Welcome to Mustang Evolution.
|
  |
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 07:06 PM
|
#1
|
|
  |
|
Roots blower v2.0 *UPDATE*
|
|
zoom zoom
Join Date: Jul 2003
City: College Station, TX
Posts: 2,613
|
Split port guys:
We ditched the adaption plate because we initially couldn't get the clearance. We then tried seeing how it would be to mill down the lower intake and redo the adaption plate. However, for the price of 1) buying the lower intakes and taking customers' as cores, 2) milling it down and matching it right, and 3) take the time to custom do each one, we decided to just make a custom lower that will accept a roots blower.
As you may be thinking, yes this will require more R&D, but it is coming along nicely and will go into final testing within 2 months unless we have more delays, which I can't see what would go wrong at this point except production delays but that's very unlikely.
Single/Split port guys read on:
"Guys, I have heard people with prochargers running 5psi on split port before they got fuel upgrades. How many psi can you run on a single port sense it has 14lb's on it? It will take time for us to get all of the money for the fuel parts, if we could test a 5psi starter kit that would go 5-600, start selling it. When we can test 7psi version, I will send out 7psi pulley when people buy fuel upgrades. I can have that done farely soon and the split port kit will be up for sale at the same time the single port will be.
So if that is possible:
Here what the new pricing will be:
Starter kit (Split and single port):
Lower intake
Blower intake plenum
5psi pulley
New drive belt
Eaton m90 SC
Price: $500+150 corecharge for blower.
Then you can get for $500 more fuel upgrades along with 7psi pulley.
Fuel upgrades include:
30lb/hr injectors
255/300lph pump
80mm MAF
F3 Fordchip
Sounds good?"
Other options will be 42/50# inj. depending on your setup, but 30#ers will be fine for almost all setups.
And, of course, PICS! They are CNC files, most are correct but obviously this isn't all of them, but all of them that SpeedKillz managed to put online.

__________________
-austin
|
|
|
|
 
11-18-2003, 08:01 PM
|
#2
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
City: La Plata, MD
Posts: 144
|
sounds very good 
__________________
2000 Mustang....
~ Performance Red, New Mach 1 (Mag 500) rims, Dual Flowmaster Exhaust, Black Letters & Rocker stripes, Sony - Rockford Fosgate system
-Billy
|
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 08:18 PM
|
#3
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Eyes So Tight I Pass For An Asian
Join Date: May 2003
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Posts: 27,550
|
|
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 08:18 PM
|
#4
|
|
  |
|
|
|
God
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: DFW, TX
Posts: 3,189
|
ok, on the lower intake that you showed there.. each side has 4 ports. thats not right. i know each side has an extra hole for coolant to flow, however, if youre gonna have an open lower intake manifold like that design, youre gonna have to eliminate the coolant passage
__________________
**I have sigs turned off, so if you're asking for advice based on your mods, I can't see them**
|
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 08:20 PM
|
#5
|
|
  |
|
|
|
postarama
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Southaven
State: Mississippi
Posts: 24,430
|
Ha nice design there man.
__________________
"I'm not driving too fast...just flying too low"
Mine:
-87 ranger- broke
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project
|
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 08:28 PM
|
#6
|
|
  |
|
|
|
zoom zoom
Join Date: Jul 2003
City: College Station, TX
Posts: 2,613
|
yeah that is one of the things wrong with the initial cnc, talk about somethign to change! most everything /should/ be taken care of now but only testing will tell. you probably didn't read it but i was trying to say that the pictures aren't the final thing... heh.
|
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 09:01 PM
|
#7
|
|
  |
|
|
|
God
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: DFW, TX
Posts: 3,189
|
hahah. good call. i just advance to pictures if theyre there.
