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Here I am.
Debating if I should sell or mod my car.

It's torch red 2007 mustang GT.

I have my eyes on the 5.0 or c63 AMG.

I'm pretty sure I can put down 10K after sale.

New
Pros- faster car & newer and that sweet 100K warranty
Cons- gotta pay for it another 1-3 years monthly.

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Pros- paid off. Everything new on motor. Pulls like new.
Cons- going cost me maybe up to $20K to mod it the way I want it. (Why so high?) high miles on motor. I'd rather put newer 5.0 in. Then mod it.
 

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Get the new 5.0 because if you plan on spending money on modding, it will take a lot just to get it to equal the hp the 5.0 s have plus the 5.0 look cooler!
 

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Well considering a full bolt on and supercharger 4.6 around the same horsepower as a stock 5.0. Also I have been told you have to build the motor over 400whp and I have 400whp with basic bolt in I say go for the 5.0
 

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That's a hard one I like the 5.0 an the Mercedes
 

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Here I am.
Debating if I should sell or mod my car.

It's torch red 2007 mustang GT.

I have my eyes on the 5.0 or c63 AMG.

I'm pretty sure I can put down 10K after sale.

New
Pros- faster car & newer and that sweet 100K warranty
Cons- gotta pay for it another 1-3 years monthly.

Current
Pros- paid off. Everything new on motor. Pulls like new.
Cons- going cost me maybe up to $20K to mod it the way I want it. (Why so high?) high miles on motor. I'd rather put newer 5.0 in. Then mod it.
Go for the 5.0. All of the new technology and aftermarket parts are going to start gearing towards the 5.0. The 4.6 3V aftermarket won't go away, but it's an old engine platform now for mustangs. Unless you have a real preference for the 2007 body style, the 5.0 starts off over 100hp to the better and can only go up with mods. You should be able to get close to 500hp with bolt ons.
 

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Well considering a full bolt on and supercharger 4.6 around the same horsepower as a stock 5.0. Also I have been told you have to build the motor over 400whp and I have 400whp with basic bolt in I say go for the 5.0
Your usually good for 450 to the wheels on the stock block. Anything over that isn't very safe. And what mods do you have that put you at 400 to the wheels?
 

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Intake, tune, o/r xpipe, pypes super system and 3.73's. ill admit I've never dynod it but people with the same mods get right at or close to 400whp
 

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Yeah.
Hard choice between c63 & 5.0 haha.

I do like the 2013 5.0 beileve me I have drove 6 of them. Test drive.
Just sexy car, motor.
I made one small curve, you just could feel the motor growling and Spin the tires hard. Went 0-90 faster than I expected

Was thinking of putting 5.0 in 2007 because I like the sleeper idea.
But I'm debating if its worth the money, y'all know?
$10k in motor swap. The other about $5k would be in bolts on. Then the rest would be put in for turbos.
But not sure because I haven't found a thread or a forum of someone else that already did that idea, because I would like to know the real cost of swapping coyote 5.0 in 05-09 model
Also I feel 4.6l would be limited to modding. Because it'd probably end up costing over $10k too to prep it for 500+HP. Wheresabout 5.0 already has 450Hp. Simple bolts on would get 550hp. And it'd handle it no problem. Then lil bit more mods would get it closer to 600hp.
4.6l is way behind. Stock is I think 300hp.. A lot of bolts on, etc to just get closer to 600hp


I would defi keep and buy 5.0.
But can't. My insurance would go over $800 a month. (Yeah bad.)
 

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Intake, tune, o/r xpipe, pypes super system and 3.73's. ill admit I've never dynod it but people with the same mods get right at or close to 400whp
Ohh I was thinking you had a 3v. I was thinking no way with those mods you have 400 to the wheel but with a 5.0 I can see that
 

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Well considering a full bolt on and supercharger 4.6 around the same horsepower as a stock 5.0. Also I have been told you have to build the motor over 400whp and I have 400whp with basic bolt in I say go for the 5.0
A supercharged 4.6 is NOT the same as a stock 5.0. Where do you even get this ludicrous idea from?

One of the cheapest SC out there pushes near 435-450 wheel safely on stock engine with no other mods.

My car at 340 WHP and 320 lb/ft with 4.10s is right up there with a stock 5.0.

If his car is paid off, it would be crazy to start over but hey, cars are like crack haha.

OP, what mods are you looking at that tally 20k?
 

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A supercharged 4.6 is NOT the same as a stock 5.0. Where do you even get this ludicrous idea from?

One of the cheapest SC out there pushes near 435-450 wheel safely on stock engine with no other mods.

My car at 340 WHP and 320 lb/ft with 4.10s is right up there with a stock 5.0.

If his car is paid off, it would be crazy to start over but hey, cars are like crack haha.

