Ghetto Intake

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Sanguin

Discussion Starter · Jul 29, 2012

Yeah, I'm too cheap to pay $250 for an intake. So here is version one of my intake for my car. I'm going to be painting the chromed stuff black or green, depending on where it is in the intake. The red coupler will be changed to a black one later. I'll also make a custom air box for it. I just slapped it together earlier to get it done while I had some free time. Manuals have one additional air hose, it's a PCV line. I hid an elbow in the throttle body coupler on the bottom and just ran a hose to the PCV valve. If I could find a fitting that would let me use the factory quick connect fittings, I'd do that. Might try it later. Without further adieu, the $55 intake system...

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MyLittlePwny

· #101 · Apr 9, 2013

I did some homework and found that if you run breather filters on both covers, you create an open system. This prevents any unmetered air from entering the system, and works safely. Only using ONE breather filter essentially creates a suction, and is no bueno.

I might just return the breather filter, and connect the PCV valve to the intake. I dont feel like spending $20 on two breather filters for a PCV delete when there is no real benefit, and the smell of burning oil isnt exactly rosey.

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bucko said:
This arrangement looks great. Has anyone dyno'd it? I'd hate to read that while it looks great that it might have hurt performance, as it's drawing warm engine air rather than cool air that the stock setup is producing.

I agree, the placement of the filter seems quite a bit higher (relatively speaking) than the stock setup. Im tempted to throw on a 22* elbow to help the filter reach further down into the well.

Sanguin

Discussion Starter · #102 · Apr 9, 2013

My filter rests exactly where the factory one does. As for hot air... when the car gets to 10mph, it's all ambient. I've done these tests myself with my Grand Prix and reading IAT numbers. The only time you get hot air is sitting at a traffic light and it only lasts for a moment after start to accelerate. Impact is minimal.

rebeltx

· #103 · Apr 9, 2013

MyLittlePwny said:
....that sucks, I guess ill send it back and just wire the PCV in like you did? Can anyone else chime in on this? I figured if Charlie did it it was acceptable, but I guess he does some more bootleg stuff than I realized lol

I think you ordered the correct stuff but are a little mixed up on where everything is going... The breather filter will connect to the vacuum line. That's the soft rubber hose, if you go look under your hood you can trace that rubber line back to a fitting that sits against the drivers side fire wall. You will disconnect that rubber line from the fitting and replace it with the breather filter, essentially deleting that vacuum line from the CAI system.

You want to keep the PCV system in place for sure, I would not recommend just putting a filter on that as oil will come out of this vent and any air filter will just clog up.

What you need is that Spector kit with the drill bit and adapters. I think it is sold as a vacuum line kit but it will work for the PCV. Look at my pictures I posted earlier to see that adaptor I'm talking about. It's a black plastic piece. Your going to drill a hole in the aluminum tube with the provided bit, then inset the rubber gasket that is supplied in the kit as well to round out the hole and eliminate sharp edges. Now you just need to find the proper fitting from the kit, it will have many fittings to choose from.

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MyLittlePwny

· #104 · Apr 9, 2013

This confused me even more..everyone on the SVTP made it seem like the breather filters are used if you are going to do a PCV delete. They would plug into the holes where the PCV lines were run. However they said to only use breather filters on the driver side and lower intake, in order to make it a complete open system.

So I am not going to do a PCV delete, so breather filters wont be needed. Im going to use a PCV valve, gut it, and use that as housing for the PCV to tap into my intake.

Not sure why I need the spectre kit?

I have my filter, tube, couplers, MAF adapter, and PCV line. What does the kit have that I'm missing??

Dont confuse me Rebel!

rebeltx said:
I think you ordered the correct stuff but are a little mixed up on where everything is going... The breather filter will connect to the vacuum line. That's the soft rubber hose, if you go look under your hood you can trace that rubber line back to a fitting that sits against the drivers side fire wall. You will disconnect that rubber line from the fitting and replace it with the breather filter, essentially deleting that vacuum line from the CAI system.

You want to keep the PCV system in place for sure, I would not recommend just putting a filter on that as oil will come out of this vent and any air filter will just clog up.

