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On November 7th, I got into an accident with my 7 month, 4200k mile Mustang. I was approaching a slight right hand curve in the road doing 35-40mph, downshifted, locking up my tires. Short story short, this sent me doing a 360 across traffic(I thankfully avoided all the cars), hitting a curb parallel to the passenger side. When I hit the curb, my car hopped over it, and I landed in the grass. The curb was maybe 6 inches long. The rear right wheel was completely destroyed and the face of the wheel was ripped off. The front wheel held up much better, just having a chip.

Fast forward 22 days, the adjuster from my insurance company as well as the dealership wrote me up an initial estimate, preformed some initial diagnostics, and ordered parts. According to the estimate, the damage was to the Lower Air Radiator Deflector, two Wheels, two Valve Stems, Front Wheel Hub, Lower Control Arm in the right front suspension, real axle shafts(left and right), rear axle bearings(left and right), rear axle seals(left and right), two brake calipers(rear), and two disc brakes(rear).

After the dealership gets all that assembled back together and fix the apparent bent/damaged parts , we are still waiting on the parts to come, then they will proceed to check and measure the suspension, align the wheels, check for more damage, and hopefully check the uni-body.

The main concerns I'm reaching out to you guys for advice and input for are, do you think that a 35-40mph parallel hit on the curb could have damaged the Uni body/Uni-frame of my car? I was thinking that since the suspension took a hit parallel to the curb, that when it hit the curb, the impact also moved/damaged/bent the frame, since the suspension is connected to the frame?

Next, do you guys think that after my car is repaired, will it preform the same before the accident. With all this delay in the repair gives me to much time to think, and realizing that maybe my car wont be the same truely brakes my heart. The car is brand new! It's been my dream car forever, and I am a complete f**k up for ruining it. I've dreamed of this car, only for me to hurt it 4200k miles later.


Also, if the two rear axles were damaged, how are the axle housings not damaged? It's not listed on the estimate.

Here's some pictures so you guys can better judge the damage.

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Rear wheel destroyed:






 

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On November 7th, I got into an accident with my 7 month, 4200k mile Mustang. I was approaching a slight right hand curve in the road doing 35-40mph, downshifted, locking up my tires. Short story short, this sent me doing a 360 across traffic(I thankfully avoided all the cars), hitting a curb parallel to the passenger side. When I hit the curb, my car hopped over it, and I landed in the grass. The curb was maybe 6 inches long. The rear right wheel was completely destroyed and the face of the wheel was ripped off. The front wheel held up much better, just having a chip.

Fast forward 22 days, the adjuster from my insurance company as well as the dealership wrote me up an initial estimate, preformed some initial diagnostics, and ordered parts. According to the estimate, the damage was to the Lower Air Radiator Deflector, two Wheels, two Valve Stems, Front Wheel Hub, Lower Control Arm in the right front suspension, real axle shafts(left and right), rear axle bearings(left and right), rear axle seals(left and right), two brake calipers(rear), and two disc brakes(rear).

After the dealership gets all that assembled back together and fix the apparent bent/damaged parts , we are still waiting on the parts to come, then they will proceed to check and measure the suspension, align the wheels, check for more damage, and hopefully check the uni-body.

The main concerns I'm reaching out to you guys for advice and input for are, do you think that a 35-40mph parallel hit on the curb could have damaged the Uni body/Uni-frame of my car? I was thinking that since the suspension took a hit parallel to the curb, that when it hit the curb, the impact also moved/damaged/bent the frame, since the suspension is connected to the frame?

Next, do you guys think that after my car is repaired, will it preform the same before the accident. With all this delay in the repair gives me to much time to think, and realizing that maybe my car wont be the same truely brakes my heart. The car is brand new! It's been my dream car forever, and I am a complete f**k up for ruining it. I've dreamed of this car, only for me to hurt it 4200k miles later.

Also, if the two rear axles were damaged, how are the axle housings not damaged? It's not listed on the estimate.

