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With new safety regs, and IRS, it's not impossible. I'd say if it gained, probably 150-200

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So the 2015 Mustang gained 200 pounds yet has 20 hp more and 10fptq but because of the added weight it will be a slower car hmmm.... and come in at 3700 pounds.
and have 440 or so Hp. We will see some say it has more aluminum in it so it is
a bit lighter I'm not so sure and of course IRS ads weight but it is a all new platform
so.... I think we will find out soon enough as they will hit the showroom floors
very soon early fall.
 

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http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/1405_2015_ford_mustang_rebooting_the_legend/


One point that's drawn considerable interest and some skepticism: While the final specifications have not yet been released, Ford sources confidently say the new car will be at least 200 pounds lighter than the current Mustang. How that could be accomplished has a few observers scratching their heads. How can a vehicle cover the same footprint, include additional safety and convenience features, not to mention bigger wheels, tires, and brakes, and still come in 200 pounds under the previous model? (For reference, the 2014 curb weight is 3,618 pounds.) This is a feat that bears watching, and we'll stay tuned. The '15 Mustang arrives in showrooms in the fourth quarter of 2014!

I really doesn't make sense more like + 200 pounds.
 

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Interesting... I thought Ford swore that the new car would weigh less even with the IRS because it's smaller and they are using lighter materials for the car.

From everything I have read or heard up until now, Ford was 100% dedicated to making the Mustang a world class car. Adding weight to an already fat car is, I would think, the last thing they would want to do.

If the new car does actually gain that much weight, I think the 6th gen Camaro will absolutely walk all over it. It will be built on the Alpha platform. The new 2015 Cadillac ATS coupe is built on this platform and it's a 2 door car that weighs 3418 lbs in base trim. Although the heftier power train and suspension components might make it end up being 3400 - 3500 lbs car. That along with their experience on building high performance suspension setups on this platform, and Gen 5 LT power ...

If Ford screws this up, GM will be going for the jugular and this time, they might actually hit it.
 

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Man I hope it isn't true. But it does say it right there in the article in black and white. I really think this could hurt their sales. There are alot of people who are skeptical of the new design and with an added 200-300 lbs on top of that I could see some people getting turned off from it. Heck, I don't want an almost 4000 lb mustang with minimally added horsepower.
 

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Careful Ford... you nailed it with the 2011 and are releasing an uglier car with an unproven rear suspension setup and the same motor.

Agreed with ISH, if the 2015 performance is the same or only marginally better than the 2011 the Camaro is going to have a field day with it.

I'm more worried about a crappy 2015-up car driving the values of the 2011-2014 cars higher than they are now. I mean look at the 03/04 Cobra. Nice ones are in the low-mid $20s and climbing. Might be the same case for the current generation of Coyotes... and here I was hoping to get into one in the next few years for $17-$20k...

crap...
 

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It better be lighter...otherwise whats the point? Lightness is an awesome thing, and 3600lbs is already over the limit. If they can get it down to 3300-3400lbs, its going to be a monster! Corvettes weight around 3200-3300lbs, just some food for thought.

But then there is reality. Pick two, lightweight, cheap, or fast. If they go with thinner/stronger steals its going to add cost. Suspension won't loose that much weight, as you still have to handle 400+ hp.
I came from a car that was designed to be as light as possible, a Scion FR-S. Everytime you drove it the compromises that were made to keep it lightweight were readily apparent. While I think there are plenty of drivers/owners out there willing to live with a no frills lightweight coupe, your average mustang buyer still wants a somewhat refined vehicle. I think best case scenario we see a GT base starting at ~3500lbs, with premiums going upwards of 3600lbs.

If the car is actually 3700lbs+ I'm going to be really disappointed.
 

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It did go on a diet... of nothing but fat...

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It's been confirmed today. The new mustang is heavier. Wtf ford? Way to just lie to everybody. they really went in the wrong direction with this new mustang.

The base gt will be 170 lbs heavier and the premium, 250 lbs. Can you say FAIL?!!! I'm so dissapointed.

The 2015 Mustang gets fatter, but not as much as you think - Road & Track
What the **** Ford?! Welp at least the 2011-2014s are still young and will be for some time. I just don't think the prices on them are going to drop when the 2015 is released like everyone kept saying would happen.
 

