Too late for SC???

I don't feel like it is, cars now a days are built to last... Unless your has been Beaton the entire 38k I would think you would be fine.... Unless you do the super charger and run the hell out of it...

The motor was designed to hold up to superchargers. 38k is nothing.

I didn't think mileage was a factor for a sc. I have a 2011 gt that i was planning on super charging later down the line. Anyone on here have any input on this?

Mok said:

I didn't think mileage was a factor for a sc. I have a 2011 gt that i was planning on super charging later down the line. Anyone on here have any input on this?

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http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/...reaks_in_2005_2011_ford_mustangs/viewall.html

Here you go. I think if you stay conservative on boost your good.

rick9550 said:

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/general/hrdp_1104_what_breaks_in_2005_2011_ford_mustangs/viewall.html

Here you go. I think if you stay conservative on boost your good.

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Thanks, this was really informative.

In fairness, that article screams conjecture. Everything is third party, no experience. Parts breaking at 600 but not much heard here. That was written April 2011, and here we are feb 2013.

I may simply be justifying my next mod, but I think the last 1.5 years debunked these suppositions

This engine is not "designed for a supercharger", let's get that straight. No OEM factory builds a supercharger engine with 11 to 1 compression and cast pistons like this. It handles it because it's well-designed and engineered and has good aftermarket engine management and tuning.

I didn't FI my last 5.0 until it had about 120,000 miles on it and, I'd been running nitrous up to that point. Sold that with every hole blowing 190 compression and leakdown under 5%. 38,000 miles is nothing and I wouldn't give it a second thought, if you want to go that way.

5LHO said:

This engine is not "designed for a supercharger", let's get that straight. No OEM factory builds a supercharger engine with 11 to 1 compression and cast pistons like this. It handles it because it's well-designed and engineered and has good aftermarket engine management and tuning.

I didn't FI my last 5.0 until it had about 120,000 miles on it and, I'd been running nitrous up to that point. Sold that with every hole blowing 190 compression and leakdown under 5%. 38,000 miles is nothing and I wouldn't give it a second thought, if you want to go that way.

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Designed for a supercharger may have been a bit of an extreme statement, but the motor was very much "over engineered" as well as mildly future proofed. I read an article somewhere directly from the coyote engineers talking about how they did build the motor with boost in mind.

Yep, not too many clueless idiots in Ford's engine dep't. They know damn well somebody's going to put a blower on a Mustang in the first 5 seconds after release.

However, the engine is designed to make money, not HP. 99% of Mustangs on the road won't see boost and have customers that want reliable, comfortable power so, that's where the design emphasis goes, no matter what.

No OEM is going to purpose-build a proper SC-prepared engine. That's just pissing money down the drain in HD parts and tooling that you won't see back at deal-signing. They will design an engine that will easily live to 100,000+ miles plus without pissing its owners' off by breaking. This is the margin your cutting into when you mod.

I wouldnt go sc without forged internals, personally. My mantra is do it right the first time.

GrabberBlue5.0 said:

Designed for a supercharger may have been a bit of an extreme statement, but the motor was very much "over engineered" as well as mildly future proofed. I read an article somewhere directly from the coyote engineers talking about how they did build the motor with boost in mind.

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Bost in mind is what I should have said. The article is in the Mustang 5.0 and Fast Fords magazine, March 2010.

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Read it 5LHO, then get back to us.

Eco boost was in mind. You could argue that they DID build it to handle boost

It's never to late to supercharge, know lots of guys bolting on superchargers to 70-90k miles 4.6 cars. I won't be able to supercharge until around 50k miles or so and given the chance I will jump at it

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Bost in mind is what I should have said. The article is in the Mustang 5.0 and Fast Fords magazine, March 2010.

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Read it 5LHO, then get back to us.

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Really? Think hard about what you're saying went on inside Ford, if what you say is true: "I know, let's build an engine that will happily stand 700 hp of supercharger tacked on without complaint, despite the fact only the tiniest fraction of the buying public will ever use it, and btw, let's make sure it meets all government standards for emissions and fuel economy at the same time and have a per-unit cost supportable with a base price car under 30K." No problem there....

Giving a motor a little durability headroom is pretty standard for all things these days, as nobody will tolerate exploding new parts but, it's a reach and certainly more bumf than substance to make the claim the car is "built for supercharging".

Just read that article. Seems the engineers build the motor for FI, but specifically stated the rods could not handle it.

I hadn't even considered the rods (based on feedback from this forum and two local shops). Anyone know the cost involved in getting proper rods?

If you're ripping your engine open to replace rods it would make much more sense to just do it all.

SolidRRaxle said:

Just read that article. Seems the engineers build the motor for FI, but specifically stated the rods could not handle it.

I hadn't even considered the rods (based on feedback from this forum and two local shops). Anyone know the cost involved in getting proper rods?

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They said the rods are the weakest link, not that they can't handle it.

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If you're ripping your engine open to replace rods it would make much more sense to just do it all.

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Well sheeeit then. I give up, just gonna buy a big ol spoiler and some neon lights to line the underside.

Lol, I read that article too but dont recall the specifics. Were they just talking about the block in general? Because its the same in the Boss but with forged internals, a different IM and some other tweaks. Id think the Boss is ready for sc from the factory so thinking that, for a GT, you'd just need the internals to fair almost as well.