Here's some pictures so you guys can better judge the damage.

Where I landed:

Rear wheel destroyed:
Man I just wanna cry for you :'(
 

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There's no way to tell if the underbody is damaged until they reassemble your car and get your car aligned. The sad thing is if the underbody is not perfectly strait and they are able to correct it via the wheel alignment, they won't tell you it's still off.

Your axel was probably bent at the hub. Just be sure to periodically check your rear axel seal to be sure that they are not leaking.

I wish you luck man. My car got beat up and the body shop really screwed me over. I'm still finding things that they tried to hide.
 

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That is horrible, can't imagine how you feel.


Don't visit just one shop, especially if you're not sure. Insurance companies legally cannot force you to use any certain shop. Also, most dealerships use Service King Collision where I live. Take your car in the front, ship it out the back over to them. They are a big shop all around this region but you may have a different one up there. Do some googling and chat up a service tech. May cost you a tow, but a second opinion is well worth it months from now when u have the piece of mind. I got rear-ended in a brand new f150 by a drunk driver (I still had paper tags). My dealer did the work to fix it and I had problems all the way up till I trad it in
 

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Things happen man so don't blame it all on yourself. The only way you are gonna know is to wait out the repair process. It may never drive the same again or you may not even be able to tell the difference. Live and learn brother.
 

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First of all, those are some sad pictures, and I am sorry :/

I don't know how well the mustangs would hold up, but just to give you an example. I had a 1996 Ford F-150. It was the smaller F-150 that they used to make. At the time, was in 2006, I was driving down a street with a speedlimit of 35, that everyone honestly drives 60 on, because it literally is a highway. I still live off this street. The turn to the street I live on the way I was driving is a right hand turn that is almost 160 degrees. You have to make the turn very wide, even today with my mustang, to make the turn and not be in the wrong lane of the street I live on. I got t-boned by an Excursion doing 65 MPH. The whole right side of the car was demolished. I had, at the time, a friend of the family who was a mechanic, look at it after words, as I was going to drive it for a few weeks the way it was because of the cop being stupid, the woman having stolen the car, me being blamed for the accident, and the city and lady going to court. Long story there. He looked at it, climbed under it, spent a few mins, and came back to me and ask me what the hell hit my car again, because for how bad the damage was, the frame wasn't bent, or if it was, it was minor. Now How well you can tell without proper tools, I don't know, but he was never one to lie to us.


so really long story short, I would think if my truck at the time can take a full sized excursion, which was bigger than my truck, at 65 mph, then your mustang should be able to take that hit at 40.

The thing is, you really won't know for sure until you drive the car. I at least had an unbiased opinion. You may just have them trying to cheap out on you. They may not also.

I do wish you goodluck and that your car is ok after all repairs!
 

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Man I just wanna cry for you :'(
You have no idea. These past 22 days have been hell and I am not handling it well at all. I've waited for this car, its been my dream forever. I have 6.5 more years of paying for this car, and to find out that it might be ruined and compromised forever, wants to make me throw up. lol

There's no way to tell if the underbody is damaged until they reassemble your car and get your car aligned. The sad thing is if the underbody is not perfectly strait and they are able to correct it via the wheel alignment, they won't tell you it's still off.

Your axel was probably bent at the hub. Just be sure to periodically check your rear axel seal to be sure that they are not leaking.

I wish you luck man. My car got beat up and the body shop really screwed me over. I'm still finding things that they tried to hide.
What body shop did you go to?

MAN!!!!! I'm also crying with you...
You have no idea man. I've been a wreck.

That is horrible, can't imagine how you feel.


Don't visit just one shop, especially if you're not sure. Insurance companies legally cannot force you to use any certain shop. Also, most dealerships use Service King Collision where I live. Take your car in the front, ship it out the back over to them. They are a big shop all around this region but you may have a different one up there. Do some googling and chat up a service tech. May cost you a tow, but a second opinion is well worth it months from now when u have the piece of mind. I got rear-ended in a brand new f150 by a drunk driver (I still had paper tags). My dealer did the work to fix it and I had problems all the way up till I trad it in
Thanks for the tip. So your saying that pretty much, I will have problems with the car for now own after the repair? This is horrible to hear.

