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06-01-2008, 05:15 PM
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how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
State: Illinois
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ok so i have a stock 94 gt with 4.10 gears and a factory h-pipe, flowmaster tips ??
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06-01-2008, 05:24 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Pizza Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
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State: Pennsylvania
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CAI, UD pullies, chip, tune
chip and tune will help you get the most out of your gears tho. |
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06-01-2008, 05:27 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
State: Illinois
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were can i get a chip at cause that is wat ive been hearing ?
and i also heard of aluminum heads but there exspensive lol |
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06-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
State: Illinois
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06-01-2008, 09:37 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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I don't think that's gonna buff out
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Cold Air Intake....MAC and BBK are some manufacturers. Your best bet with the chip is to go get a dyno tune, it will be the best because it is burned specifically for your car. |
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06-01-2008, 10:21 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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ME hometown supporter
Join Date: Jan 2005
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State: Alabama
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I wouldn't tune a stock engine, you could run premium and bump the timing some yourself.
if you want to make a little more power and sound good at the same time, do headers and an H-pipe, possibly cat-less if you can.
cold air kits will net you no gain... unless you have enough mods to warrent a 4" setup, in this case no.
dont spend any serious money (dyno-tune or whatever) until you decide to get those expensive aluminum heads, also don't expect to really pickup any serious gains without doing the expensive aluminum heads or a blower. it can be done but by the time you spend all of the little money parts you might have as well bought the good stuff.
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06-01-2008, 10:52 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
State: Illinois
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yeah i think i will just save up some money and get that good stuff lol
but right now my tranny is out so were just going to change it to a 5-speed hopefully it will get a little quicker??? |
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06-02-2008, 07:43 AM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
City: mishawaka
State: Indiana
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yeah youll gain some power from a 5-speed... honestly with a 5.0 a computer prob isnt worth it... summit has some stuff for it though... from intakes to cams to heads... they actually have a 350 hp package that is i think around 3k that has the intake cam and heads together...  thats over 50% increase
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06-02-2008, 07:44 AM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
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depending on how much you know (or can do yourself) a cam swap (with full exhaust and intake) would be my suggestion... cams for the pushrod motors are dirt cheap...
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"1965" Mustang Coupe
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06-02-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: how to go fatser
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WTF^^...
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Heads/Cam/Intakes (dont right) with a short block engine rebuild and you should be good to go engine wise.
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06-02-2008, 03:58 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
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will a tranny from a 1994 or 95 f150 aode transmission work it had a 351 windsor motor in it and i was wanting to no if it would work with my 1994 mustang gt,302?? |
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06-02-2008, 07:45 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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ME hometown supporter
Join Date: Jan 2005
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a cam is the worst major mod for a stock engine that you can do, stay away from it until you get other parts first, then it will become benificial, I know tons of stock cammed N/A cars that are running 12's and faster. a big cube car is another story.
seriously tell us how much you want to spend, how fast you want to go, and we'll go from there. and yes, a t-5 will be an awsome upgrade from an auto.. you will be happy with that one
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06-02-2008, 11:08 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
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i dont agree in the slightest... maybe a 4.6 but not a 5.0... dollar for dollar its hard to beat (just dont go to radical where you have to change springs and such...) the cam is the heart of your engine it lets fuel in and out... the more lift... the more flow... easy as that
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2003 GT- slp catted X, slp LM2, mgw shifter, K&N drop-in, sniper tuned, cobra rims w/ yokos, Ford Racing springs- 13.98@100.8
1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z
"1965" Mustang Coupe
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06-03-2008, 03:58 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
State: Illinois
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i am wanting to spend maybe 500$ thats about all i have saved up any thing i can do for that ? |
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06-03-2008, 08:06 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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id look for bolt ons... exhaust, udp... maybe gears but that install would be more...
