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08-28-2004, 06:52 PM
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Guess which dyno graph is the V6, Blue or Red
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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 V6 vs. 99+ 5 speed GT with a magnaflow exhaust, including:
X-Pipe and cats, a K&N FIPK, UDP, and Superchip.
The answer is right on there, but I bet most never thought a V6 could make
that kind of power!!! Here's proof! I consulted on the setup and RPM did the
porting, the cam is one of my old grinds and too small, but Justin
(our fearless V6 owner) is making a few changes and may use
a new cam of my specs and a few other changes to optimize
the setup as it currently is.
Those of you that guessed RED before seeing the answer win a COOKIE!
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
Last edited by RGR; 02-16-2005 at 03:39 PM.
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08-28-2004, 06:58 PM
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taking a break
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I'd say the red one... because 1, I can read, and second, saw it in another post 
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Mods: MGW Short Throw Shifter, Mach 1 Brakes
17"x9" Cobra's, Borla Exhaust, Cold Air Intake,
Polished Stainless Steel Inserts, more interior aluminum than I know what to do with
2001 Silver v-6, totalled, then sold
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08-28-2004, 07:02 PM
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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Sweet deal, huh??? I did not do alot for Justin, but troubleshoot,
and suggest changes that made a huge difference, but at least
it is now making killer HP and Torque and uses one of my old cams.
Congrats Justin, and Mik @ RPM!
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
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08-28-2004, 07:08 PM
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Cammed Baby!
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I already knew the correct answer. 
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08-28-2004, 10:31 PM
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a stock 350z makes 280 hp... it's sad that Ford won't push that kinda HP from its own v6... then again a 350z cost a lot more, but still...
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08-28-2004, 10:41 PM
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Christian & proud of it
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yeah show me a 04 350Z for 16k(12K w/ a plan) w/options like mine was plus they are completely different motors.
hey RGR what were all his mods?
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08-29-2004, 12:28 AM
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taking a break
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my car had 7,000 miles on it, and I got it for $12,000... and it has EVERY upgrade except leather, actually, had it special ordered so the only thing left off was power passenger seat and leather seats.... soooo  , then I stole it from her. (Bank took it away, sold it to the Ford dealer for near $15,000 I guess)... they had it marked at $15,500... but rethought when no one wanted to buy it until me... like a year and a half after they got it  
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2002 Sonic Blue GT, 5 Speed
Mods: MGW Short Throw Shifter, Mach 1 Brakes
17"x9" Cobra's, Borla Exhaust, Cold Air Intake,
Polished Stainless Steel Inserts, more interior aluminum than I know what to do with
2001 Silver v-6, totalled, then sold
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08-29-2004, 05:29 AM
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They even gave you one rim that didnt match the rest of the ones on the car too... thats tight!! 
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08-29-2004, 08:26 AM
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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The Important ones were:
4.2 (stock bore, so it was not a 4.3)
LT's and good duals (2.5" I believe)
small cam (I'd go bigger next time and Justin is looking into it, I will spec it)
BV heads (but I would use stock valves with stock 3.81" bore block)
wildly ported intakes and 70mm TB
plus a killer tune by Jerry of FordChip
Justin needs a bigger MAF and the cam will be changed later,
he may also try 1.8 RR's just to see if that helps any. It should,
but not nearly as much as a bigger cam. 1.8's only add about 4%
to the valve action and around .020" of lift is part of it. I will add
considerably more to the next cam, lift and duration both. But not
too much extra duration, as this combo is easily beating a competitive
4.3 that has nearly 20* more intake duration! Gotta match the intake
style when you cam it up, too much duration kills torque and when the
torque is right, it carries thru with killer HP. This is the SPI's best trait!
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
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08-29-2004, 01:29 PM
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WTF^^...
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how do you think my set up will compare robert?
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ME.com Member #29 - 400rwhp/380rwtq
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08-29-2004, 01:49 PM
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ive seen that too pretty sweet stuff!
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09-01-2004, 03:50 PM
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cam, valve, nitrous question
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RGR, do you suggest larger exhaust valves on a 3.8 splitport that will be run mostly N/A, with nitrous @ the track? The setup will be a stock bottom end, +cam, + ported heads. I guess the question is, Will the cam, and N2o alow larger valves to be usefull without loosing bottom end?
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09-01-2004, 05:31 PM
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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I'd email me if I were you, and we need to discuss if this cam is meant
for maximum all around HP or on the bottle HP. Most people need NA HP
and occasional juice usage, and for those peeps I would retain stock
valves... Instead of going thru all the variable here, let me ask you the
Q's and then I can make suggestions. Email me!
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
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09-01-2004, 05:31 PM
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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Still 3.8 right B?
List your mods here...
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
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09-03-2004, 08:44 AM
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Registered User
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Buckling down for the storm, will email next week!
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02-09-2005, 03:27 PM
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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another good one, V6 smokes V8 
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
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02-15-2005, 12:32 PM
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im blue
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Mods: BV heads, cut and weld upper, fully ported lower, 216/225 cam, 1.73 RR's, 60mm TB, 19# injectors, new timing set, 25% UDP, CAI, SCT chip, PCV delete, EGR delete, MAC LT headers, O/R H-pipe, durablack cat-back...
www.rpm-mustangs.com
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New dyno
193.8rwhp/238.9 rwtq
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02-15-2005, 01:13 PM
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The Mustang's Human Twin
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Some good reasons:
1. Lack of proper tune, SCT could mean anyone! Was it mail order?
2. Clogged Cats... lack of torque increase indicates this too.
3. Engine needs rebuilt...  that would be bad news.
My best guess is that it's #2, maybe combined with #1.
But any tuner can only tune for a healthy car, clogged
cats or toasty engine can't be tuned for at all.
If needed we could get you a reburn with my guy, after
the other issues are cleared up. If there are any, but I suspect cats.
For your mods the cam is kinda small, do you have higher CR?
It's also an SC grind, and my very first cam spec I did. SC later?
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Originally Posted by Flex:
You are the true cam master dude...
Last edited by RGR; 02-15-2005 at 01:18 PM.
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02-15-2005, 01:19 PM
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Taking life one day at a time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RGR
Some good reasons:
1. Lack of proper tune, SCT could mean anyone! Was it mail order?
2. Clogged Cats... lack of torque increase indicates this too.
3. Engine needs rebuilt...  that would be bad news.
My best guess is that it's #2.
For your mods the cam is kinda small, do you have higher CR?
It's also an SC grind, and my very first cam spec I did. SC later?
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Robert the thing is look at his Dyno numbers stoick with bolt ons. I have never seen a 94-98 Dyno that high with just bolt ons. I am betting he got a 40+ hp increase and the first stock dyno numbers were bad. But that is just my opinion
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