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04-29-2004, 10:10 PM
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Mac H-pipe and a pacesetter
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
Posts: 97
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I want an offroad hpipe for my gt exhaust and was wondering what the consequences are of not getting a catylac version. Will it work? What exactly is a pacesetter and will i need one. details on where I could get one would be appreciated. any suggestions?? |
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04-29-2004, 10:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
Posts: 4,689
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I jsut put the pacesetter conversion on my car, basically you cut the stock y pipe and this bolts up tight behind the cats. and then a GT style catback bolts to it. Off road h pipe replaces between the headers/manifolds, and the cat back with no cats on it. You will need a chip or MIL eliminators if you use the o/r pipe. other wise your check engine light comes on.
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04-30-2004, 12:02 AM
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Eyes So Tight I Pass For An Asian
Join Date: May 2003
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Posts: 27,139
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The cats are required to pass emission tests. I dont know what Illinois laws are but In Alabama they dont care what you do to your car basically lol. California is much different. But other than that and the MIL's you need to buy for the check engine light nothing else is needed. |
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04-30-2004, 12:19 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Is there a way to get long tubes and keep all 4 cats? I live in california, but I want longtube headers. Could I just get some shop to custom pipe it? or do the longtubes go down to where the first cats are. |
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04-30-2004, 12:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
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long tubes come all the way back to the transmission, from what i have heard Longtubes are not emissons legal. but you can get an h pipe with 2 high flow cats.
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04-30-2004, 02:27 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
Posts: 97
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so what is a pacesetter conversion and where can i get one when i get the gt exhaust? thanks for the information earlier |
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04-30-2004, 04:19 PM
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Senior Tech Advisor
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Burlington, NC
State: North Carolina
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 Rick Kilpatrick, AAS Automotive Systems Tech, Alamance Community College, Class of 99. 06 5 speed manual Mustang with Pony pkg : GT Mac Mufflers, true duals with one custom pipe. 2.5" system. GT bumper cover, all installed March 7&8 2006. AFE Stage 1 CAI, Motoblue Underdrive pulley, GT aluminum shifter knob, honeycomb rear blackout panel,and dash kit installed. Roush hood scoop and side window louvers installed. SS taillight trim has been installed, new alum. GT steering wheel installed.
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04-30-2004, 05:26 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
Posts: 97
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thanks 01mineralgrey and rick. When I get the pacesetter will i still need to get an hpipe or is that it? sorry im new to this. just asking some questions. |
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04-30-2004, 07:07 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
Posts: 97
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I actually dont need an hpipe do I? just read an article on that crap on v6stangs.com |
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04-30-2004, 07:31 PM
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Ero-Sennin
Join Date: Jul 2003
City: Murfreesboro
State: Tennessee
Posts: 4,547
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if you get the pacesetter you won't need the h pipe. they do the same thing, and go in the same spot
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04-30-2004, 09:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
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Yeah you really don't NEED a cross over at all. The firing order is different on the 6 as apposed to the v8. So you could really just have the y cut at the cats and go straight back with no cross over.
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04-30-2004, 09:15 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
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by crossover u mean hpipe, but does that also include pacesetter |
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04-30-2004, 11:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
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Pacesetter is the brand, Crossover pipes would be an H-pipe or a X-pipe, ill try to get a pic of the pacesetter adapter tomorrow 
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04-30-2004, 11:35 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
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thank you. u r makin this alot easier man. geeez |
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04-30-2004, 11:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
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No problem... thats what we're here for
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05-01-2004, 11:36 AM
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Senior Tech Advisor
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Burlington, NC
State: North Carolina
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I wouldn't really recommend getting an offroad pipe, it could cause you problems with emissions inspections, even safety inspection, and it will cause you problems if you try to trade the car in like that for sure. In other words, if you must mess with the cats, at least keep two high flows on and have it emissions legal, it will still perform about as well, and won't have the other implications.
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Rick Kilpatrick, AAS Automotive Systems Tech, Alamance Community College, Class of 99. 06 5 speed manual Mustang with Pony pkg : GT Mac Mufflers, true duals with one custom pipe. 2.5" system. GT bumper cover, all installed March 7&8 2006. AFE Stage 1 CAI, Motoblue Underdrive pulley, GT aluminum shifter knob, honeycomb rear blackout panel,and dash kit installed. Roush hood scoop and side window louvers installed. SS taillight trim has been installed, new alum. GT steering wheel installed.
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05-01-2004, 05:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
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ok here are the pics i was able to take. not much cuz my friend has my jack, so i drove up on some bricks  ,lol....
In the 1st pic thats right behind the cats on the modified y pipe, and the 2nd pic shows it as a whole
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05-02-2004, 12:04 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
Posts: 97
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geez man. thanks, puts this shit in perspective. u all helped alot thanks. tony, you got the mac catted h on yours or not
Last edited by TBone; 05-02-2004 at 12:06 PM.
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05-02-2004, 12:44 PM
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Senior Tech Advisor
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Burlington, NC
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,685
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I have a Mac Catted H on my GT, I had to end up putting Mils emilinators on the O2 sensors because I kept on getting CES lights all the time with high flow cats on there, apparently there was enough extra pollution getting past the high flow cats to make the O2s think it was polluting too much.
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Rick Kilpatrick, AAS Automotive Systems Tech, Alamance Community College, Class of 99. 06 5 speed manual Mustang with Pony pkg : GT Mac Mufflers, true duals with one custom pipe. 2.5" system. GT bumper cover, all installed March 7&8 2006. AFE Stage 1 CAI, Motoblue Underdrive pulley, GT aluminum shifter knob, honeycomb rear blackout panel,and dash kit installed. Roush hood scoop and side window louvers installed. SS taillight trim has been installed, new alum. GT steering wheel installed.
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05-02-2004, 06:57 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
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that sucks, i think ima just have an exhaust shop worry about it. get a custom h. thanks man |
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05-02-2004, 08:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
Posts: 4,689
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THats the pacesetter adapter.... its hard to see from that angle.
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05-30-2004, 06:41 PM
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Stang Bangin
Join Date: Apr 2004
City: Peoria IL
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05-30-2004, 10:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
Posts: 4,689
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if you don't have duals yet yes.... ummm, you need a pass muffler hanger and the 2 rear tail pip hangers, but no hangers needed for the mid pipe.This is the guy i got my hangers from, bout the same price if you went to the dealer ship.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=4169433705
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