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05-08-2004, 04:31 AM
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Best CAI!
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Toss my salad, please!
Join Date: May 2004
City: Baltimore MD
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05-08-2004, 09:59 AM
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Boost Please!
Join Date: Jul 2003
City: Hackettstown
State: New Jersey
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damn, some very good gains
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2003 DSG Cobra Build # 6448 of 8394 Born on 04/07/2003
1995 Black Mustang GT
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05-08-2004, 12:01 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
Join Date: May 2003
City: Simpsonville
State: South Carolina
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I gained 6 RWHP with the Densecharger on the Dyno I changed to a MAC and did not loose a thing????? Now saying that being that I have a 98 I did not have a full length but a meter forward so I cannot say without a doubt the full length on the 99+ does not make better HP
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05-08-2004, 07:34 PM
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NITERYDER
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Cali
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so wut do you guys prefer: A densecharger or MAC cold air intake? and why? |
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05-10-2004, 05:06 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
Join Date: May 2003
City: Simpsonville
State: South Carolina
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99+ go with a full length Densecharger unless you want the bling then go with a MAC or a cheap clone
94-98 MAC or cheap clone
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05-11-2004, 03:51 PM
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FormerMod
Join Date: May 2003
City: Riverside County, CA
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Spend 50 bucks on eBay and get the same performance gains... AND the bling bling  |
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05-11-2004, 03:57 PM
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NITERYDER
Join Date: Aug 2003
City: Cali
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DO all intakes give the same performance. Like for instance which CAI gives better performance: the densecharger or MAC? |
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05-11-2004, 04:58 PM
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You want to **** me?
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Kansas City
State: Missouri
Posts: 12,414
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the full length densecharger will probably give you a slightly higher gain than the mac... however I dont know about the meter forward densecharger. All i know is when i ordered mine, i talked to John personally and the guy gave me an upgraded filter for no charge. That guy strives for customer satisfaction, and personally Id give my money to him because of just that.
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05-11-2004, 05:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 984
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If I'd ever do it again, id look at the K&N FIPK. The mac is ok, just too much money spent on it being bling. Densecharger *could* cause MAF sampling issues. I have no proof on the v6, but GT guys have been complaining about the sharp bend right before the maf. (this also exists on the GT mac cai, but our design is different, so who knows).
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05-11-2004, 05:34 PM
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Mustang Freak
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Davenport, IA
State: Iowa
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According to Alberto at American Motorsports (The guy I'm getting a chip from on the suggestion of RGR) the 90* bend before the MAF can cause up to a 3% variance in the MAF reading, which can cause the A/F ratio to be off up to about 3 points.
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05-11-2004, 05:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Gulf Breeze
State: Florida
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thats what ive heard...thats why i decided to get the FIPK. I love it
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'99 cobra 'vert
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05-11-2004, 07:57 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2003
City: Severn, MD
State: Maryland
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you have to remember, those tests were done on a forced induction car, which will benefit from the slightest change of air temperature
in an N/A car, there is only so much temperature can do to effect the performance
in a forced induction car, the air gets "super heated" when its compressed, which pushes air temperatures to at times well over 200* over ambiant, and even say a 20 degree drop in temperature could help drop air temperatures enough to make a serious power difference, thats why forced induction cars that are intercooled can make so much more power than non-intercooled
a friend of my put a power stroke intercooler in his daytona, and that cooler kept air temps usually around ambiant temperatures, and on cooler nights, it was actually colder than ambiant, the car would just rip, never had a hint of detonation or anything |
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05-12-2004, 07:19 AM
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Taking life one day at a time
Join Date: May 2003
City: Simpsonville
State: South Carolina
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If you have O3- 04 Cobra you do not under any circumstance get a CAI with a bend before the MAF. There have been several documented problems with surging at Idle and off the line momentary hesitation.
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