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04-20-2007, 03:14 AM
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Advocate of The Hyphy Movment
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well about to be... my tranny is officially slowly going.. doesnt drop to 4 gear (over drive) 1 gear lags.. ( engine speed increases then slowly grabs it) I need your guy's input. what should i do? get another aod. or should i go for a 5 spd swap? i kno i kno a lot of you would go 5spd but i would need a complete parts list etc etc. w/ aod i hear they suck anyway. break easily... input??
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04-20-2007, 04:09 AM
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Re: notch down
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
State: South Carolina
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I like to shift my own gears. How about a TKO600 if you have the bread. Still that might be overkill and a cheaper 5-speed might be better for you. |
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04-20-2007, 08:55 AM
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Re: notch down
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WTF^^...
Join Date: May 2003
City: Hoover / Florence
State: Alabama
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it should be a manual so look on the bright side, its a chance to fix the mistake of having an auto put in it to begin with 
A brand new stock T-5 will hold up good to 300-350rwhp if you take care of it and know how to drive.
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04-20-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: notch down
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Sometimes I feel Like a Nut!
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Dont listen to this auto haters, Just go to a tranny shop and asked if they can upgrade the internals of the tranny for you. Seeing as its going out its the perfect time.
My auto as it sits im sure will outshift any of these manual guys in a heartbeat (i dont have the supporting power at the moment but im sticking wit the whole comment)
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04-20-2007, 07:20 PM
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Resident A$$hole
Join Date: Apr 2006
City: Columbus
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I wouldn't recommend powershifting any T-5. TRUST ME!!!..
I'd change the fluid first just to be sure that isn't part of the problem. It could get to a point where you could save up and afford something better. I'd recommend an Art Carr. Here is a post to a dealer who could definately help you out.
DFWstangs Forums - Art Carr
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04-20-2007, 07:27 PM
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04-20-2007, 08:11 PM
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Bob is Good.
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Eh, throw a T5 in there. So much more fun to drive. |
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04-20-2007, 09:43 PM
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ME hometown supporter
Join Date: Feb 2005
City: Harvest
State: Alabama
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TKO 500.... in fact, i've got a brand new T5 if you want it, and i'll buy the TKO
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5.4 liters of pushrod 
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04-21-2007, 08:42 PM
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Re: notch down
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Advocate of The Hyphy Movment
Join Date: Aug 2005
City: V-a-L-L-e-j-o
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i dont think i can toy with a swap at this point.. i was doin some research n i came across that the stock aod ecu would work just need some supportin part eec (?)... n it would lag tho cuz the ecu would detect a supposed shift point.. is ths tru? n juss outta curiosity would neone know a site/someone that would give me a complete parts list.. i hav this site i juss dont kno if its for a sn95 auto-2- 5spd.. ill send u guys the link wen i get home.. im on my mobile so i cant access it..
what could i hav done to the aod to make it better? what specific parts would need to be updated? how do those ratchet shift kits work nehoo do they jus plugg on top of the shift tranny?
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04-30-2007, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
City: reynoldsburg
State: Ohio
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dude, that ecm verses tranny type is b.s. ...at least on a fox...aod is non-electric on a fox...you wont know the differnce. i'm run'n and aod on a manual computer...no hesitation, works just fine. the obd 2 systems the use an aod(e), are a lil more sensative to that sorta stuff (i think). with a fox u r fine... i have 4 computers 2auto..2 manual. personaly i cant tell the differnce with any of them. except for my 93 computer definatley makes adjustments faster than my 89 ecm...i think in 91 they changed to a processor they operates 15% faster than the previous...i have to look up to see wut year exactly though. i removed my t-5 and put in an aod...my best friend builds autos for police and taxi cars so i guesse im the lucky one in the forum when it comes to automatics...i got a p/a performance valvebody and 2500 stall converter. jegs sells heavy duty clutches for aod's..and there are some company that sell aftermarket spragues (heavy duty)...that is the part that is make'n your overdrive not work properly...it's near the tail of the tranny. |
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04-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Resident A$$hole
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Heavy duty clutches for an AOD? You mean converters? (Yes I know there are clutchpacks in the tranny) I don't see the point in rebuilding a stock one, when you can get a new one with warranty and all.
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05-02-2007, 10:27 AM
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they sell them at jegs..and dayco...as well as...h.d. spragues and servos...seriously...if u know a builder u can buy the stuff and have it put in cheaper than buying a new unit....i'm just lucky cause my best friend builds them for a living...i got a 1600 dollar unit with 300 dollars in it...of course my friend built it for free all i had to do was buy the parts |
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05-02-2007, 10:33 AM
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btw, i know im not the only one here who gets 5.0 mag....im not make'n this stuff up..yes clutches and clutch plates...not converter(s)...look in the jegs catalogue or dayco tranny...my friend that builds says the h.d. clutches r a waist of money and all u need is the h.d. sprague...he said the h.d. servos are not good on a street car. |
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05-02-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: notch down
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Advocate of The Hyphy Movment
Join Date: Aug 2005
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svt ask your buddy what other parts i can use. im plannin on atleast 350rwhp on a daily driven car.. where theres a lot of idling due to traffic n things of that nature.. appriciate it bruh.
also would a 25000tq converter be ok in a daily/traffic driven car?
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05-02-2007, 01:09 PM
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Sometimes I feel Like a Nut!
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What I did to get my tranny done was going to a really good trannny shop ( i happen at the time to deliver to one) so I went with them told them what my future plans on the car is and they just did it up for me. The car itself with a done up tranny is a beast in its own right.
I have a 3K stall on my car really doesnt bother me much but then again its been a good 2 years since Ive driven my car (  ).
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05-02-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: notch down
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Resident A$$hole
Join Date: Apr 2006
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State: Mississippi
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You think I get all my knowledge from a magazine????? LOL You crack me up.
Riddle me this batman, two questions then. What do you do when your stock valve lash is out of spec? And in the aftermarket world, with pedestal mount adjustable rockers, what is the correct valve lash for a hydraulic roller motor?
Please don't google it. 
And there is no way I would just change just the sprags out in a stock AOD and expect it to hold up to some decent power(400+ at the motor, I don't use at the wheels because it varies)
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05-03-2007, 09:41 PM
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ME hometown supporter
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correct vavle lash would be about 1/4 to 1/2 additional turn once the pushrod is finger tight... or in other words pushing the plunger down about 10-30 thousanths will work.
not sure about stock being out of spec, suppose i would have the vavles reground and throw some new lifters and pushrods in there. check rockers for improper wear and replace if needed.. but im a little overkill
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05-03-2007, 09:45 PM
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ME hometown supporter
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are we going supercharger, nitrous, turbo or stroker?
and a 25,000 K would be alot of stall for the street, however 2,500 would be just fine  but i'd go with at least a 3,500 or more.
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05-04-2007, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by powerhungry966
svt ask your buddy what other parts i can use. im plannin on atleast 350rwhp on a daily driven car.. where theres a lot of idling due to traffic n things of that nature.. appriciate it bruh.
also would a 25000tq converter be ok in a daily/traffic driven car? | | | |
