Nitrous

Laser02 · **Nitrous**

#1: How can I run two bottles?

#2: How hard is it to install direct-port injection on our cars?

Zim · 07-07-2004, 10:31 PM

I know nothing about direct port... but why do you want to go that route? Its more expensive, harder to install, and you really cant give it any higher of a shot that a wet or dry single stage kit without forged internals and stronger block etc etc

Laser02 · 07-07-2004, 10:36 PM

I know there isn't any -real- advantage, besides being able to more finely tune it. But I'm not concerned with the cost and it just looks so "tyter." I love to see all the nitrous plumbing directly into each intake port. That's the main reason for me wanting to do direct-port.

Zim · 07-07-2004, 10:44 PM

yeah it does look sweet... id try talkin to justin from VMP, he knows quite a lot about nitrous since hes a dealer

bigpomps · 07-07-2004, 11:27 PM

to run two bottles of nitrous involves taping the two lines that come out of the bottle into one line but it involves a regulator to regulate the flow of nitrous to the nozzels. it won't give you any more horsepower but your bottles will last longer.

Laser02 · 07-07-2004, 11:30 PM

Makes sense. Nitrous bottles don't have regulators on them already?

tire · 07-08-2004, 10:27 AM

oh boy another ricer.


Quote: Originally Posted by ZimStang yeah it does look sweet... id try talkin to justin from VMP, he knows quite a lot about nitrous since hes a dealer

what he said.

putting direct port n2o on a stock v6 is like feeding caviar (sp?) to a homeless bum. he'd be happy with just a sandwich ya know.

Laser02 · 07-08-2004, 09:00 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by tire oh boy another ricer.

Here's a tip: Fuck you.


Quote: Originally Posted by tire putting direct port n2o on a stock v6 is like feeding caviar (sp?) to a homeless bum. he'd be happy with just a sandwich ya know.

You're going to critique my purchasing a direct-port kit that has nothing but advantages over a normal kit just because... I can afford it? Get a job you jealous bitch.

Monkey · 07-08-2004, 09:00 PM

direct port nitrous is safer on all cars especially 99+ v6 mustangs. The reason is because nitrous leans out on the corner cylinders (1,3,4,6) and runs rich in the middle two (2,5). Anyway, a single fogger style system is hard to tune a large (over 100) shot because of that. especially with the split port which has 2 runners per cylinder which is twice the error possiblity.

Furthermore, the shots are different with direct port. You run 60,90,120 shots, and a 120 direct port nitrous shot is safe on the stock engine (just as safe as the 100 fogger system shot... it's safe but at the absolut limit and not something you go around doing all the time)

To get a dp n2o setup, you will need some custom fabrication because you will need something like an intake spacer.... however it has to be used to lift up the lower intake off the heads instead of the upper off the lower. the individual fogger units are sprayed into each combustion chamber in the head.

I hope this helps, if not, ask more questions

Laser02 · 07-08-2004, 09:07 PM


Quote: Originally Posted by Monkey direct port nitrous is safer on all cars especially 99+ v6 mustangs. The reason is because nitrous leans out on the corner cylinders (1,3,4,6) and runs rich in the middle two (2,5). Anyway, a single fogger style system is hard to tune a large (over 100) shot because of that. especially with the split port which has 2 runners per cylinder which is twice the error possiblity. Furthermore, the shots are different with direct port. You run 60,90,120 shots, and a 120 direct port nitrous shot is safe on the stock engine (just as safe as the 100 fogger system shot... it's safe but at the absolut limit and not something you go around doing all the time) To get a dp n2o setup, you will need some custom fabrication because you will need something like an intake spacer.... however it has to be used to lift up the lower intake off the heads instead of the upper off the lower. the individual fogger units are sprayed into each combustion chamber in the head. I hope this helps, if not, ask more questions

I was hoping you'd answer this one. That's just the kind of post I was looking for.

I remember Dan posting an illustration a while back about a spacer which I think he wanted to try with the SSX intake. But I believe it sat between the lower and upper. He posted it under "the ultimate nitrous setup", or something.

Is making an intake spacer a common thing? Meaning.. Will I be able to get one made, easy? Or find people who have made similar things? Will there be any clearance issues?

I was hoping I could get an NXL kit and just put the nozzles under the fuel injectors but it seems NX only makes the kit for the 4.6s.

Monkey · 07-08-2004, 09:40 PM

it was dan who posted something, but it was Zach who did all the nitrous stuff. you will have clearance. I remember when he was talking to me about the direct port and how difficult it was. the upper manifold got in the way. those individual foggers are still pretty big and have to sit vertical. he had to have the sheetmatal intake made because of the direct port. And the last thing you listed was another reason it's not worth it... no kit for the v6.. hence custom making everything.

honestly, it is not worth the pain unless you're a complete nitrous junkie and have built the motor for nitrous because once you do direct port, you will want more than a 120 shot.

TheGmKiller331 · 07-08-2004, 11:19 PM

I suggest a wet system over the direct port.Theres a lot of things to consider and to do to set that type of system up.And considering the gains i dont think the work would be worth it when you can run a wet system and have the same thing with a lot easier installation which makes for less problems and easier trouble shooting if a problem is to occur.

tire · 07-09-2004, 04:30 AM


Quote: Originally Posted by Laser02 Here's a tip: Fuck you. You're going to critique my purchasing a direct-port kit that has nothing but advantages over a normal kit just because... I can afford it? Get a job you jealous bitch.

i'll send you a PM tomorrow. have a good night!

Laser02 · 07-09-2004, 09:26 AM


Quote: Originally Posted by tire i'll send you a PM tomorrow. have a good night!

I can't hardly wait.

Monkey · 07-10-2004, 11:13 AM


Quote: Originally Posted by TheGmKiller331 I suggest a wet system over the direct port.Theres a lot of things to consider and to do to set that type of system up.And considering the gains i dont think the work would be worth it when you can run a wet system and have the same thing with a lot easier installation which makes for less problems and easier trouble shooting if a problem is to occur.

direct port is wet. it mixes the fuel and nitrous in the proper amount in each cylinder instead of a large amount in the intake snorkle and relying on it to distribute correctly. direct port is safer than any fogger system, wet or dry

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