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2003 GT- slp catted X, slp LM2, mgw shifter, K&N drop-in, sniper tuned, cobra rims w/ yokos, Ford Racing springs- 13.98@100.8
1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z
"1965" Mustang Coupe
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06-03-2008, 10:03 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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ME hometown supporter
Join Date: Jan 2005
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well im going to agree to disagree. with stock e7's you will gain very little with an OTS cam. probably not worth the time you'll take to re-measure pushrod length due to cam core base tolerances, adding more lift to heads that are already maxed out at .400" lift will acomplish nothing. installing a cam that will rev to 6,000 rpm with heads that run out of steam at 4,000 will also not do much for you, but it did kill out the operating range of the original cam. BTW a cam doesn't control how much fuel goes in and out, it does however control dynamic compression ratios, timing of intake/exhaust, duration of those events and how much scavaging takes place during overlap. it controls how fast and often a sonic wave runs across your intake to the trottlebody and the intake valve via knowledge of runner length and volume. it does so many things that I am only begining to understand myself, and anyone on the board that claims to be able to pick a cam based off of engine size and heads alone is either trying to sell you something or is a bigger fool than I. however if you do decide to go with some good heads, I know a good custom guy, he'll even pick the best OTS cam to suite your combo if thats the route your going to take, but personally besides a junker motor i will never build another one without going custom.
if you do a little research you will see there are guys going 11's with stock cams in street cars, faster than that via pure street, but thats another story all together.
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06-04-2008, 07:16 AM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
City: mishawaka
State: Indiana
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i dont think he is talking about making a 9 second drag car or even a 12 second street car... if he only has 500$ like i stated earlier then i would do some bolt ons... BUT the higher the lift on the came the more time the valve will be open...
but i don't see why a bolt up cam wouldnt add 20 or so hp... such as: Edelbrock.com - Ford Small Block Camshafts and Matching Components
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2003 GT- slp catted X, slp LM2, mgw shifter, K&N drop-in, sniper tuned, cobra rims w/ yokos, Ford Racing springs- 13.98@100.8
1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z
"1965" Mustang Coupe
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06-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: east alton
State: Illinois
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will a tranny from a 1994 f150 aode transmission work it had a 351 windsor motor in it and i was wanting to no if it would work with my 1994 mustang gt, |
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06-04-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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mikemustang
Join Date: Jun 2008
City: new bedford
State: Massachusetts
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heads, cam, intake then after blower!! go big thats what i say lol |
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06-04-2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Originally Posted by silverstangboy
well im going to agree to disagree. with stock e7's you will gain very little with an OTS cam. probably not worth the time you'll take to re-measure pushrod length due to cam core base tolerances, adding more lift to heads that are already maxed out at .400" lift will acomplish nothing. installing a cam that will rev to 6,000 rpm with heads that run out of steam at 4,000 will also not do much for you, but it did kill out the operating range of the original cam. BTW a cam doesn't control how much fuel goes in and out, it does however control dynamic compression ratios, timing of intake/exhaust, duration of those events and how much scavaging takes place during overlap. it controls how fast and often a sonic wave runs across your intake to the trottlebody and the intake valve via knowledge of runner length and volume. it does so many things that I am only begining to understand myself, and anyone on the board that claims to be able to pick a cam based off of engine size and heads alone is either trying to sell you something or is a bigger fool than I. however if you do decide to go with some good heads, I know a good custom guy, he'll even pick the best OTS cam to suite your combo if thats the route your going to take, but personally besides a junker motor i will never build another one without going custom.
if you do a little research you will see there are guys going 11's with stock cams in street cars, faster than that via pure street, but thats another story all together.
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are these sonic waves turbulant or laminar? i find this entire paragraph to be ludicrus... have you ever seen a wind tunnel?
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2003 GT- slp catted X, slp LM2, mgw shifter, K&N drop-in, sniper tuned, cobra rims w/ yokos, Ford Racing springs- 13.98@100.8
1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z
"1965" Mustang Coupe
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06-05-2008, 07:35 AM
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Re: how to go fatser
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Deranged
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Mr. Negative strikes again  But at least you don't hesitate to speak your mind because you nothing to lose.
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