I'm wanting to find a used engine, tear it down to the block, and then rebuild it for performance.The extent all depends on the state lf the block you get. May only need gaskets may need to get new sleeves put in
Not too bad of a price estimate. How soon do you plan on doing the rebuildYeah i plan on that too. I want to save up around 2500 before i buy anything. I say about 1500 for top end and 1000 for bottom
Haha. Have her fund your rebuild and tell her it's for a great cause. I'm hoping to find an engine by April and start the build during the summer. We'll see how that goes. Cost of living here in Alaska makes projects like this a luxuryWell as i am jobless and have a girlfriend.... Not anytime soon haha probably in a yearish
The best tricks I can tell you is this.I'm wanting to find a used engine, tear it down to the block, and then rebuild it for performance.
0.0 all i got out of this was Alaska........ How do you like it up there? Have you ever been to the. 48 states? What part of Alaska are you from?Haha. Have her fund your rebuild and tell her it's for a great cause. I'm hoping to find an engine by April and start the build during the summer. We'll see how that goes. Cost of living here in Alaska makes projects like this a luxury
+1The best tricks I can tell you is this.
Take Pictures as you go with a phone or camera and have them handy to look at when you reinstall also you can send in some pictures so we can see it also
1 Have a place to spread out the parts Take Pictures
2 You will need a valve spring compressor
3 You will need a ring compressor
4 You will need a torque wrench
5 You will need an engine hoist
6 You will need an engine stand
7 Replace motor mounts and tranny mounts
8 When taken off the hood have a sharpy and mark the hinge so you can line it up when replacing it
9 Pull the tranny at the same time it is easier
10 Replace the front seal in the tranny and the rear seal in the tranny
11 As you go Take Pictures
12 You will need a Harmonic Balancer puller
Pull the tranny and place aside to work on later make sure there is a drip pan under the front and rear shaft
Place the engine on the engine stand use tranny bolts to hold it most of the time
Start by Taken Pictures so you know where things go
When you pull the heads / intake lay them on a flat surface on cardboard not on the concrete
Replace the carb gasket and oil sending unit thermostat
With heads off flip the engine over and open oil pan take the oil pump and sump out if you are smart you will replace these before you put the engine together.
Pull the Harmonic Balancer
As you pull the pistons and main bearings make sure you Keep Them In the Order you removed them!!! Place in a safe place that you know you will not need to move them. I use an old milk crate
Now the fun starts pull all the freeze plugs and toss them away
Pull the timing cover and then the chain (please replace these) and then the cam
Use valve spring compressor and pull the valves place in the order they came out.
Send the block and heads in for any machining and have them install the cam bearings
I always have mine Hot Dipped and blued to see if there is any hair line cracks in them
Pull the torque converter and drain it pull the tranny pan and drain it replace filter. replace rear seal and front seal replace the gasket on the pan and reinstall
Clean up the firewall any wiring paint anything you want painted and make sure you get the rust off wire wheel on a drill works great. When you get the engine back take some pictures. If you want to port it and polish it which is pretty easy with a die grinder and a lot of time let us know.
Paint the block the heads and reinstall the parts.
Take pictures as you go
I am sure I missed something it has been awhile since I reworked an engine so this is just off the top of my head
Good Luck and have fun
Since it's your first rebuild I +1M this. MAKE SURE YOU LABEL EVERYTHING. Pictures will be your best friend along with blue masking tape and plastic baggies. If you pull out a bolt, put in a bag and label exactly where you pulled it from.The best tricks I can tell you is this.
Take Pictures as you go with a phone or camera and have them handy to look at when you reinstall also you can send in some pictures so we can see it also
1 Have a place to spread out the parts Take Pictures
2 You will need a valve spring compressor
3 You will need a ring compressor
4 You will need a torque wrench
5 You will need an engine hoist
6 You will need an engine stand
7 Replace motor mounts and tranny mounts
8 When taken off the hood have a sharpy and mark the hinge so you can line it up when replacing it
9 Pull the tranny at the same time it is easier
10 Replace the front seal in the tranny and the rear seal in the tranny
11 As you go Take Pictures
12 You will need a Harmonic Balancer puller
Pull the tranny and place aside to work on later make sure there is a drip pan under the front and rear shaft
Place the engine on the engine stand use tranny bolts to hold it most of the time
Start by Taken Pictures so you know where things go
When you pull the heads / intake lay them on a flat surface on cardboard not on the concrete
Replace the carb gasket and oil sending unit thermostat
With heads off flip the engine over and open oil pan take the oil pump and sump out if you are smart you will replace these before you put the engine together.
Pull the Harmonic Balancer
As you pull the pistons and main bearings make sure you Keep Them In the Order you removed them!!! Place in a safe place that you know you will not need to move them. I use an old milk crate
Now the fun starts pull all the freeze plugs and toss them away
Pull the timing cover and then the chain (please replace these) and then the cam
Use valve spring compressor and pull the valves place in the order they came out.
Send the block and heads in for any machining and have them install the cam bearings
I always have mine Hot Dipped and blued to see if there is any hair line cracks in them
Pull the torque converter and drain it pull the tranny pan and drain it replace filter. replace rear seal and front seal replace the gasket on the pan and reinstall
Clean up the firewall any wiring paint anything you want painted and make sure you get the rust off wire wheel on a drill works great. When you get the engine back take some pictures. If you want to port it and polish it which is pretty easy with a die grinder and a lot of time let us know.
