[dobypaw3]

I was at my dealer to set up an oil change and tire rotation since it is way to cold and messy to do it myself. I also decided to ask them some questions about the MT-82 and told him I had problems with mine when it is cold but it shift great when warmed up and I discussed what some of us thought the problems are. I asked the service manager if it could be the synco's... He said if it were the syncro's there would be shifting issues all the time. I asked if it might be the clutch... He said the same thing as the syncro's. His reply was, it is a fluid issue and that is why Ford sent out a TSB. Ford will not let you know of this it is your job to check in and have the dealer take care of it. He also told me that the earlier MT-82 are the ones having most of the problems and it happens mostly in 1st thru 3rd. My dealer has changed the fluid in about a half dozen 11' and 12' Mustangs with the MT-82 and the customers have noticed a big difference. I can't wait to see what kind of difference the fluid change makes.

If you are have problems with notchiness hard to put in to gear or slight grinds as putting in gear go to your dealer and ask them to perform the TSB on your tranny. I can't remember but I think TSB stand for technical service bulletin. If you let it go you could end up with much bigger problems that may or may not be covered under warrantee. I also asked why Ford did not send out a recall. He said they do that when there is a safety concern. This problem is not a safety issue.

I asked about modifications. He told me any performance will void the warrantee or certain appearance modification will void it as well. I ask even a cold air intake only? He said any thing in the intake system including emission will be voided. I mention about Ford Racing equipment he told me they are warranted threw Ford Racing but the stock parts on the car are not. There are only 5 dealers in the USA that still do Ford Racing warrantee work anyone who does not live near one of the five dealers need to take it up with Ford Racing themselves. So it is a big risk to mod your car during the warrantee period. I'm thinking about going back to stock till the warrantee is up. Then it is full mod from intake to exhaust with driveshaft, gears, suspension and Procharger I have about three years to go.

 

[wheelman]

Warranty voided for appearance mods? Give me a break. This guy has his head up his azz.

 

[bucko]

Warranty voided for appearance mods? Give me a break. This guy has his head up his azz.

No, unfortunately he does not have his head up his azz.

It is up to the dealership as to how far they want to take the modifications and warranty claims. They are in the right to refuse any warranty claims due to the owner making modifications to the area in which a warranty claim is being made.

If an owner installs an exhaust system or cat backs, it could effect the exhaust system, but it would be a tough call if the dealership said it effected any other part of the car.

My suggestion is this: talk to your service manager at the dealership you want to use for warranty work. Many have reported here and on other Mustang sites that Ford dealerships "work with you" to perform warranty work, even on vehicles that have modifications.

I doubt however you'll have any luck getting serious engine warranty work done on a vehicle that has had a tune installed. Even if you flash it back to stock, they can now read the ECM and tell it's been altered. Gone are the days that you could flash it back, drive it for a day or two, and the evidence was removed.

To the OP, try another dealership for warranty work if you think your current one will be stuck to their rules. Dealerships get reimbursed for warranty work, but some will not do the work and make a claim for reimbursement if the vehicle has been modified; if they were caught, they may loose on their ability to perform and get reimbursed on warranty work. It's up to the dealer on how tough they want to be.

 

[wheelman]

You're right: it's up to the dealership what they submit to Ford and up to Ford what they'll cover. If he's telling you they'll refuse to submit something to Ford because you have quarter window louvers then yes, his head is in sun-dont-shine territory and the OP should find another dealer. Ive been through the warranty process more than once.

 

[SaintSancho]

http://www.impalaclub.com/naisso/magmoss.htm

they cannot void a warrantee for an aftermarket part that they cannot prove caused the problem. aka put on a splitter and your engine is ticking that's unrelated. now if you're having problems with gas mileage and you installed a cai or tuned then they can obviously void it

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but talk to your dealer I have a friend who was blowing fuses because of his improperly wired fogs. they realized after the second time bringing it in that it was his fault they replaced it for free and told him not to wire it the same or the next time it'd be on his dime

 

[wheelman]

but talk to your dealer I have a friend who was blowing fuses because of his improperly wired fogs. they realized after the second time bringing it in that it was his fault they replaced it for free and told him not to wire it the same or the next time it'd be on his dime

Theres a reasonable dealer and I wouldnt even have expected that much. Ive heard some dealers even let you tune but I wouldnt trust that, if I had engine issues, that Ford wouldnt have a problem with it.

 

[bucko]

My above post agree's with you; if the modification is not releated to the warranty claim, it will be difficult if not impossible for a dealer to refuse a warranty issue. I'd stay away from a tuner though for any engine related warranty claims though until your warranty is up, or you don't care to make engine warranty claims.

 

[SaintSancho]

the part about them being able to refuse kinda threw me sorry D:
yeah tuners are a bad idea unless you're throwing away your warrenty because its really easy to show how your ecu controls so many parts of the car

 

[BlackedStang]

Every dealer is different..the sales manager at my dealer didn't give two craps about my CAI, exhaust, tune. Still have my factory warranty.

 

[bucko]

If I recieved that statement (about exterior mods being warranty stoppers for all repairs), I'd be shopping for a new service department dealership for sure.

There are some out there that even turn their heads when tunes have been installed. On another Mustang forum site I visit, a service tech said they have done warranty work on engines that have had exhaust, tuner, and CAI mods. He mentioned that it was up to the techs discression to decide if a mod created the problem.

Some work with you; others follow the book specifically. Find one that you're happy with.

 

[Deibo]

Are the 13 models having the same problems?

 

[SaintSancho]

Mines not too bad. then again I live in SoFlo so its cold when it's 70 here.