OP, what mods are you looking at that tally 20k?
Considering I can had headers and a boss intake and have around 450whp I can see your argument.
 

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I say c63 amg. Those cars are absolutely gorgeous and are beats!!

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I say c63 amg. Those cars are absolutely gorgeous and are beats!! But, with only $10k down those payments would be outrageous. So the 5.0 would probably be a better choice.
 

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A supercharged 4.6 is NOT the same as a stock 5.0. Where do you even get this ludicrous idea from?

One of the cheapest SC out there pushes near 435-450 wheel safely on stock engine with no other mods.

My car at 340 WHP and 320 lb/ft with 4.10s is right up there with a stock 5.0.

If his car is paid off, it would be crazy to start over but hey, cars are like crack haha.

OP, what mods are you looking at that tally 20k?
340 isn't even close to a stock 5.0 11-12 are pulling 360-390 stock. 2013 are pulling 390 stock. Don't get me wrong you have the correct # for your mods and that's great but it's not near a stock 5.0

OP.....JMO but I would go for the 5.0,I was right where you were at 2 yrs ago and got the 5.0. I had full bolt on and thought about FI but knew I would be limited at 450whp and if I popped the motor I would have to dump more money in her. I got the 5.0,slapped on some go fast goodies and I'm happy as can be.......for now.
 

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340 isn't even close to a stock 5.0 11-12 are pulling 360-390 stock. 2013 are pulling 390 stock. Don't get me wrong you have the correct # for your mods and that's great but it's not near a stock 5.0

OP.....JMO but I would go for the 5.0,I was right where you were at 2 yrs ago and got the 5.0. I had full bolt on and thought about FI but knew I would be limited at 450whp and if I popped the motor I would have to dump more money in her. I got the 5.0,slapped on some go fast goodies and I'm happy as can be.......for now.
That is NOT what was implying. I am running 12.6s. That is stock 5.0 territory. My point, if it wasn't obvious, was that his statement of numbers and its inability to compete with a stock 5.0 is wrong.

Addi tonally, with a stock gear, 360 WHP would have been easily attainable. 4.10s have been dyno proven to add significant drive train loss.
 

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You don't have stock gears,so why would that come into question? You have 340 with your 4.10 not..."If I had stock I would have 360".
 

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You don't have stock gears,so why would that come into question? You have 340 with your 4.10 not..."If I had stock I would have 360".
You brought HP into the equation. You misunderstood my comments, are you infallible and can not do so? I brought that into it just how you brought into it the stock WHP of an average 4V. Double standard?

My original comments was to the OP that you ABSOLUTELY do not need a SC, bolt on S197 to match a stock 5.0. That is fact. A stock 3V with a s/c will outdo a STOCK 4V in the power department and real words translations into ET.

The 5.0 is the better base to start with, no doubt, but you can save money and get just as fast if not faster for the same money with a 3V seeing as parts for a 4V are more money than their 3V counterparts for now.

To those saying the upgrade to 4V is cheaper, think about it this way. Total value versus accumulated value makes a huge difference for some people. Such as, it is cheaper to get a 4V in say it was 28k than a 3V that was 16k, as the total of the 4V is cheaper than 3V plus parts to become it's equal. BUT, people can mod over time, while the payment/price of the 4V is an immediate expense month to month.

In the end, they are both viable options for the same result depending on his intentions and budget.

There are 8 second 3Vs just as there are 8 second 4Vs and 8 second Honda Civics.
 

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You brought HP into the equation. You misunderstood my comments, are you infallible and can not do so? I brought that into it just how you brought into it the stock WHP of an average 4V. Double standard?

My original comments was to the OP that you ABSOLUTELY do not need a SC, bolt on S197 to match a stock 5.0. That is fact. A stock 3V with a s/c will outdo a STOCK 4V in the power department and real words translations into ET.

The 5.0 is the better base to start with, no doubt, but you can save money and get just as fast if not faster for the same money with a 3V seeing as parts for a 4V are more money than their 3V counterparts for now.

To those saying the upgrade to 4V is cheaper, think about it this way. Total value versus accumulated value makes a huge difference for some people. Such as, it is cheaper to get a 4V in say it was 28k than a 3V that was 16k, as the total of the 4V is cheaper than 3V plus parts to become it's equal. BUT, people can mod over time, while the payment/price of the 4V is an immediate expense month to month.

In the end, they are both viable options for the same result depending on his intentions and budget.

There are 8 second 3Vs just as there are 8 second 4Vs and 8 second Honda Civics.
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I also want to establish that I do not seek or enjoy arguments. I do enjoy heated debates since they push the parties involved to divulge more or seek sources etc. This results in good information for everyone. We are all here for a common goal. Learn and love the Mustang.
 
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