What you need is that Spector kit with the drill bit and adapters. I think it is sold as a vacuum line kit but it will work for the PCV. Look at my pictures I posted earlier to see that adaptor I'm talking about. It's a black plastic piece. Your going to drill a hole in the aluminum tube with the provided bit, then inset the rubber gasket that is supplied in the kit as well to round out the hole and eliminate sharp edges. Now you just need to find the proper fitting from the kit, it will have many fittings to choose from.

rebeltx

· #105 · Apr 9, 2013

I found that adaptor kit I'm talking about online.... Spector part # 8711

It's on the Spector website under accessories

MyLittlePwny

· #106 · Apr 9, 2013

rebeltx said:
I found that adaptor kit I'm talking about online.... Spector part # 8711

It's on the Spector website under accessories

Ooh ok, that makes sense. I thought you were referring to one of the pre-made intake kits Spectre makes.

That kit will basically allow me to reconnect the PCV cleanly, I may grab it instead of gutting a stock PCV value.

rebeltx

· #107 · Apr 9, 2013

Spector kit just makes it so you don't need to buy a PCV and hollow it out. If you already bought a PCV to hollow out then you don't need that Spector kit. I thought you were still trying to figure out how to make that work...

You still need 1 small breather filter to remove that soft rubber line, this is separate from the PCV... You have ordered everything you need it seems like. I think it will make more sense once you get it

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MyLittlePwny

· #108 · Apr 9, 2013

rebeltx said:
Spector kit just makes it so you don't need to buy a PCV and hollow it out. If you already bought a PCV to hollow out then you don't need that Spector kit. I thought you were still trying to figure out how to make that work...

You still need 1 small breather filter to remove that soft rubber line, this is separate from the PCV... You have ordered everything you need it seems like. I think it will make more sense once you get it

Yea, I just ordered the kit and canceled the PCV valve. It was only a $2 difference and it'll look much cleaner.

Wheres the other soft rubber line coming/going from? I'm sure once I open the hood and get working it'll make sense, but I'm at work and this is better than what I should be doing haha

Sanguin

Discussion Starter · #109 · Apr 9, 2013

The other line is if you're an automatic. Us MT82 guys have one line, the pcv, and that's it.

MyLittlePwny

· #110 · Apr 9, 2013

Sanguin said:
The other line is if you're an automatic. Us MT82 guys have one line, the pcv, and that's it.

Thank you lol I was starting to really scratch my head on that one

TruChris

· #111 · Apr 9, 2013

So the pcv shoots oil? Sorry a little confused..

bucko

· #112 · Apr 9, 2013

Mist...that's why some put a catch can inline with the passenger side setup. Keeps this oil mist from contaminating the intake, whis is where Ford routes the tube.

TruChris

· #113 · Apr 9, 2013

bucko said:
Mist...that's why some put a catch can inline with the passenger side setup. Keeps this oil mist from contaminating the intake, whis is where Ford routes the tube.

So what is the actual use for it? Like whats the point

Charlie_santos

· #114 · Apr 9, 2013

bucko said:
Mist...that's why some put a catch can inline with the passenger side setup. Keeps this oil mist from contaminating the intake, whis is where Ford routes the tube.

But only the passenger side

TruChris

· #115 · Apr 9, 2013

Charlie_santos said:
But only the passenger side

I dont have a passenger side hose that goes to the intake i font think?

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Dont think

Charlie_santos

· #116 · Apr 9, 2013

TruChris said:
I dont have a passenger side hose that goes to the intake i font think?

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Dont think

Yes u do. It goes from the engine to the intake manifold itself

TruChris

· #117 · Apr 9, 2013

Oh so after the TB?

bucko

· #118 · Apr 9, 2013 (Edited)

There is a PCV valve in the head cover; as member ronnie has pointed out, the large 3 manufacturers got a PCV valve "certified" to use as a crankcase ventilation system a long time ago. It allows the gases from ring blowby to venilate through this valve, and back into the intake to be reburned. It also allows oil mist, which over time, can get onto the backsides of the valves, causing poor performance. I never thought much about this until I made a catch can. I now empty about a teaspoon of oil out of it every 3 to 4 weeks.

PCV Looks like this:

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TruChris

· #119 · Apr 9, 2013

So is charlie right about oil mist only on passenger?

Sanguin

Discussion Starter · #120 · Apr 9, 2013

Both do it, passenger is worst because it's got manifold vacuum on it. The other one doesn't have near as much vacuum pulling oil out.

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