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Going to be installing my steeda ultralite springs, koni str.t shocks/struts, and j&m camber plates this Sunday and had a few questions about the install.

First question is can i resuse the dust cover from the front dampeners? The new konis came with new ones in the rear, but not the front. Or are they not needed at all?

Second, is there anything else i need to transfer from the stock setup besides the rubber piece that goes on the spring?

And lastly, I got a nut for the top of the strut from Koni, and also one with my j&m camber plates. Which one should i use?

Anything else im forgetting please chime in. Sorry for the noobness, but i am a bit inexperienced when it comes to working on the suspension.

Ive searched everywhere for a good install guide, but the only ones i can find are all for individual parts, and not for doing everything at once. If anybody knows of a good walk through I would love to see it! Thanks in advance for the help!
 

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2011 Mustang GT 5.0 Ford Racing Lowering Springs Install - LatemodelRestoration.com Blog

Only note is since you're putting in a whole new spring/shock/strut and CC plate assembly you don't need to remove the strut nut when you're removing the old parts. Unless you want to remove the springs from the struts for your own reasons.
Thanks for the help! Unfortunately im going to have to take apart the spring/strut in order to get the stock dust cover and rubber piece for the spring off.
 

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Use the nut from Koni and also you will want the dust cover and the jounce bumpers off the old strut and maybe the old spring mount? I know the MM CC plates reuse these no idea with the J&M.
 

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Use the nut from Koni and also you will want the dust cover and the jounce bumpers off the old strut and maybe the old spring mount? I know the MM CC plates reuse these no idea with the J&M.
Awesome thanks!
 

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The very first question I have is which version did you buy? If you bought the dampers made for the 11+ then you have to reuse the strut mounts, if you got the 05-10 then you cannot reuse the stock dampers

This is a very important question to be able to answer before you start the install
 

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The very first question I have is which version did you buy? If you bought the dampers made for the 11+ then you have to reuse the strut mounts, if you got the 05-10 then you cannot reuse the stock dampers

This is a very important question to be able to answer before you start the install
I got the 05-10s, as well as the 05-10 j&m camber plate, which from my understanding will eliminate the need to reuse the stock, or gt500 strut mounts. Correct?
 

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Ah crap I misread that, I saw reuse dust covers and for some stupid reason read it as reuse strut mounts
Lol scared me for a sec. So im good to go then right? And i can just reuse the stock dust covers?
 

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Ill just need to reuse the stock spring isolators with the new camber plates correct? Is the 11+ isolator the same as the 05-10? Sorry for all the questions, just wanna make sure im 100% ready to go as this is my daily driver, and need the car for work monday morning lol.
 

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Lol scared me for a sec. So im good to go then right? And i can just reuse the stock dust covers?
actually I just looked at the install instructions. You are not actually. They are the same as the MM CC plates you have to use the stock spring isolator from the stock struts. Since you have the 05-10 J&M plates you HAVE to use the 05-10 strut spring isolators.

I ran into the same thing when I went to buy the MM CC plates and the 11-14 year ones were out of stock, I looked at buying the 05-10 year ones and using them. Couldn't find anywhere online that sold just the isolators by themselves. YOu had to buy the entire stock strut packages, strut spring everything as one unit put together.

Honestly it will be cheaper to return the J&M and get the MM CC plates for the 11-14 so you can reuse the stock isolator on the car.

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Ill just need to reuse the stock spring isolators with the new camber plates correct? Is the 11+ isolator the same as the 05-10? Sorry for all the questions, just wanna make sure im 100% ready to go as this is my daily driver, and need the car for work monday morning lol.
yes see above.
 

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actually I just looked at the install instructions. You are not actually. They are the same as the MM CC plates you have to use the stock spring isolator from the stock struts. Since you have the 05-10 J&M plates you HAVE to use the 05-10 strut spring isolators.

I ran into the same thing when I went to buy the MM CC plates and the 11-14 year ones were out of stock, I looked at buying the 05-10 year ones and using them. Couldn't find anywhere online that sold just the isolators by themselves. YOu had to buy the entire stock strut packages, strut spring everything as one unit put together.

Honestly it will be cheaper to return the J&M and get the MM CC plates for the 11-14 so you can reuse the stock isolator on the car.

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yes see above.
But I cant run the 11+ mount with the 05-10 struts... And you're 100% positive that the 11+ isolator is different then the 05-10? Ive talked to AM several times and they said i wouldn't need anything else. Ill try calling J&M tomorrow they are closed for the night now
 

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And if i only need the isolators can i just go up to my local dealer and get a set of 05-10 strut mounts? I would return them, but really want to get the install done this weekend, as my buddy took off work to help me, and i won't have time again for weeks. Im really kind of ticked off, i specifically asked the reps at American muscle SEVERAL times if anything else was required. And they all told me i had everything I needed. Now its friday, so obviously i won't be able to have anything here before the weekend
 

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But I cant run the 11+ mount with the 05-10 struts... And you're 100% positive that the 11+ isolator is different then the 05-10? Ive talked to AM several times and they said i wouldn't need anything else. Ill try calling J&M tomorrow they are closed for the night now
ok...so I have 05-10 Koni STR.T and I promise you, regardless of if you like the info, that I am right.

