wanted:450hp normally aspirated

[valentine1]

I have an 06' gt that I'm very proud of like most of us, but I'm tired of looking stupid being left behind at the lights.I have already done a lot of the easy helpful breathing add-ons.I.E. K&N cold air in take, magnaflow catless x-pipe, corsa mufflers, SCT custom tune done right off a dyno.Plus springs and control arms for hook up. I WANT SOME BIG HAIRY BALLS OUT OF THAT CAR!What else do I need to do without bottles, chargers, or turbo's to get 450hp normally aspirated?

[matthews.stang]

Quote: Originally Posted by valentine1 I have an 06' gt that I'm very proud of like most of us, but I'm tired of looking stupid being left behind at the lights.I have already done a lot of the easy helpful breathing add-ons.I.E. K&N cold air in take, magnaflow catless x-pipe, corsa mufflers, SCT custom tune done right off a dyno.Plus springs and control arms for hook up. I WANT SOME BIG HAIRY BALLS OUT OF THAT CAR!What else do I need to do without bottles, chargers, or turbo's to get 450hp normally aspirated?

H/C/I.

You'll have to wait for more companies to figure out this new engine design.

[SpectorV]

Your only option to do it N/A is to build the engine or swap out to a 4v dohc engine~

[bullitt482]

Or a carburated 408 with afr 205's (or you could do the whole EFI swap and have an EFI 408 in an 05 up)

[Y2E0L0L5OGWT]

Get Blown...thats about your only option right now if you want to keep the 3V...

on another note, fyi, 20-in chrome wheels weigh a TON and aren't very condusive to straight line speed as far as drag racing goes...

[rmays06]

Its almost impossible to hit 300 RWHP with bolt ons, H/C/I are going to gain no where close to 450RWHP besides why spend all that loot for minimal gains. You can drop $6K in the car and have 475 RWHP tomorrow with a KB or Whipple. Until the aftermarket builders catch up 450 will be hard.

[1996stang]

Quote: Originally Posted by rmays06 Its almost impossible to hit 300 RWHP with bolt ons, H/C/I are going to gain no where close to 450RWHP besides why spend all that loot for minimal gains. You can drop $6K in the car and have 475 RWHP tomorrow with a KB or Whipple. Until the aftermarket builders catch up 450 will be hard.

impossible too hit 300rwhp on a 3v with bolt ons? who dynoed your car? I watched one dyno personally bone stock that made 272hp 304ftlbs surely too god with bolt ons it could gain 28hp.

[Y2E0L0L5OGWT]

Quote: Originally Posted by rmays06 Its almost impossible to hit 300 RWHP with bolt ons, H/C/I are going to gain no where close to 450RWHP besides why spend all that loot for minimal gains. You can drop $6K in the car and have 475 RWHP tomorrow with a KB or Whipple. Until the aftermarket builders catch up 450 will be hard.

intake, throttle body, throttle body spacer, udp's, cat-back exhaust and a hand-held turner (i.e. SCT or Diablosport) will get you between 310 and 325 rwhp, so im not sure where you got your info, but those are all bolt-ons, and have been done many times...

[JROC]

I know Thomas will agree, but you can achieve this goal of 450 N/A whp with an LS motor.

[bbunt302]

Swap in a stroked Windsor.

You might be able to squeeze that out of a worked over 5.4L too, but that's gonna be money.

[rmays06]

Yep, your right its easy! Impossible was a strong statement.

Quote: intake, throttle body, throttle body spacer, udp's, cat-back exhaust and a hand-held turner (i.e. SCT or Diablosport) will get you between 310 and 325 rwhp

On a dyno Jet!

Stock these cars are 255 and below auto to 270 and below Stick....45 HP to 30Hp isn't easy.
272HP bone stock? Nice factory ride there. Goiod for him, hes one of the few.
300HP -18%= 246 auto
300HP -12%= 264 stick
Yes its doable but harder than you think. You can spend alot and have it be hard to hit 300....so 450 will take alot.

[valentine1]

If I was to do any motor swap I would get the cobra motor. I do want to supercharge it but I wanted to build a better foundation than just the stock motor.About the wheels, I don't like these rims they came with the car.I would love to get some one piece aluminum. Thanks for all the feed back.

[lowflyn]

Quote: Originally Posted by rmays06 Yep, your right its easy! Impossible was a strong statement. On a dyno Jet! Stock these cars are 255 and below auto to 270 and below Stick....45 HP to 30Hp isn't easy. 272HP bone stock? Nice factory ride there. Goiod for him, hes one of the few. 300HP -18%= 246 auto 300HP -12%= 264 stick Yes its doable but harder than you think. You can spend alot and have it be hard to hit 300....so 450 will take alot.

Let's not start arguing about so and so who put down xxx amount of power on some random dyno.

Point is, all dyno's are different.

The second point is you can see real gains with bolt-ons in the 3v's.

The third point is...you're not gonna see mid 400's without FI.

[DarkShadow]

Don't be afraid of all that extra air being forcefully rammed down a tiny little hole into your unsuspecting engine at velocities great enough to rip off a weaker car's heads.

[rmays06]

GOOD POINT...lol

and yes don't get scared of the F/I set up!

[hottcobra]

don't be afraid of the bottle. just look at the post on the fourm "wanted 05 track times"

[toolttime]

This crate modular will be available from Roush soon. Naturally aspirated!!!

[rydog]

Quote: Originally Posted by toolttime This crate modular will be available from Roush soon. Naturally aspirated!!!

For like what 20k Damn

[matthews.stang]

Quote: Originally Posted by rydog For like what 20k Damn