Things happen man so don't blame it all on yourself. The only way you are gonna know is to wait out the repair process. It may never drive the same again or you may not even be able to tell the difference. Live and learn brother.
It's just a hard lesson if it doesn't drive the same ever again. I was planning on keeping this car till I grow old and weak so I could show my kids and pass it on. It's heart breaking to hear that a 4200k mile Mustang might be ruined 7 months into its life.

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First of all, those are some sad pictures, and I am sorry :/

I don't know how well the mustangs would hold up, but just to give you an example. I had a 1996 Ford F-150. It was the smaller F-150 that they used to make. At the time, was in 2006, I was driving down a street with a speedlimit of 35, that everyone honestly drives 60 on, because it literally is a highway. I still live off this street. The turn to the street I live on the way I was driving is a right hand turn that is almost 160 degrees. You have to make the turn very wide, even today with my mustang, to make the turn and not be in the wrong lane of the street I live on. I got t-boned by an Excursion doing 65 MPH. The whole right side of the car was demolished. I had, at the time, a friend of the family who was a mechanic, look at it after words, as I was going to drive it for a few weeks the way it was because of the cop being stupid, the woman having stolen the car, me being blamed for the accident, and the city and lady going to court. Long story there. He looked at it, climbed under it, spent a few mins, and came back to me and ask me what the hell hit my car again, because for how bad the damage was, the frame wasn't bent, or if it was, it was minor. Now How well you can tell without proper tools, I don't know, but he was never one to lie to us.


so really long story short, I would think if my truck at the time can take a full sized excursion, which was bigger than my truck, at 65 mph, then your mustang should be able to take that hit at 40.

The thing is, you really won't know for sure until you drive the car. I at least had an unbiased opinion. You may just have them trying to cheap out on you. They may not also.

I do wish you goodluck and that your car is ok after all repairs!
Wow man, it looks like your whole ordeal just really didn't agree with you. Did you ever get your car fixed? How did she run after the repair?

I don't think they are "cheaping" out on me, well at least I think. Actually, I think that since insurance is paying for the repairs, that they would actually be charging more than they have too.

Wish me luck...I'm honestly devastated to say the least. Nice Boss.
 

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You have no idea. These past 22 days have been hell and I am not handling it well at all. I've waited for this car, its been my dream forever. I have 6.5 more years of paying for this car, and to find out that it might be ruined and compromised forever, wants to make me throw up. lol

What body shop did you go to?

You have no idea man. I've been a wreck.

Thanks for the tip. So your saying that pretty much, I will have problems with the car for now own after the repair? This is horrible to hear.

It's just a hard lesson if it doesn't drive the same ever again. I was planning on keeping this car till I grow old and weak so I could show my kids and pass it on. It's heart breaking to hear that a 4200k mile Mustang might be ruined 7 months into its life.
No, sorry if you read it that way. I have had others (2 other accidents, not my fault!) and no bad experiences after. All I am saying is if you have reservations, don't just go off the first opinion. It sounds like you do, so just offering a tip I wish I had used when I felt the same
 

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You have no idea. These past 22 days have been hell and I am not handling it well at all. I've waited for this car, its been my dream forever. I have 6.5 more years of paying for this car, and to find out that it might be ruined and compromised forever, wants to make me throw up. lol

What body shop did you go to?

You have no idea man. I've been a wreck.

Thanks for the tip. So your saying that pretty much, I will have problems with the car for now own after the repair? This is horrible to hear.

It's just a hard lesson if it doesn't drive the same ever again. I was planning on keeping this car till I grow old and weak so I could show my kids and pass it on. It's heart breaking to hear that a 4200k mile Mustang might be ruined 7 months into its life.

