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That sounds good.
Until I look outside & see 3 feet of snow on the road lol

Do they have AWD for Stangs?


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Spoiler alert, it'll be a RWD gasoline car. They need to just go all electric already or the 3.5L turbo6 but 2020 will just be a rwd gas. Or a slightly bumped up Coyote with yet better gas mileage. The thing already makes 500whp with a tune and some headers...
 

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At this point just fix the gen 3 Coyotes for 2020.
Way too many ticking and getting replaced.

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Spoiler alert, it'll be a RWD gasoline car. They need to just go all electric already or the 3.5L turbo6 but 2020 will just be a rwd gas. Or a slightly bumped up Coyote with yet better gas mileage. The thing already makes 500whp with a tune and some headers...
Front wheel drive would make more sense.... It would eliminate the transmission tunnel running through the center of the interior, and get rid of the gear selector poking up out of the console.
From an engineering perspective, it would be more efficient to attach a couple of electric motors to the rear wheels, rather than having them crammed under the hood with the IC engine.
 

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Or just rear/mid engine it. :)
 

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What about that new 7.2L gasoline engine they are supposed to be coming out with...? I think I got the liter size right on it. Also, it looked like it was a pushrod motor, or at least not a modular engine anyways.
 

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What about that new 7.2L gasoline engine they are supposed to be coming out with...? I think I got the liter size right on it. Also, it looked like it was a pushrod motor, or at least not a modular engine anyways.
Likely a great truck engine, but I would not want to drive a Mustang on a curvy road with THAT hanging over the front axle.....I still say, that if Ford is going to have a better Mustang than the current GT, they have a proven engine in the lineup all ready to go in.....the twin turbo 3.5 liter V6 out of the Raptor. THAT would be a monster engine in the top-of-the-line Mustang...........that TT V6 would give the GT 350 an embarrassing beating and would likely give the GT 500 a run for it’s money with the right tires.
 

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It's 7.3 litres, and it is likely the engine that will be installed in the 2020 Raptor, replacing the 3.5 EcoBoost.

Interesting that Ford is going back to a pushrod design...
 

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Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if that TT 3.5 will ever make it into the Mustang. I'm kinda thinking it will be something new when it comes to that point.

Stray, I'm wondering if they are going back to pushrod to just avoid head ticking and other heat related problems..? I guess we'll see if that trickles down to smaller sized uses.
 

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They're less expensive to manufacture, the engine is more compact than overhead cam, and it is a durable, time tested design that has been doing work for 70+ years.
Ford owns the medium duty truck market. Surprisingly, more than half of the engines that power the F250 through F750 class of trucks are gasoline engines. The V10 engine is becoming a little "long in the tooth", so I suppose that Ford has decided to introduce a big, relatively simple, pushrod V8 to become the workhorse to power the truck and recreational vehicle market. A modern version of the 385-series (460) which worked so well for two decades.
 

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Honestly what baffles me is why the 6.2L doesn't get more love. There are some performance builds with that thing that are insane and its not that involved at all.
 

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It's 7.3 litres, and it is likely the engine that will be installed in the 2020 Raptor, replacing the 3.5 EcoBoost.

Interesting that Ford is going back to a pushrod design...
I don’t know why they would consider replacing that 500 HP 3.5 Ecoboost in the Raptor, unless they think that the redneck knee jerk reaction of “but it’s not a V8?” has hurt sales?
It’s been proven over and over again head-to-head that the V6 kicks the @$$ of the old 6.2 V8 Raptor...”but it doesn’t SOUND like a V8!! If I am going out in the desert with my $80,000 dollar truck and jump berms, I want it to SOUND gooder”.......:facepalm:
Hands down, the TT 3.5 is the best engine in Ford’s lineup if not the world....sorry Coyote fanboys, until you’ve driven one — you have no idea how good this engine is.......but I DO love the sound of our GT.....:cool:
 

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Honestly what baffles me is why the 6.2L doesn't get more love. There are some performance builds with that thing that are insane and its not that involved at all.
Its because it's a hunk of crap. I replace on average 2 of them a month. They brake springs/drop valves pretty regularly. I have a few of them on my IG that I have done.

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I don’t know why they would consider replacing that 500 HP 3.5 Ecoboost in the Raptor, unless they think that the redneck knee jerk reaction of “but it’s not a V8?” has hurt sales?
It’s been proven over and over again head-to-head that the V6 kicks the @$$ of the old 6.2 V8 Raptor...”but it doesn’t SOUND like a V8!! If I am going out in the desert with my $80,000 dollar truck and jump berms, I want it to SOUND gooder”.......:facepalm:
Hands down, the TT 3.5 is the best engine in Ford’s lineup if not the world....sorry Coyote fanboys, until you’ve driven one — you have no idea how good this engine is.......but I DO love the sound of our GT.....:cool:
It may be that you can get basically the same engine in a standard F150... Ford likely feels that the Raptor needs an engine that is only available in a F150 if it is purchased as a Raptor.
This is still all speculation, of course.

In any case, there is no substitute for cubic inches. A big naturally aspirated engine will make comparable power and do the same job as the little EcoBoost. The only differences are, it's going to use a little more fuel, but will be less expensive to maintain over time, due to having less parts, and, hopefully, a more robust architecture.
It's been about a decade since we've seen a true "big-block" V8 engine manufactured by any of the automakers. I'm anxious to see what Ford has come up with.
 

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Honestly what baffles me is why the 6.2L doesn't get more love. There are some performance builds with that thing that are insane and its not that involved at all.
It could be that most of the engines are in commercial trucks and such. Not likely candidates for getting modified.
They use the 6.2 in a lot of marine applications. Like wakeboard/surf boats that need good low end torque. But again, most are unmodified because people who go to the lake usually want to wakeboard and surf... Not sit at the launch ramp and #@*# around with the damned boat engine all day! :lol:
 

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I don’t know why they would consider replacing that 500 HP 3.5 Ecoboost in the Raptor, unless they think that the redneck knee jerk reaction of “but it’s not a V8?” has hurt sales?
It’s been proven over and over again head-to-head that the V6 kicks the @$$ of the old 6.2 V8 Raptor...”but it doesn’t SOUND like a V8!! If I am going out in the desert with my $80,000 dollar truck and jump berms, I want it to SOUND gooder”.......:facepalm:
Hands down, the TT 3.5 is the best engine in Ford’s lineup if not the world....sorry Coyote fanboys, until you’ve driven one — you have no idea how good this engine is.......but I DO love the sound of our GT.....:cool:
Lol, that's pretty much me in a nutshell. Sorry to say it, but I hate the 4 and 6 turbo crap out there. I know they're more efficeint, more powerful, probably more mod-able...but I just don't like it. I completely do-not-care that they are better, LOL. I hate the sound and would NEVER pay the money they are wanting for these vehicles with them these days unless I was completely happy with what I was buying. For example, I liked the last Lincoln MKX (or Z whatever). I thought Ooo, a new luxury car with a V8, but no... it's a turbo 6. Sure 400hp is nice, but it's just not what I want lol. I think the new engine technology is great and all, but it's just not what I want. I'll be honest, I'd rather go with all electric if I'm wanting to go with new technology. I'm sure there is more that feel like I do about this, but not enough to change the market.
 
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