The isolators are very different. You definitely CAN run the 11-14 MM CC plates on 05-10 shocks and struts. That combo is on my car...right now.

I am not sure why AM told you this, but they are wrong. The J&M won't mount to the 11-14 spring isolators. I looked at them rather quickly and they looked kinda like the GT500 mounts that don't use the spring isolators that are built into the unit. I pulled up the install for the J&M and this is not the case and looking at the bottom they will not mount.

Straight off Maximum Motorsports website

Notes for 2011+ Mustangs
MM camber plates designed for the 2011+ Mustang are now available: Mm5CC-6.
The Mm5CC-1 camber plates will fit the 2011 chassis, but do not fit the 2011 struts or 2011 springs.
Struts designed for the 2005-2010 Mustang may be fitted to the 2011 chassis when installed along with the Mm5CC-6 camber plates and 2011 springs.
Springs designed for the 2005-2010 Mustang may be fitted to the 2011 chassis when installed along with the Mm5CC-1 camber plates and the upper spring isolator from a 2005-2010 stock upper strut mount and 2005-2010 struts.
 

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I have no clue but I'm jus gonna grow in here that nosympathy is one of the most intelligent mustang guys I've met on here. I'm just gonna say he's probably right in his info.

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Throw not grow sorry. Stupid autocorrect.
 

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ok...so I have 05-10 Koni STR.T and I promise you, regardless of if you like the info, that I am right.

The isolators are very different. You definitely CAN run the 11-14 MM CC plates on 05-10 shocks and struts. That combo is on my car...right now.

I am not sure why AM told you this, but they are wrong. The J&M won't mount to the 11-14 spring isolators. I looked at them rather quickly and they looked kinda like the GT500 mounts that don't use the spring isolators that are built into the unit. I pulled up the install for the J&M and this is not the case and looking at the bottom they will not mount.

Straight off Maximum Motorsports website
Thanks man, I appreciate it. It sucks to hear, but glad i found out now. Really ticked off at American muscle right now, as i stated above i literally talked to 3-4 people over the past couple weeks to double check everything. Got the same response every single time. Gonna see if maybe they can overnight me the correct parts. Hopefully Shane can help me out. I appreciate the help brother.
 

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Hate to keep bothering you, but what is the correct part # for the MM plates i need? And that will be all i need to buy to use the 05-10 konis AND the stock 11+ isolator correct?
 

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Thanks man, I appreciate it. It sucks to hear, but glad i found out now. Really ticked off at American muscle right now, as i stated above i literally talked to 3-4 people over the past couple weeks to double check everything. Got the same response every single time. Gonna see if maybe they can overnight me the correct parts. Hopefully Shane can help me out. I appreciate the help brother.
Yeah sorry if I seemed annoyed, I wasn't. I really hate giving you the bad news. Did you ask on here if they would work? I also am surprised with how much the AM guys know they got it wrong.

http://1.cdn.lib.americanmuscle.com/files/jm-4bolt-caster-camber-plate-0509-install.pdf

If you look at the install guide, look at step 10, that is the isolator off an 05-10 strut.

and then here is a 2011-2014 isolator.



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Hate to keep bothering you, but what is the correct part # for the MM plates i need? And that will be all i need to buy to use the 05-10 konis AND the stock 11+ isolator correct?
No no ask away. Like I said minus the springs you are talking the same setup as me and I have first hand experience with it.

Maximum Motorsports Mustang Caster/Camber Plates (11-14) MM5CC-6 - Free Shipping!

those are the exact ones I purchased. They come with spacers, if you look in the install guide that comes with them or is on Maximum Motorsports website, they tell you exactly how to place them for an 05-10 strut. They literally mount to the bearing plate on the 11-14 isolator and fit like a charm.
 

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Also if American muscle cant help me, would i be ok just going up to ford/napa/car quest wherever the heck i can find them tomorrow and just buy a set of 05-10 strut mounts since its only the isolators i need? I know the MM plates would be the better option, but really wanna get it done this weekend, as my buddy took off work to help.
 

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Also if American muscle cant help me, would i be ok just going up to ford/napa/car quest wherever the heck i can find them tomorrow and just buy a set of 05-10 strut mounts since its only the isolators i need? I know the MM plates would be the better option, but really wanna get it done this weekend, as my buddy took off work to help.
you can try, I didn't actually stop by a dealership and see if what I was told was true, but my understanding is they sell the strut, jounce bumpers, springs, isolator and strut mount as one entire assembled unit.

I also tried napa/advance auto, etc. and they didn't carry it.

BUT you can try and if you do find them, then yes. You just need the 05-10 isolator to use 05-10 strut mounts, minus the GT500 that doesn't use isolators.
 
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