you're saying it about the srt's motor.

And you know what, you actually CAN put 500hp to a 302 on stock internals but you know what its gonna do? The same damn thing an untouched srt4 will do at 500hp, BLOW UP. You know why the srt's motor comes with forged shit from the factory? Cause if it didnt it would blow up already. Kinda shows you what they expect the limits on those things to be huh? Have to put forged shit in to make there what, 275hp or whatever they make? Sad. Id much rather have a n/a car making the same power as some turbo 4cyl

[Thomas91169]

Quote: Originally Posted by n8r My e-penis is still the biggest

im too sick to make a joke about this.