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Wow man, it looks like your whole ordeal just really didn't agree with you. Did you ever get your car fixed? How did she run after the repair?

I don't think they are "cheaping" out on me, well at least I think. Actually, I think that since insurance is paying for the repairs, that they would actually be charging more than they have too.

Wish me luck...I'm honestly devastated to say the least. Nice Boss.
6.5 more years???? Wtf that's super long man!!
 

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No, sorry if you read it that way. I have had others (2 other accidents, not my fault!) and no bad experiences after. All I am saying is if you have reservations, don't just go off the first opinion. It sounds like you do, so just offering a tip I wish I had used when I felt the same
Oh, sorry for misreading it. I'm glad to hear you had two accidents where your car came back just fine. I'm hoping and praying that mine comes back just as good as new, otherwise my dream car was short lived.

Thanks for the tip again!

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6.5 more years???? Wtf that's super long man!!
I'm currently a student, so I really had to stretch the payments out to make them manageable.
 

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Oh, sorry for misreading it. I'm glad to hear you had two accidents where your car came back just fine. I'm hoping and praying that mine comes back just as good as new, otherwise my dream car was short lived.

Thanks for the tip again!

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I'm currently a student, so I really had to stretch the payments out to make them manageable.
Wow! Well hopefully ur baby is okay man
 

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Wow man, it looks like your whole ordeal just really didn't agree with you. Did you ever get your car fixed? How did she run after the repair?

I don't think they are "cheaping" out on me, well at least I think. Actually, I think that since insurance is paying for the repairs, that they would actually be charging more than they have too.

Wish me luck...I'm honestly devastated to say the least. Nice Boss.
Well I got lucky I suppose. I drove the truck with the side destroyed for 2 months, and it never drove any different. The truck was worth maybe 2500 at the time, per KBB if it had been 100% perfect. It nearly was too. My insurance company made so much money threatening to take the city I live in to court, that I got 6500 for the truck, and they marked it as totaled. Totaled it because the metal that went around the roof down the sides and under the doors was one piece that year, and "would cost too much to fix"

The lady is in jail still, because she stole the car, and lied about insurance. The cop believed her. He was a total rookie. He might not even be a cop anymore, not sure on that.

I didn't mean they would be cheaping out on you. Just as primer said, they do sometimes cut corners if they can. Depends. My insurance company never would. The 4 of us with them never get tickets, never get into accidents ever, and the few we have, were never our fault. So when something happens, they go above and beyond to take care of us.

In the end, as others have said, the only thing you can do is sit back, take a deep breathe, and wait for the repairs to finish. Drive her, and see how she feels. Take her on a road with some turns, give her a good acceleration, and braking test. If she still drives funny, take her to a few shops and get some quotes, and meet with your insurance agent and talk about the fact those pieces were not repaired, and that multiple shops stated the same issues.

BTW, if the nice boss was about my stang, I'm glad you think she is that awesome, but she is just a base model 5.0. I got her months before the Boss was coming out, and the price for the boss wasn't even listed yet, it was guessed to be about 47ish for the base, and I couldn't afford it. I do thank you though!
 

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Listen brother cars can be replaced but people cant... Just as long as ur safe and nobody got hurt is all that matters.... Your baby is gonna get fixed just keep ontop of it and ask lots of questions if u see something being neglected in the repair
 

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I slid my first car Over a large curb when I was a kid. It was no mustang but a cobalt at the time. I was going to fast and lost it around a corner trying to keep from rear ending a slow car that changed lanes in front of me. All 4 over the curb at about 50 mph. Twisted all 4 wheels, bent the rear axle, tore off the muffler and...According to insurance, that was all the damage, BS. There was a visible leak in the breaks, there was severe damage to a small piece of sheet metal that protected the trans, and I could now feel an extreme amount if play in my shifter. After a month insurance agreed to fix major damage now while smaller things were still debated. As soon as I got the car back I took it to the shop my family has used for years. About 20 min later, my mechanic and good friend came over and told me that the car should have been declared as a complete loss as there was severe structural damage. Insurance said that they would fix the car to a drive able state or they would pay me for the complete loss but would subtract the cost of work already done. a very agitated father and months later I got a settlement check for the amount of my car before repairs... Moral of the story, get two opinions friend... Good luck
 