 

[ebgonzalez1]

I was at my dealer to set up an oil change and tire rotation since it is way to cold and messy to do it myself. I also decided to ask them some questions about the MT-82 and told him I had problems with mine when it is cold but it shift great when warmed up and I discussed what some of us thought the problems are. I asked the service manager if it could be the synco's... He said if it were the syncro's there would be shifting issues all the time. I asked if it might be the clutch... He said the same thing as the syncro's. His reply was, it is a fluid issue and that is why Ford sent out a TSB. Ford will not let you know of this it is your job to check in and have the dealer take care of it. He also told me that the earlier MT-82 are the ones having most of the problems and it happens mostly in 1st thru 3rd. My dealer has changed the fluid in about a half dozen 11' and 12' Mustangs with the MT-82 and the customers have noticed a big difference. I can't wait to see what kind of difference the fluid change makes.

If you are have problems with notchiness hard to put in to gear or slight grinds as putting in gear go to your dealer and ask them to perform the TSB on your tranny. I can't remember but I think TSB stand for technical service bulletin. If you let it go you could end up with much bigger problems that may or may not be covered under warrantee. I also asked why Ford did not send out a recall. He said they do that when there is a safety concern. This problem is not a safety issue.

I asked about modifications. He told me any performance will void the warrantee or certain appearance modification will void it as well. I ask even a cold air intake only? He said any thing in the intake system including emission will be voided. I mention about Ford Racing equipment he told me they are warranted threw Ford Racing but the stock parts on the car are not. There are only 5 dealers in the USA that still do Ford Racing warrantee work anyone who does not live near one of the five dealers need to take it up with Ford Racing themselves. So it is a big risk to mod your car during the warrantee period. I'm thinking about going back to stock till the warrantee is up. Then it is full mod from intake to exhaust with driveshaft, gears, suspension and Procharger I have about three years to go.

It is the synchronizers... the techs at ford dont know **** I have mine at the shop getting a new transmission I have 5k miles the reason why we can still shift is because they are new once you get pass couple thousand miles like 25 you won't be able to shift at all it happend to others its just gonna grt worst. They disassembled my transmission I ask what was wrong they said they didnt know check out my thread I made one for the transmission. Fluid aint gonna cause this but it is a problem. I wouldn't trust the fluid change because they checked my fluid and it was full of metal shreds thats long term damage fluid change is an easy cheap way to shut complainers out...

 

[dobypaw3]

Warranty voided for appearance mods? Give me a break. This guy has his head up his azz.

Suspension lower the appearance if your car. Think about it!!!

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It is the synchronizers... the techs at ford dont know **** I have mine at the shop getting a new transmission I have 5k miles the reason why we can still shift is because they are new once you get pass couple thousand miles like 25 you won't be able to shift at all it happend to others its just gonna grt worst. They disassembled my transmission I ask what was wrong they said they didnt know check out my thread I made one for the transmission. Fluid aint gonna cause this but it is a problem. I wouldn't trust the fluid change because they checked my fluid and it was full of metal shreds thats long term damage fluid change is an easy cheap way to shut complainers out...

I have absolutely no problems when the tranny is warm or in above freezing weather... Did you ever think yours made it threw defects with bad part/parts remember it is made in china!!! FYI 20,000 miles on my Stang in 10 months this is it's first winter. I an pleased with my synchronizers.

 

[ebgonzalez1]

Suspension lower the appearance if your car. Think about it!!!

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I have absolutely no problems when the tranny is warm or in above freezing weather... Did you ever think yours made it threw defects with bad part/parts remember it is made in china!!!

The problem is more apparent when In cold weather. I live in south texas 90-110 degree weather and I would experience it. All it is cheap components inside the transmission yeha I kbow I was made in china but you cannot be biased and blame it on that. Ford also changed the fluid because they experience noise when testing the transmissions. They changed it to what we had originally then problems occurd and they changed it again. I am a ford guy always have beeb but this is just poor quality parts not poor assembly and ford knew that.

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Suspension lower the appearance if your car. Think about it!!!

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I have absolutely no problems when the tranny is warm or in above freezing weather... Did you ever think yours made it threw defects with bad part/parts remember it is made in china!!! FYI 20,000 miles on my Stang in 10 months this is it's first winter. I an pleased with my synchronizers.

It is hit and miss thats why there's no recal remember some do have problems. But the people that do have minor problems in the beginning will indeed see more down the road if you were lucky enough to not have any from the start youll will probably won't have any problems at all

 

[dobypaw3]

Warranty voided for appearance mods? Give me a break. This guy has his head up his azz.

Yes some will not all, but some will like suspension lowers the appearance of the car.

 

[wheelman]

Suspension lower the appearance if your car. Think about it!!!.

Uh, lowering your car is more than an appearance mod. Think about it.

Yes some will not all, but some will like suspension lowers the appearance of the car.

EDIT: You answered me twice & Im still not sure where youre headed...?

 

[MrMike]

Are the 13 models having the same problems?

13's have the new fluid in them. The tsb is for the 11-12 models. I'm trying a new shifter bracket next month, the new barton one, because I have that notchy 1st 2nd problem also. The stock bracket is of very poor quality. You canYouTube "mt-82 stock shifter bracket" to see the how much it could effect your shifting.

 

[Deibo]

13's have the new fluid in them. The tsb is for the 11-12 models. I'm trying a new shifter bracket next month, the new barton one, because I have that notchy 1st 2nd problem also. The stock bracket is of very poor quality. You canYouTube "mt-82 stock shifter bracket" to see the how much it could effect your shifting.

I was thinking about going with the MGW shifter. But I don't have my car yet. It's waiting for me in Texas.

 

[MrMike]

I was thinking about going with the MGW shifter. But I don't have my car yet. It's waiting for me in Texas.

I was looking a swapping out the shifter also, but I think our shifter is fine imo. Shorter throws would be nice though.