EDIT: prolly should read it all since im the mod, but i trust y'all 8) 
__________________
**I have sigs turned off, so if you're asking for advice based on your mods, I can't see them**
|
|
|
|
11-18-2003, 09:02 PM
|
#8
|
|
  |
|
|
|
postarama
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Southaven
State: Mississippi
Posts: 24,430
|
Ha ha, well yeh, i think we all do
__________________
"I'm not driving too fast...just flying too low"
Mine:
-87 ranger- broke
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project
|
|
|
|
11-28-2003, 12:31 PM
|
#9
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 95
|
looks good! For the coolant ports... have AN fittings welded in the holes you'll
mill for that and just run AN line between the appropriate fittings. That's what I
would do.
edit: oh yeah, and thermo housing needs to be taken care of 
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 01:15 AM
|
#10
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Senior Tech Advisor
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Burlington, NC
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,685
|
What about the compression ratio of the stock engines for running these SC blowers, arent' they a little too high? SC engines have dished low compression pistions in them, and forged cranks too right???
__________________
 Rick Kilpatrick, AAS Automotive Systems Tech, Alamance Community College, Class of 99. 06 5 speed manual Mustang with Pony pkg : GT Mac Mufflers, true duals with one custom pipe. 2.5" system. GT bumper cover, all installed March 7&8 2006. AFE Stage 1 CAI, Motoblue Underdrive pulley, GT aluminum shifter knob, honeycomb rear blackout panel,and dash kit installed. Roush hood scoop and side window louvers installed. SS taillight trim has been installed, new alum. GT steering wheel installed.
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 08:06 AM
|
#11
|
|
  |
|
|
|
The Mustang's Human Twin
Join Date: May 2003
City: Terre Haute, SC for a bit
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,638
|
 |
 |
 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikael
looks good! For the coolant ports... have AN fittings welded in the holes you'll
mill for that and just run AN line between the appropriate fittings. That's what I
would do.
edit: oh yeah, and thermo housing needs to be taken care of 
|
 |
 |
 |
Great idea Mik! That would reduce the lower intake heating
and produce a bit more HP/Tq. than a lower with coolant
flowing in there thru a passage. But it would need a deal
behind the thermo housing. SK had it as a wall between the
plenum and the coolant passage, easy to do but adds heat.
__________________
Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 11:41 AM
|
#12
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
|
i have a couple stupid questions,
what does the $150 core charge for the blower mean? how would we have a core?
what is total out of pocket without fuel upgrade? $650??
can i get the kit without the blower? (i work for eaton)
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 11:41 AM
|
#13
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
|
i have a couple stupid questions,
what does the $150 core charge for the blower mean? how would we have a core?
what is total out of pocket without fuel upgrade? $650??
can i get the kit without the blower? (i work for eaton)
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 12:33 PM
|
#14
|
|
  |
|
|
|
The Mustang's Human Twin
Join Date: May 2003
City: Terre Haute, SC for a bit
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,638
|
the 150 is if U need the blower from SK.
U do not pay that if U supply the blower.
__________________
Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 12:38 PM
|
#15
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
|
so $500 if i supply blower, or $650 if i get the blower with the kit?
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 12:38 PM
|
#16
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
|
so $500 if i supply blower, or $650 if i get the blower with the kit?
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 12:42 PM
|
#17
|
|
  |
|
|
|
The Mustang's Human Twin
Join Date: May 2003
City: Terre Haute, SC for a bit
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,638
|
__________________
Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 12:44 PM
|
#18
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
|
f***, why did i sell my 6 then? f*** f*** f***
i had no idea the sc was so cheap
those z28 plans may get put on hold
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 04:03 PM
|
#19
|
|
  |
|
|
|
FDNY 343 9-11-01
Join Date: May 2003
City: Fishers
State: Indiana
Posts: 5,414
|
humm, thats cheap.. I need to read more about this!
__________________
Charles -Never forget, Freedom is not Free. FDNY 343 9-11-01
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 09:19 PM
|
#20
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Eyes So Tight I Pass For An Asian
Join Date: May 2003
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Posts: 27,550
|
any plans to do something like this with a single port? Or is there some reason you cant do it?
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 09:20 PM
|
#21
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
|
from what i have read, it will be for both single and split port
|
|
|
|
11-29-2003, 09:45 PM
|
#22
|
|
  |
|
|
|
Eyes So Tight I Pass For An Asian
Join Date: May 2003
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Posts: 27,550
|
| | |