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How Ya doing Gearhead5point0, Man, I have been literally frozen in my chair while reading your (heart breaking experience). I am heart broken for you and I would first like to say that I hope all goes great and your car comes out like brand new again.
I know the feeling, I being an OCD perfectionist and perpetual worrier and wanting to keep all my things like brand new. I am not a young student, but I have saved and dreamed for 3 years straight to purchase my dream car, well sort of. I wanted a Shelby, but went with the Black '13 GT (premium) 6MT and could not be happier with my black beauty.
My long story longer, is that I ran over a section of a truck tire on the highway that the car in front of me also ran over and flipped it up into the air in front of me and thought I got lucky just to run over it and not go through my windshield or even hit it, until I got home and went to see if there was any damage to my tires.
My drivers side front bumper was bashed in with a broken marker light and some damage to one tire rim and lower air deflector.

As small and lucky (It could have been much worse with an accident or more damage) of the damage that was, I was so devastated from what I saw, that I could barely breath and was depressed for weeks over it that my car would never ever be like new again. With all my bad experience for 4 decades with autobody shops I also was heartbroken about my brand new dream car.

Well, I researched autobody shops for days on the net and read all the reviews etc, and feel I got lucky with a shop who performed an absolutely wonderful job on my car. As simple that it might have been, the fact is that I don't ever even think about it anymore, because the car looks like brand new to me and of course, there was no frame or internal damage. Since they had to paint and blend the entire bumper, I even had them fill in and blend those two factory license plate bracket holes (dimples) and now the front of the Stang bumper is finally clean.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded, but hopefully not selfish story since you are going through misery right now (believe me, I know the pain) I just thought I could reflect my story to you, that sometimes things do work out for the best and you will be happy and proud again with you Roush Mustang. PLEASE keep us all posted as to what's going on with you Roush.

Good Luck and best wishes from a fellow Stang fan,
 

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Realizing that maybe my car wont be the same truely brakes my heart. The car is brand new! It's been my dream car forever, and I am a complete f**k up for ruining it. I've dreamed of this car, only for me to hurt it 4200k miles later.

Quit WHINING about your car. It is nothing but a car. YOU WALKED AWAY WITH OUT ANY INJURIES, THAT'S GOOD! EITHER FIX IT OR SELL IT AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!
 

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Realizing that maybe my car wont be the same truely brakes my heart. The car is brand new! It's been my dream car forever, and I am a complete f**k up for ruining it. I've dreamed of this car, only for me to hurt it 4200k miles later.

Quit WHINING about your car. It is nothing but a car. YOU WALKED AWAY WITH OUT ANY INJURIES, THAT'S GOOD! EITHER FIX IT OR SELL IT AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!
Culo lol
 

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Realizing that maybe my car wont be the same truely brakes my heart. The car is brand new! It's been my dream car forever, and I am a complete f**k up for ruining it. I've dreamed of this car, only for me to hurt it 4200k miles later.

Quit WHINING about your car. It is nothing but a car. YOU WALKED AWAY WITH OUT ANY INJURIES, THAT'S GOOD! EITHER FIX IT OR SELL IT AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!
Mustang V6 (premium) pictures - OOOOH, Wow, More to Come... Not interested!
 

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Also, the dealership told me that after they replace all the apparent bent parts, that they will get the car up on the alignment rack, and this should indicate weather the cars good to go, or weather there is further damage they have to check for.

I'm just a little confused on how the alignment rack would suggest if the cars good to go, or if it needs to be checked out further? Can someone please explain how this works? I'm presuming that the alignment rack they're talking about is for the wheels.
 
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