Paint the block the heads and reinstall the parts.
Take pictures as you go
I am sure I missed something it has been awhile since I reworked an engine so this is just off the top of my head
Good Luck and have fun
The best tricks I can tell you is this.
Take Pictures as you go with a phone or camera and have them handy to look at when you reinstall also you can send in some pictures so we can see it also
1 Have a place to spread out the parts Take Pictures
2 You will need a valve spring compressor
3 You will need a ring compressor
4 You will need a torque wrench
5 You will need an engine hoist
6 You will need an engine stand
7 Replace motor mounts and tranny mounts
8 When taken off the hood have a sharpy and mark the hinge so you can line it up when replacing it
9 Pull the tranny at the same time it is easier
10 Replace the front seal in the tranny and the rear seal in the tranny
11 As you go Take Pictures
12 You will need a Harmonic Balancer puller
Pull the tranny and place aside to work on later make sure there is a drip pan under the front and rear shaft
Place the engine on the engine stand use tranny bolts to hold it most of the time
Start by Taken Pictures so you know where things go
When you pull the heads / intake lay them on a flat surface on cardboard not on the concrete
Replace the carb gasket and oil sending unit thermostat
With heads off flip the engine over and open oil pan take the oil pump and sump out if you are smart you will replace these before you put the engine together.
Pull the Harmonic Balancer
As you pull the pistons and main bearings make sure you Keep Them In the Order you removed them!!! Place in a safe place that you know you will not need to move them. I use an old milk crate
Now the fun starts pull all the freeze plugs and toss them away
Pull the timing cover and then the chain (please replace these) and then the cam
Use valve spring compressor and pull the valves place in the order they came out.
Send the block and heads in for any machining and have them install the cam bearings
I always have mine Hot Dipped and blued to see if there is any hair line cracks in them
Pull the torque converter and drain it pull the tranny pan and drain it replace filter. replace rear seal and front seal replace the gasket on the pan and reinstall
Clean up the firewall any wiring paint anything you want painted and make sure you get the rust off wire wheel on a drill works great. When you get the engine back take some pictures. If you want to port it and polish it which is pretty easy with a die grinder and a lot of time let us know.
Paint the block the heads and reinstall the parts.
Take pictures as you go
I am sure I missed something it has been awhile since I reworked an engine so this is just off the top of my head
Good Luck and have fun
+1
Also get lots of ziploc bags and separate screws, nuts, washers for each category as you take them off - mark the bag valve cover bolts, for example. This saved my ass when I did mine. You can rent an engine crane, you only need it twice, but buy the engine stand.
You may consider having the machine shop install the crank after its turned, balanced. It's good insurance to have them install the bearings. They will install the pistons as well if you're not comfortable with it. That way the bottom end is completed. There are some good books for rebuilding a 302, it's invaluable as well as the Ford shop manual.
lots of good advice in these posts. here is some more;Since it's your first rebuild I +1M this. MAKE SURE YOU LABEL EVERYTHING. Pictures will be your best friend along with blue masking tape and plastic baggies. If you pull out a bolt, put in a bag and label exactly where you pulled it from.
Ex: When I pulled my buick motor apart I label EVERYTHING, Blue masking tape on even the valve covers which side they go too. This will help you a tremendous amount I can gaurentee it.
What engine do you already have on the car? If it is a 302 or 289 why not just redo it. If it a straight 6 then you will have to do more work to the car and I think tranny bell housing.Thanks everyone for the very detailed and descriptive explanations. This will help a lot along with the book I picked up on rebuilding ford small blocks. Next question is obtaining the block. Should I buy a used engine from a junkyard or somewhere of that sort or buy the block new off the Internet? And if I buy it used, (this being my first time) what do I need to look for when inspecting it? Some questions I have are 1) how do I know if the block is cracked or damage 2) do I need to keep all the parts that come with the engine 3) 302 or 351
Ill post more questions as they come to mind
I have a 302 on my current car but I'm wanting the second engine to rebuild so I can drop it into an engineless fastback that's sitting in the pops garage back in Texas with hopes of making the car mine somedayWhat engine do you already have on the car? If it is a 302 or 289 why not just redo it. If it a straight 6 then you will have to do more work to the car and I think tranny bell housing.
When I used to get engines from junk yards a lot I would pull the dip stick as stated and make sure the oil is not milky (means water in the oil) if it was sitting outside it might just be rain water if it is inside then this might a bad head gasket or cracked block or head. So with all this said I would not worry about getting a junk yard engine from a good yard. You will need to know are you getting a new intake and carb? If so don't worry so much about them on the JY engine if not check all the linkage on the carb to see if it is there.
Alaska isn't too bad. I recently moved here from Texas and I like it better here then I did there. I'm up here in anchorage at the moment.0.0 all i got out of this was Alaska........ How do you like it up there? Have you ever been to the. 48 states? What part of Alaska are you from?
The 302 was in a lot of the f150s. Youcould go to a junk yard or something to just get a block if your not against a used one for cheap.
If I pull one out of a junkyard, how can I tell if its been bored over beforeThe machine shop may have a used block that's already been checked for cracks and cylinders with excessive wear or out of round. Be careful that your used one isn't already bored out or so far out of tolerance that it can't be bored.
1996 was last year for a 302 in a f150Do you know what year they stopped putting the 302s in the trucks? Junk yards here suck and have everything on a computer based system so if you don't have a year make and model, they can't look it up for you
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If I pull one out of a junkyard, how can I tell if its been bored over before