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It's official, I'm so freakin glad I went with an 11-14 instead of dissapointment after dissapointment with the 15, from the body, to probably not much gains, to HEAVIER.

If I was looking for a car now instead of a year ago, I'd look at a used 11-14 GT, a 14 Camaro SS 1LE, or the Corvette C7 Stingray. Heck, I'd probably wait a year or 2 and look at the 16 Camaro.

GM is going to destroy Ford with the new Camaro now. Ford gained weight, and GM is about to have the Camaro get weight reduction surgery with the new platform, and the LT1 engine.

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Thats sad, really sad. Makes me happy with my 2012. What do you get when you take a GT mustang, give it independent suspension and an extra couple hundred pounds? A Camaro SS....

Good luck Ford. The new Cobra better have over 700hp lol.
 

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Just saw another article, that was pure SPECULATION by steeda, no one knows what it weighs.

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---------- Post added at 03:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:31 PM ----------

Rumor Is the new gt 350 will be kept naturally aspirated to try and reduce anymore weight gain.
Last I heard about that it was a 5.2L twin turbo. In the videos, you can hear the turbo.

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Just saw another article, that was pure SPECULATION by steeda, no one knows what it weighs.

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Last I heard about that it was a 5.2L twin turbo. In the videos, you can hear the turbo.

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It's all technically speculation at this point. Until ford finally decides to release official numbers we won't know for sure. But I think we can confidently conclude with all evidence taken into consideration the new gt will be heavier.
 

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Probably, if they are lucky, maybe, maybe 50 pounds lighter.

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"The 2015 Mustang was also engineered to meet harsher roof-crush standards, so that reinforced structure also adds pounds to the scales." I'm not an engineer, err, well not a mechanical engineer but I know that adding pounds to the roof, creates a higher center of gravity, a high CG makes for a horrible car.


This isn't going to end well for Ford. The added weight will further emphasize the coyotes already anemic low end grunt, of which the LS and LT engines have more than enough of.

For comparison, the coyote in GT form doesn't make 300 ft lbs until 3200 rpm, the LS3 in Camaro form makes 300 ft lbs at 2100 rpm while the new LT1 Corvette puts out 300 ft lbs at just 1600 rpm. All 100% stock on K&N's dyno.

So more weight, not much power at low revs and an unknown suspension package, which based on their previous attempts has been a failure.

This car will likely need at least 20 rwhp and 20 rwtq to equal the current car's performance, assuming the transmission ratio's and rear axle ratios are the same and weight distribution is similar.

Combine all of that into a car that is getting mostly negative opinions on looks, with likely the same or worse performance as the previous generation and the competition adding power while significantly reducing weight, it all adds up to a huge miss for Ford, who once again, seems to have taken themselves out.
 

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"The 2015 Mustang was also engineered to meet harsher roof-crush standards, so that reinforced structure also adds pounds to the scales." I'm not an engineer, err, well not a mechanical engineer but I know that adding pounds to the roof, creates a higher center of gravity, a high CG makes for a horrible car.


This isn't going to end well for Ford. The added weight will further emphasize the coyotes already anemic low end grunt, of which the LS and LT engines have more than enough of.

For comparison, the coyote in GT form doesn't make 300 ft lbs until 3200 rpm, the LS3 in Camaro form makes 300 ft lbs at 2100 rpm while the new LT1 Corvette puts out 300 ft lbs at just 1600 rpm. All 100% stock on K&N's dyno.

So more weight, not much power at low revs and an unknown suspension package, which based on their previous attempts has been a failure.

This car will likely need at least 20 rwhp and 20 rwtq to equal the current car's performance, assuming the transmission ratio's and rear axle ratios are the same and weight distribution is similar.

Combine all of that into a car that is getting mostly negative opinions on looks, with likely the same or worse performance as the previous generation and the competition adding power while significantly reducing weight, it all adds up to a huge miss for Ford, who once again, seems to have taken themselves out.
It sure seems that way like you said the problem with the 5.0 is it doesn't make
much power down low...
 

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It sure seems that way like you said the problem with the 5.0 is it doesn't make
much power down low...
FRPP tune anyone... adds 60 lb - ft of torque at 1500 RPM'S

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